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Antibody results will soon be added..

  • Total # of active cases: 7 (yesterday: 6)
  • Total # of positive cases: 66 (yesterday: 65)
  • Total recoveries: 56 (no change since yesterday)
  • Total # of deaths: 3 (no change since yesterday)
  • Total # people tested: 1,823 (yesterday: 1,772)
  • Total # of negative results: 1,682 (yesterday: 1,651)
  • Pending results: 69 (yesterday: 50)
  • Total # of people in precautionary quarantine: 64 (yesterday: 46)
  • Total # of people in mandatory isolation/quarantine: 68 (yesterday: 60)
  • Total completed/released from monitoring: 1,878 (yesterday: 1,849)
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This is dumb, you can basically say anyone died from COVID 19 complications. I would like if they stuck to confirmed laboratory cases.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/us-data/

Following new CDC guidelines: "As of April 14, 2020, CDC case counts and death counts include both confirmed and probable cases and deaths. This change was made to reflect an interim COVID-19 position statement issued by the Council for State and Territorial Epidemiologists on April 5, 2020. The position statement included a case definition and made COVID-19 a nationally notifiable disease.

A confirmed case or death is defined by meeting confirmatory laboratory evidence for COVID-19. A probable case or death is defined by i) meeting clinical criteria AND epidemiologic evidence with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID-19; or ii) meeting presumptive laboratory evidence AND either clinical criteria OR epidemiologic evidence; or iii) meeting vital records criteria with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID19" [source]

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Major League Baseball expects to offer a return-to-play proposal to the MLB Players Association within a week as teams have begun to encourage players to prepare for a "spring" training that could begin in mid-June and a season that would start in early July, sources familiar with the discussions told ESPN.

While a significant number of hurdles remain and some industry leaders believe June and July return dates are optimistic, the approval of ownership on a plan and dialogue about specifics with the union would mark two vital steps in baseball's return from a season so far delayed six weeks by the coronavirus.

General managers and managers from at least a dozen teams have reached out to players and suggested they ramp up baseball activities, executives, players and agents familiar with the conversations told ESPN. Some teams have suggested players prepare for a spring training that would begin as early as June 10 and a season that would begin July 1, dates first suggested publicly by former player Trevor Plouffe. Other teams, sources said, are being more general in their timetables, understanding the complications that hard dates can cause and wanting instead to nudge players toward being in game shape.

Already dozens of players are working out at team facilities around the country, according to sources, and the possibility of holding a three- to four-week spring training at teams' home stadiums appeals to a number of stakeholders. After entertaining the ideas of quarantining all players in Arizona or using three- or five-city hubs to hold games, there is momentum toward the league trying to play games in home stadiums, sources said.

The complications could be manifold, whether due to a coronavirus breakout in a city or the risk added by traveling, but the logistical concerns aren't nearly as acute as the building of hubs would be. Three player representatives, who have been sending updates to the union's rank-and-file, believe the union would be more receptive to such a plan because players could spend half their games at home and with families.

This does not mean the league's proposal to the players' association will be met with open arms. Owners have pushed the league to ask players to take a pay cut from their salaries because of cratering revenues exacerbated by no fans being allowed in stadiums upon any return. In an agreement between the league and union, players agreed to be paid a prorated portion of their salaries based on games played, which the MLBPA argues covers any lessening of salary players should take.

The potential snags go well beyond money. Returning to play in this environment poses a risk to players -- one they hope is allayed as much as possible in the league's proposal. Multiple players have reached out to the union asking what would happen if they opted not to play in 2020 out of fear for their health or a desire to remain with their families during the coronavirus pandemic, sources told ESPN. Further, a more direct question was asked by a player during a Zoom call with Cleveland Indians players that was first reported by The Athletic: What happens if we come back and a player tests positive?

The league's answer to that question, and others, is eagerly anticipated by players whose sense of optimism has grown in the past week. At the same time, multiple officials and players have expressed reservation about negotiating an agreement as the country reopens, fearful that by the time the beginning of June rolls around, the climate for the game to return may not be as welcoming.

The unknown, sources said, is part of the motivator to start the negotiation process within a week. Not only does MLB need approval from owners and players to start a season, officials from the White House and top health officials expect to be consulted and give the go-ahead, sources said. Already MLB has been in contact with federal and state officials seeking guidance as it maneuvers toward a new opening day.

