schoeppeya Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 3 hours ago, Malacka11 said: It's true though. Infectious diseases literally evolve to infect you -to use your body as a host- and you think eating your veggies will stop a severe disease from rocking your world? Look, my statement was a bit hyperbolized. Of course, being healthy is a must. Obviously, fat people will die at far greater rates from most diseases. But there comes a certain point on the healthiness scale, where no matter how much good food you eat, it won't help you any more. Your immune system is either impaired, or it isn't. And sure, exercise will lead to greater amounts of immune factors and all that, but all the same, it irks me when people say that eating right and being healthy will save you. It won't. But evidence has shown that for a lot of people it will, right? Not just diet and exercise, but the benefits of that, considered obesity is the number one comorbidity of covid? I’m not saying people should exercise instead of getting the vaccine. But there would be a lot less dead people from Covid in the western world if there a lot less fat people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, winterwx21 said: Let me also say that I find it pretty funny that Bills QB Josh Allen says he might not want a vaccine and doesn't believe in any kind of vaccine mandate, yet a vaccine mandate is going to be in place for Bills fans. I'm sure he's not too happy about this. Now that's something I have an issue with. Two different sets of rules... Hopefully, if the fans are mandated to be vaccinated, the players are as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malacka11 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, schoeppeya said: But evidence has shown that for a lot of people it will, right? Not just diet and exercise, but the benefits of that, considered obesity is the number one comorbidity of covid? I’m not saying people should exercise instead of getting the vaccine. But there would be a lot less dead people from Covid in the western world if there a lot less fat people. I think I'm conveying my point very poorly here. I agree that being a healthy weight will definitely help you out. But when people say that eating healthy and exercising are the equivalent of medical healthcare -as in, you can simply rely on eating and exercising to stave off diseases- that's just stupid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, Powerball said: Now that's something I have an issue with. Two different sets of rules... Hopefully, if the fans are mandated to be vaccinated, the players are as well. The NFL has already said that players will not be mandated to get the vaccine. So what Buffalo is doing is very unfair. They should at least give the option of providing a negative test for fans that are not vaccinated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, winterwx21 said: The NFL has already said that players will not be mandated to get the vaccine. So what Buffalo is doing is very unfair. They should at least give the option of providing a negative test for fans that are not vaccinated. Yeah, that's some BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 27 minutes ago, Malacka11 said: I think I'm conveying my point very poorly here. I agree that being a healthy weight will definitely help you out. But when people say that eating healthy and exercising are the equivalent of medical healthcare -as in, you can simply rely on eating and exercising to stave off diseases- that's just stupid. Eating healthy and exercising does help stave off many medical diseases ... that is medical fact. Even Covid. I posted a new study here yesterday that showed that people that were normal body weight and had high levels of good HDL cholesterol caught Covid at lower rates than people that were obese and had type 2 diabetes. I certainly am not suggesting that most people should not get the Covid vaccine. Covid is here and majority of people in this country are at high risk (heck 70% of people are overweight/obese). It's very important for most people to get vaccinated. I'm just saying that for people that have to wait to get vaccinated or plan to not get vaccinated, getting into better shape is critical to reduce risk. The first Covid wave last spring was an unexpected shock, but if people had put in effort to get into better shape over the summer there certainly would have been many less deaths during the Covid wave during the Fall/Winter. We know for a fact that being obese is the #1 Covid death risk factor, other than being elderly. People that eat healthy and exercise get severely ill and die from Covid at much lower rates, so it's an important thing to do. Of course it's important for many other things as well, like preventing heart disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaryWarren Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 43 minutes ago, winterwx21 said: Let me also say that I find it pretty funny that Bills QB Josh Allen says he might not want a vaccine and doesn't believe in any kind of vaccine mandate, yet a vaccine mandate is going to be in place for Bills fans. I'm sure he's not too happy about this. He's already suffering from CTE. RIP. