schoeppeya Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, OSUmetstud said: Sure. I feel like the county would have a real tough time to exert its influence over a NFL team in that way. The NFLPA would probably complain and take them to court. I dont know the rules and the legal but requiring a vaccine to play for the Bills (especially under an EUA) might be a bit different than requiring one for attending a game. Yeah that’s definitely getting into legal stuff above my head. You’d think if they could require a vaccine for entry to the stadium, they could apply that to players? ETA: Could the bills sue the county for revenue they lose as well? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, OSUmetstud said: Sure. I feel like the county would have a real tough time trying to exert its influence over a NFL team in that way. The NFLPA would probably complain and take them to court. I dont know the rules and the legal but requiring a vaccine to play for the Bills (especially under an EUA) might be a bit different than requiring one for attending a game. To be clear, my stance is a moral one. Unfortunately, I'm well aware it's legally and politically impalpable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 minute ago, schoeppeya said: Yeah that’s definitely getting into legal stuff above my head. You’d think if they could require a vaccine for entry to the stadium, they could apply that to players? Maybe. But the players are required to be there and are employed by the NFL. The fans are not. I'm just guessing it would fall under a different legal standard. I was listening to a medical ethics dude the other day that suggested an employer requiring vaccines for employees would be really tough under an EUA and would be a big court battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Powerball said: To be clear, my stance is a moral one. Unfortunately, I'm well aware it's legally and politically impalpable. Definitely fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, OSUmetstud said: Definitely fair. That said, I do agree with what someone else said earlier. While forcing NFL players to get vaccinated may be difficult at best, in fairness, fans should also be given the option to enter the stadium with a negative COVID test if they choose not to get vaccinated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoeppeya Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 8 minutes ago, Powerball said: That said, I do agree with what someone else said earlier. While forcing NFL players to get vaccinated may be difficult at best, in fairness, fans should also be given the option to enter the stadium with a negative COVID test if they choose not to get vaccinated. I think a lot of frustrations with restrictions are because they are blanketed like this. There’s no “common sense” reason to not allow covid negative people in the stadium with a negative test. Could have made people start doing that a long time ago and still had some events going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorePunch Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, schoeppeya said: I think a lot of frustrations with restrictions are because they are blanketed like this. There’s no “common sense” reason to not allow covid negative people in the stadium with a negative test. Could have made people start doing that a long time ago and still had some events going on. Whats the end game? Zero Covid cases? You have to assume that things ‘should’ be improved by the start of football. Vaccination rates should be well above 60%. There is an end game, there has to be. What is it? People are at their ends with all of this, especially the vaccinated. That number of people gets even larger every day. I see these restrictions being met with pushback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Need to fire Fauci folks. This cancellation of the Johnson and Johnson shot is the last straw. Pure fear game with that guy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Study came out in the last few days that signified no change to a drop in suicide during covid. Contrary to belief of some of those who want to force things open too soon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, nwohweather said: Need to fire Fauci folks. This cancellation of the Johnson and Johnson shot is the last straw. Pure fear game with that guy Fauci is not part of the fda lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, nwohweather said: Need to fire Fauci folks. This cancellation of the Johnson and Johnson shot is the last straw. Pure fear game with that guy Wasn't his decision to cancel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, nwohweather said: Need to fire Fauci folks. This cancellation of the Johnson and Johnson shot is the last straw. Pure fear game with that guy Wrong. 5 minutes ago, OSUmetstud said: Fauci is not part of the fda lol. Nor the CDC, lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Just now, Powerball said: Nor the CDC, lol... Indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 1 hour ago, OSUmetstud said: It's an erie county rule not a bills rule. I think it eventually gets changed to negative test/vaccine. The uprising has been insane today. I'd say about 50% of my friends are not getting the vaccine and are pretty adamant on it. I do respect their individual freedom. I can see both sides to this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Really sucks with what happened with J&J. Does nothing but drag this out longer than it should Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Just now, BuffaloWeather said: I think it eventually gets changed to negative test/vaccine. The uprising has been insane today. I'd say about 50% of my friends are not getting the vaccine and are pretty adamant on it. I do respect their individual freedom. I can see both sides to this. You live in hamburg. I'm not terribly surprised lol. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Fauci is not part of the fda lol. He came on NBC News tonight with Lester Holt and said he supports this decision 100% and that we need to investigate before anymore doses of this vaccine are administered 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, nwohweather said: He came on NBC News tonight with Lester Holt and said he supports this decision 100% and that we need to investigate before anymore doses of this vaccine are administered Okay. So he supports the other government agencies that made the decision. Why is this a problem? It's exactly how the system is supposed to work. This is why they are constantly monitoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 The CDC and FDA are doing the job they were established to perform by investigating a product that people are using to ensure it's as safe as possible. I don't see the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoeppeya Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 14 minutes ago, CorePunch said: Whats the end game? Zero Covid cases? You have to assume that things ‘should’ be improved by the start of football. Vaccination rates should be well above 60%. There is an end game, there has to be. What is it? People are at their ends with all of this, especially the vaccinated. That number of people gets even larger every day. I see these restrictions being met with pushback. I agree with all of this man. The point of my post was to say there’s things we could have been doing like this the whole time. It’s like places cancelling fall football last spring and then people proved you could play football by testing people before games. What’re the bills gonna do if Covid cases have dropped to background noise in the fall? Still require this rule because the decided to make a stand six months ahead of time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, OSUmetstud said: You live in hamburg. I'm not terribly surprised lol. It's pretty bad. My instagram and facebook pages are on fire with online protests on requiring a vaccine for bills game lol. I think I'm going to stay out of those, people are mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Another big jump in hospitalizations today of 1054. Now up to 41,152 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 1 minute ago, BuffaloWeather said: It's pretty bad. My instagram and facebook pages are on fire with online protests on requiring a vaccine for bills game lol. I think I'm going to stay out of those, people are mad. I guess we'll see who the real bills fans are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Okay. So he supports the other government agencies who made the decision. Why is this a problem? It's exactly how the system is supposed to work. This is why they are constantly monitoring. Because it’s a 1 in 1 million chance of getting blood clots while we still have hundreds dying of this pandemic daily 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Just now, nwohweather said: Because it’s a 1 in 1 million chance of getting blood clots while we still have hundreds dying of this pandemic daily We need to keep giving this vaccine. The benefits still far far outweigh the risk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Just now, nwohweather said: Because it’s a 1 in 1 million chance of getting blood clots while we still have hundreds dying of this pandemic daily I get it. It's frustrating. There's 2 other vaccines with ample supply that are currently used. Theyre upholding their commitment to safety. You and I both know there's almost no appetite for poor vaccine outcomes in the US. I hope they look for a few day make recommendations and get back to business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoeppeya Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 The people who are mad about pulling the vaccine are not the people who I thought would be mad about pulling the vaccine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, StormfanaticInd said: Another big jump in hospitalizations today of 1054. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 A personal story I just got from my wife in regards to the J&J vaccine. My wifes friends friend from church got the J&J on Friday. She was dizzy over the weekend. She passed out and went to the ER. She had a blood clot in her brain, the clot is now draining and is in stable condition. Pretty scary stuff...I'd stick with Moderna/Pfizer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fujiwara79 Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 just wait until the cruise lines require vaccinations. the anti-vaxxers are going to be in quite a conundrum. they love those cheap $500 all-you-can-eat carribean cruises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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