The look of the game and season will be determined in any agreement between the league and union. Multiple executives have suggested that as many as 50 players will be available for teams to use, and that they'll have active rosters of up to 30 players each game. The length of the season, should it start in July, could be between 80 and 100 games.

Any agreement is likely to include contingency plans going forward, sources said. Some officials fear a so-called second wave of coronavirus cases that some health officials have forecast and believe that instead of planning to play into late November, with an expanded playoff system, MLB would be better suited playing a shorter season that gives the league a greater likelihood to avoid potential complications.

The fallout from COVID-19 already has not just erased a large portion of the 2020 season, it has left front offices fearful of the immediate and long-term future. Scouting directors are waiting on the official word but told ESPN they expect the MLB draft in June to be five rounds instead of the standard 40. Further, while most teams have guaranteed employees pay through the end of May, the delay of baseball beyond July could precipitate a wave of furloughs and layoffs, according to sources.

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41 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

This is dumb, you can basically say anyone died from COVID 19 complications. I would like if they stuck to confirmed laboratory cases.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/us-data/

Following new CDC guidelines: "As of April 14, 2020, CDC case counts and death counts include both confirmed and probable cases and deaths. This change was made to reflect an interim COVID-19 position statement issued by the Council for State and Territorial Epidemiologists on April 5, 2020. The position statement included a case definition and made COVID-19 a nationally notifiable disease.

A confirmed case or death is defined by meeting confirmatory laboratory evidence for COVID-19. A probable case or death is defined by i) meeting clinical criteria AND epidemiologic evidence with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID-19; or ii) meeting presumptive laboratory evidence AND either clinical criteria OR epidemiologic evidence; or iii) meeting vital records criteria with no confirmatory laboratory testing performed for COVID19" [source]

They are reported separately and NYC is the only Place in NYS using probable deaths. The 323 deaths in Erie County are all confirmed. 

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Major League Baseball expects to offer a return-to-play proposal to the MLB Players Association within a week as teams have begun to encourage players to prepare for a "spring" training that could begin in mid-June and a season that would start in early July, sources familiar with the discussions told ESPN.

While a significant number of hurdles remain and some industry leaders believe June and July return dates are optimistic, the approval of ownership on a plan and dialogue about specifics with the union would mark two vital steps in baseball's return from a season so far delayed six weeks by the coronavirus.

General managers and managers from at least a dozen teams have reached out to players and suggested they ramp up baseball activities, executives, players and agents familiar with the conversations told ESPN. Some teams have suggested players prepare for a spring training that would begin as early as June 10 and a season that would begin July 1, dates first suggested publicly by former player Trevor Plouffe. Other teams, sources said, are being more general in their timetables, understanding the complications that hard dates can cause and wanting instead to nudge players toward being in game shape.

Already dozens of players are working out at team facilities around the country, according to sources, and the possibility of holding a three- to four-week spring training at teams' home stadiums appeals to a number of stakeholders. After entertaining the ideas of quarantining all players in Arizona or using three- or five-city hubs to hold games, there is momentum toward the league trying to play games in home stadiums, sources said.

The complications could be manifold, whether due to a coronavirus breakout in a city or the risk added by traveling, but the logistical concerns aren't nearly as acute as the building of hubs would be. Three player representatives, who have been sending updates to the union's rank-and-file, believe the union would be more receptive to such a plan because players could spend half their games at home and with families.

This does not mean the league's proposal to the players' association will be met with open arms. Owners have pushed the league to ask players to take a pay cut from their salaries because of cratering revenues exacerbated by no fans being allowed in stadiums upon any return. In an agreement between the league and union, players agreed to be paid a prorated portion of their salaries based on games played, which the MLBPA argues covers any lessening of salary players should take.

The potential snags go well beyond money. Returning to play in this environment poses a risk to players -- one they hope is allayed as much as possible in the league's proposal. Multiple players have reached out to the union asking what would happen if they opted not to play in 2020 out of fear for their health or a desire to remain with their families during the coronavirus pandemic, sources told ESPN. Further, a more direct question was asked by a player during a Zoom call with Cleveland Indians players that was first reported by The Athletic: What happens if we come back and a player tests positive?