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Given that testing has gone down and the numbers up like they are, I'm going to go ahead and say the forth wave has officially started. How bad this wave gets will be very telling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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winterwx21 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 After all my talk of of how important it is to eat healthy and exercise, I'm leaving now to go to The Cheesecake Factory to eat dinner and dessert. LOL. But yes, you can cheat once a week or so as long as you eat healthy most of the time. I'm not a believer in being overly strict with diet ... you have to enjoy some unhealthy foods from time to time! Everyone have a swell night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stebo Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 5 hours ago, winterwx21 said: I'm not afraid of contracting the disease because I already had it and it had almost no impact on me. All I had was a scratchy throat, a slight headache and a little congestion. So I'm not a dumbass ... I already know how my body reacted to the virus. Both my cardiologist and primary care doctor told me my chance of getting severely ill from Covid is almost zero because my heart/lungs and immune system are much stronger than average people. My resting heart rate is 36, which is very rare, and my cardiologist told me that my heart and lungs are stronger than most 18 year old athletes even though I'm in my 40s. Different runners have different fitness levels. Not all runners are extremely fit. Some have lower to moderate moderate fitness levels. Don't act as if you know what everyone's risk level is. So yes, I am more worried about the vaccine than I am of Covid. And I'd rather die from being struck by lightning than a blood clot from a vaccine. When you take a vaccine you're doing something that's supposed to protect you, so imagine dying from it instead. To me that's the worst type of tragedy there is, except for being murdered. So I am not ok with even the tiniest chance of something happening from the vaccine. I do all this work (exercise) to keep myself in top shape, so I'd much rather rely on the natural protection. If I wasn't at extremely low Covid risk, I'm sure I would feel differently and get the vaccine. These vaccines are a great thing. I just think the very small percentage of people that are at super low Covid risk due to being athletes can not get the vaccine and it can be considered a reasonable decision. A lot of baseball teams right now are having a hard time getting to 85% vaccination which would take away restrictions. That's because there are plenty of athletes like me that don't want the vaccine. The decision should be respected. Enough with your resting heart rate bullshit, even if any of this is true, Covid doesn't care and you could easily get extremely sick. Just because you think you are healthy doesn't my you are superhuman. I get tired of you bringing up your personal heart rate as if that is a way to wash away your terrible positions with respect to covid. You have been doing this now for months and it is just as stupid now as it was then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoeppeya Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Just now, Stebo said: Enough with your resting heart rate bullshit, even if any of this is true, Covid doesn't care and you could easily get extremely sick. Just because you think you are healthy doesn't my you are superhuman. I get tired of you bringing up your personal heart rate as if that is a way to wash away your terrible positions with respect to covid. You have been doing this now for months and it is just as stupid now as it was then. Pot meet kettle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted April 13, 2021 Author Share Posted April 13, 2021 ya’ll like to go in circles too often.need some new material.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Just now, schoeppeya said: Pot meet kettle Get lost, he doesn't need you running interference to his shitty posts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chambana Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 I’m just going to leave this right here, I don’t care who I offend anymore, but you all need to start asking yourself what is more important long term. Long term as in the economy, suicide rate, drug rate, child abuse rate, children socially, and academically. This virus Has a very very high survival rate among humans with no underlying conditions, and the majority of us under 65 will be absolutely fine. You want the government to tell you how to live your life, but yet the government ignores their own draconian measures. Long term the inflation from the trillions upon trillions we have spent are going to be devastating. How any of you feel like shutting down a multi trillion economy AGAIN is beneficial is baffling to me. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Chambana said: I’m just going to leave this right here, I don’t care who I offend anymore, but you all need to start asking yourself what is more important long term. Long term as in the economy, suicide rate, drug rate, child abuse rate, children socially, and academically. This virus Has a very very high survival rate among humans with no underlying conditions, and the majority of us under 65 will be absolutely fine. You want the government to tell you how to live your life, but yet the government ignores their own draconian measures. Long term the inflation from the trillions upon trillions we have spent are going to be devastating. How any of you feel like shutting down a multi trillion economy AGAIN is beneficial is baffling to me. 20.4% of the deaths were under 65, and 85.1% of all cases were under 65 plus we have no idea of the long term ramifications of Covid, but by all means keep acting like it is no big deal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 40 minutes ago, WaryWarren said: He's already suffering from CTE. RIP. Nah. Growing up on a cantaloupe farm will do that to you lol. Its fine. I'd rather he be a bit more pro vaccine but he mostly took a neutral milquetoast position. Perhaps he wants to make sure that he doesn't offend anyway and sell merchandise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Powerball said: Now that's something I have an issue with. Two different sets of rules... Hopefully, if the fans are mandated to be vaccinated, the players are as well. It's an erie county rule not a bills rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dta1984 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 17 minutes ago, Chambana said: I’m just going to leave this right here, I don’t care who I offend anymore, but you all need to start asking yourself what is more important long term. Long term as in the economy, suicide rate, drug rate, child abuse rate, children socially, and academically. This virus Has a very very high survival rate among humans with no underlying conditions, and the majority of us under 65 will be absolutely fine. You want the government to tell you how to live your life, but yet the government ignores their own draconian measures. Long term the inflation from the trillions upon trillions we have spent are going to be devastating. How any of you feel like shutting down a multi trillion economy AGAIN is beneficial is baffling to me. Though many refuse to hear it, this is true. Those that love all of the restrictions are just afraid that their lives will go back to be boring after everything is over. They enjoy telling others how to live their lives. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 28 minutes ago, Chambana said: I’m just going to leave this right here, I don’t care who I offend anymore, but you all need to start asking yourself what is more important long term. Long term as in the economy, suicide rate, drug rate, child abuse rate, children socially, and academically. This virus Has a very very high survival rate among humans with no underlying conditions, and the majority of us under 65 will be absolutely fine. You want the government to tell you how to live your life, but yet the government ignores their own draconian measures. Long term the inflation from the trillions upon trillions we have spent are going to be devastating. How any of you feel like shutting down a multi trillion economy AGAIN is beneficial is baffling to me. Not so fast. It should noted that over half of the hospitalizations in Brazil are 40 and under. If that variant takes off here this forth wave could be the worst one yet because so many of our youth have yet to be vaccinated 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, dta1984 said: Though many refuse to hear it, this is true. Those that love all of the restrictions are just afraid that their lives will go back to be boring after everything is over. They enjoy telling others how to live their lives. That is a terrible lie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 I leave for a second and come back to more than one person who has become unhinged over COVID safety measures. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 28 minutes ago, OSUmetstud said: It's an erie county rule not a bills rule. I stand by what I said, which was that it's an unfair double standard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Powerball said: I stand by what I said, which was that it's an unfair double standard. I mean maybe. I'd rather have everyone vaccinated lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, OSUmetstud said: I mean maybe. I'd rather have everyone vaccinated lol. I am sure Allen will be too, even if he is a country boy, someone with a brain around him will motivate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Stebo said: I am sure Allen will be too, even if he is a country boy, someone with a brain around him will motivate him. Yeah I have a feeling he'll get around to it. He didn't say he wouldn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoeppeya Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, OSUmetstud said: I mean maybe. I'd rather have everyone vaccinated lol. I think that’s his point 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, schoeppeya said: I think that’s his point Sure. I feel like the county would have a real tough time trying to exert its influence over a NFL team in that way. The NFLPA would probably complain and take them to court. I dont know the rules and the legal but requiring a vaccine to play for the Bills (especially under an EUA) might be a bit different than requiring one for attending a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 55 minutes ago, Chambana said: I’m just going to leave this right here, I don’t care who I offend anymore, but you all need to start asking yourself what is more important long term. Long term as in the economy, suicide rate, drug rate, child abuse rate, children socially, and academically. This virus Has a very very high survival rate among humans with no underlying conditions, and the majority of us under 65 will be absolutely fine. You want the government to tell you how to live your life, but yet the government ignores their own draconian measures. Long term the inflation from the trillions upon trillions we have spent are going to be devastating. How any of you feel like shutting down a multi trillion economy AGAIN is beneficial is baffling to me. I challenge you to find me a peer reviewed study on any of this stuff. I’ll wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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