The league's answer to that question, and others, is eagerly anticipated by players whose sense of optimism has grown in the past week. At the same time, multiple officials and players have expressed reservation about negotiating an agreement as the country reopens, fearful that by the time the beginning of June rolls around, the climate for the game to return may not be as welcoming.

The unknown, sources said, is part of the motivator to start the negotiation process within a week. Not only does MLB need approval from owners and players to start a season, officials from the White House and top health officials expect to be consulted and give the go-ahead, sources said. Already MLB has been in contact with federal and state officials seeking guidance as it maneuvers toward a new opening day.

The look of the game and season will be determined in any agreement between the league and union. Multiple executives have suggested that as many as 50 players will be available for teams to use, and that they'll have active rosters of up to 30 players each game. The length of the season, should it start in July, could be between 80 and 100 games.

Any agreement is likely to include contingency plans going forward, sources said. Some officials fear a so-called second wave of coronavirus cases that some health officials have forecast and believe that instead of planning to play into late November, with an expanded playoff system, MLB would be better suited playing a shorter season that gives the league a greater likelihood to avoid potential complications.

The fallout from COVID-19 already has not just erased a large portion of the 2020 season, it has left front offices fearful of the immediate and long-term future. Scouting directors are waiting on the official word but told ESPN they expect the MLB draft in June to be five rounds instead of the standard 40. Further, while most teams have guaranteed employees pay through the end of May, the delay of baseball beyond July could precipitate a wave of furloughs and layoffs, according to sources.

The ominous signs that are in front of us are real and we could very well be entering an era of no turning back. If this continues, with the bullshit political sparring only ramping up, we will be damaging, potentially forever, the world we once new only 2 months ago. The possibilities exist that we will never get back to any thing that resembles normal in any walk of life. I'm not scared of what that holds but it be lying if I didn't say I wasn't nervous how many Americans will never be whole after this, whenever that is.

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28 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

Accoding to that website it seems CDC is saying all states should count probable deaths in official count starting April 14th?

I know I agree but the NYS official death count not including probables is 20597 and the NYC probable count is 5359 for a total of 25,956 which is the number being reported by World O Meters. 
 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

 

Mark Poloncarz and ECDOH also have stated numerous times they are not counting presumed deaths in their count right now only confirmed which is what I believe the rest of NYS is also doing outside of NYC. 

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35 minutes ago, Thinksnow18 said:

The ominous signs that are in front of us are real and we could very well be entering an era of no turning back. If this continues, with the bullshit political sparring only ramping up, we will be damaging, potentially forever, the world we once new only 2 months ago. The possibilities exist that we will never get back to any thing that resembles normal in any walk of life. I'm not scared of what that holds but it be lying if I didn't say I wasn't nervous how many Americans will never be whole after this, whenever that is.

This virus is still very new. Eventually there will be treatments, a vaccine, and herd immunity.   There is no reason to think this will persist forever without a solution.  The world is going to be all out of whack for a good year or so but things will settle out. 

When people get sick years from now they’ll say oh yeah I had covid a few weeks back just like we talk about strep throat, the flu, noro virus, colds, sinus infections. It will just be another germ that you occasionally get.  

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9 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

Does anyone know about traveling in the USA if there are states that require a 14 day quarantine to go into the state or back home? I know Maine has one? Any website to track this? 

Hawaii has a 14 day stay in your hotel quarantine 

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NY Governor Andrew Cuomo said in today briefing that NY death for May 6th (yesterday) was 231 which was improving. He's a BUST! According to worldometer (where CDC update the reports) shows more than 700+ people died in NY yesterday and 400+ today so far. Why would he lie something like this - not cool. 

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NY Governor Andrew Cuomo said in today briefing that NY death for May 6th (yesterday) was 231 which was improving. He's a BUST! According to worldometer (where CDC update the reports) shows more than 700+ people died in NY yesterday and 400+ today so far. Why would he lie something like this - not cool. 

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Why are you jumping to conclusions and calling Gov. Cuomo a bust and claim that he is lying? If you did some research you would find that the NYS death figures do not include probable Covid-19 deaths which are included in the Worldometer figures. It almost seems like you are taking these statistics personally.

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