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nwohweather Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Unless these are tech-oriented companies, the talent pool part doesn't check out. Tampa, while a very nice city (one of my favorites), has a laughable pool of educated talent and Austin is only good for tech talent. Detroit is still (by far) the place auto companies want to be in order to easily attract/poach talent, especially Mechanical Engineers. Wrong. Companies are moving along with their people en masse down to the South. How do I know this? Because I’m one of those people lol and so are many of my friends. The sun belt migration is on full bore here. Talent wants to live in cool places with nice weather, it’s why Nashville, Charlotte, Charleston, Atlanta, Birmingham, Tampa, Austin, Dallas are absolutely exploding. Then factor in that these companies are moving factories here to avoid unions and opening up downtown offices for their white collar personnel in a more business tax friendly climate. Cap that off with a more friendly weather climate and you’ve got a boomtown. Sorry about the OT rant, feel free to delete Hoosier 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 27 minutes ago, nwohweather said: Wrong. Companies are moving along with their people en masse down to the South. How do I know this? Because I’m one of those people lol and so are many of my friends. The sun belt migration is on full bore here. Talent wants to live in cool places with nice weather, it’s why Nashville, Charlotte, Charleston, Atlanta, Birmingham, Tampa, Austin, Dallas are absolutely exploding. Then factor in that these companies are moving factories here to avoid unions and opening up downtown offices for their white collar personnel in a more business tax friendly climate. Cap that off with a more friendly weather climate and you’ve got a boomtown. Sorry about the OT rant, feel free to delete Hoosier Actually now that I think about it, I could really get behind younger and more educated people flocking to those cities and making the population of their respective states more urban/suburban and less rural. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 21 minutes ago, nwohweather said: Wrong... k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malacka11 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 The more cities grow, the more liberal everyone becomes. History repeats. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 9 hours ago, Malacka11 said: The more cities grow, the more liberal everyone becomes. History repeats. Wouldn’t it be ironic if a bunch of businesses moved to Florida and Texas for things conservatives like, such as low taxes and warm climates, then brought in a bunch of young, educated, liberal talent and flipped 67 electoral votes in the process? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 This is bullshit. Do they want this virus to continue? One day J and J isn't good then its Moderna and now Phizer. Maybe Trump was right about the media being fake news. ( I know people don't want to hear it ) https://www.fox5ny.com/news/pfizers-covid-19-vaccine-may-be-less-effective-against-uk-south-african-variants-than-original-strain-israe?utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 24 minutes ago, MJO812 said: This is bullshit. Do they want this virus to continue? One day J and J isn't good then its Moderna and now Phizer. Maybe Trump was right about the media being fake news. ( I know people don't want to hear it ) https://www.fox5ny.com/news/pfizers-covid-19-vaccine-may-be-less-effective-against-uk-south-african-variants-than-original-strain-israe?utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=facebook Looks like some fake news. Pfizer is 91% effective vs South African variant https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-pfizer/pfizer-biontech-covid-19-shot-91-effective-in-updated-data-protective-against-south-african-variant-idUSKBN2BO55Y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 I don't think the majority of people realize how effective these vaccines are. The flu vaccine is only 40-60% effective. The Measles vaccine is 97% effective and virtual eradicated the virus completely. These covid vaccines have great efficacy. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Just now, BuffaloWeather said: I don't think the majority of people realize how effective these vaccines are. The flu vaccine is only 40-60% effective. These vaccines are top notch. The Measles vaccine is 97% effective and virtual eradicated the virus completely. Agree but yet people don't want to get them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 1 hour ago, TimB84 said: Wouldn’t it be ironic if a bunch of businesses moved to Florida and Texas for things conservatives like, such as low taxes and warm climates, then brought in a bunch of young, educated, liberal talent and flipped 67 electoral votes in the process? I wonder if a lot of business move overseas with the increasing tax hike coming. From 21-28%? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Just now, MJO812 said: Agree but yet people don't want to get them. A lot of people are getting them. As long as 60-70% of people get them along with prior infections we will reach herd immunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoeppeya Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said: I wonder if a lot of business move overseas with the increasing tax hike coming. From 21-28%? I have a feeling the corporations that managed to pay zero taxes when they were 21% will still mange to pay zero taxes when they are 28% 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Just now, schoeppeya said: I have a feeling the corporations that managed to pay zero taxes when they were 21% will still mange to pay zero taxes when they are 28% Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, schoeppeya said: I have a feeling the corporations that managed to pay zero taxes when they were 21% will still mange to pay zero taxes when they are 28% Absolutely. And I have a feeling that even if a bunch of young, educated liberals flock to cities in the South, it won’t automatically flip the 67 electoral votes and congressional seats in TX/FL, it’ll just result in more gerrymandering and legislation designed to reduce turnout. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 At our current vaccination rate 80% of 16+ will be vaccinated by end of May. Along with prior infections, that is herd immunity. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said: At our current vaccination rate 80% of 16+ will be vaccinated by end of May. Along with prior infections, that is herd immunity. Things should get better by the summer. Hopefully no more masks but if not then I am fine with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 46 minutes ago, TimB84 said: Absolutely. And I have a feeling that even if a bunch of young, educated liberals flock to cities in the South, it won’t automatically flip the 67 electoral votes and congressional seats in TX/FL, it’ll just result in more gerrymandering and legislation designed to reduce turnout. Well it's causing a little friction I'll tell you that, this is a very proud people down here and being Southern is a very important thing to them. For example many towns in the Charleston area push back against national chains because it takes away from local businesses, this is why things like Dick's Sporting Goods and Buffalo Wild Wings are a rarity here. One thing I've seen though is the more liberal folks have taken to Colorado or a western state as the transition to this city has been bumpy for many of them to say the least. With the exception of GA, I don't see any of these states flipping because those who adapt to the culture are those who stay long term. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Why did Powerball weenie me ? I said I'm fine wearing a mask . Weird. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Why did Powerball weenie me ? I said I'm fine wearing a mask . Weird. Since you asked, because despite the pseudoscience being peddled by some in this thread, it's completely unrealistic to expect "no more masks" by the Summer. At the earliest, Summer 2022 is when things will be "normal" across much of the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Just now, Powerball said: Since you asked, because despite the pseudoscience being peddled by some in this thread, it's completely unrealistic to expect "no more masks" by the Summer. At the earliest, Summer 2022 is when things will be "normal" across much of the country. I was being optimistic but I agree most likely next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoeppeya Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Powerball said: Since you asked, because despite the pseudoscience being peddled by some in this thread, it's completely unrealistic to expect "no more masks" by the Summer. At the earliest, Summer 2022 is when things will be "normal" across much of the country. Depends what you call "much of the country". Good luck expecting people to keep wearing masks when 80% of them have been vaccinated and deaths are extremely low. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, schoeppeya said: Depends what you call "much of the country". Good luck expecting people to keep wearing masks when 80% of them have been vaccinated and deaths are extremely low. Some of you don't understand how vaccinations work. First of all, "80% of them" have not been fully vaccinated yet. I'm not sure who pulled that number out of their ass, but they're spreading false information. The fact is, only 1/3 of the US population has received their first shot and oly 21% of the US population has been fully vaccinated. https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/states-ranked-by-percentage-of-covid-19-vaccines-administered.html Second, you can still catch the virus and suffer from severe symptons despite being vaccinated. A vaccine merely reduces the chances of that happening (not eliminate them). And if you're someone with pre-existing conditions or a weakened immune system, the vaccination's effectiveness won't be as strong. Even here in Texas, every major retailer / restaurant (including Texas-based establishments) is still mandating masks. And in work spaces, they're still enforcing mask wearing and 6 feet social distancing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, Powerball said: Since you asked, because despite the pseudoscience being peddled by some in this thread, it's completely unrealistic to expect "no more masks" by the Summer. At the earliest, Summer 2022 is when things will be "normal" across much of the country. I disagree. I will be at a Bills game this fall with a packed stadium. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Just now, Powerball said: Some of you don't understand how vaccinations work. First of all, "80% of them" have not been fully vaccinated yet. I'm not sure who pulled that number out of their ass, but they're spreading false information. The fact is, only 1/3 of the US population has received their first shot and oly 21% of the US population has been fully vaccinated. https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/states-ranked-by-percentage-of-covid-19-vaccines-administered.html Second, you can still catch the virus and suffer from severe symptons despite being vaccinated. A vaccine merely reduces the chances of that happening (not eliminate them). Even here in Texas, every major retailer / restaurant (including Texas-based establishments) is still mandating masks. And in work spaces, they're still enforcing mask wearing and 6 feeet social distancing. USA update on first dose shots: 2,100,023 first dose shots. Last week 2,001,446 7 day rolling avg is now 1,861,140. 1,847,057 yesterday. <-- record 119.2m age 16+ have first dose - ~44.8% (117.1m - ~44.0% yesterday) 118.4m adults have first doses - 45.9% (116.3m - 45.1% yesterday) 78.5% of 65+ have first dose (78.1% yesterday) At this rate, the first dose shots: End of April - 154.6m May - 211m 16+ population numbers (based on 266.3m population) End of April - 58.1% May - 79.7% 50% on 4/19 60% on 5/3 69.420% on 5/17 Total population numbers (based on 331.8m population) End of April - 46.4% May - 64% 40% on 4/19 50% on 5/06 60% on 5/24 69.420% on 6/10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Percentage in each age group that have received at least one dose Apr-11 Apr-10 Apr-04 Weekly Δ Daily Δ 75+ 77.8% 77.5% 75.4% 2.4% 0.3% 65-74 78.6% 78.2% 75.2% 3.4% 0.4% 50-64 51.8% 50.8% 44.3% 7.5% 1.0% 40-49 38.7% 37.8% 31.9% 6.8% 0.9% 30-39 32.6% 31.7% 26.4% 6.1% 0.9% 18-29 23.1% 22.2% 17.7% 5.4% 0.8% <18 1.08% 1.00% 0.61% 0.48% 0.08% 16-17 9.6% 8.8% 5.3% 4.2% 0.7% 16+ 45.0% 44.3% 40.2% 4.8% 0.8% 0+ 36.3% 35.6% 32.4% 3.9% 0.6% Percentage in each age group that are fully vaccinated Apr-11 Apr-10 Apr-04 Weekly Δ Daily Δ 75+ 62.3% 61.7% 57.6% 4.7% 0.6% 65-74 60.0% 59.1% 52.7% 7.2% 0.9% 50-64 27.3% 26.2% 20.3% 6.9% 1.1% 40-49 20.3% 19.5% 15.9% 4.3% 0.7% 30-39 17.0% 16.4% 13.5% 3.6% 0.6% 18-29 10.9% 10.4% 8.3% 2.6% 0.5% <18 0.20% 0.19% 0.13% 0.08% 0.01% 16-17 1.8% 1.7% 1.1% 0.7% 0.13% 16+ 27.4% 26.7% 23.3% 4.1% 0.7% 0+ 22.1% 21.5% 18.8% 3.3% 0.6% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 65+ at 80% vaccine rate is the most important number to me as that segment was the hardest hit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Powerball said: Some of you don't understand how vaccinations work. First of all, "80% of them" have not been fully vaccinated yet. I'm not sure who pulled that number out of their ass, but they're spreading false information. The fact is, only 1/3 of the US population has received their first shot and oly 21% of the US population has been fully vaccinated. https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/states-ranked-by-percentage-of-covid-19-vaccines-administered.html Second, you can still catch the virus and suffer from severe symptons despite being vaccinated. A vaccine merely reduces the chances of that happening (not eliminate them). Even here in Texas, every major retailer / restaurant (including Texas-based establishments) is still mandating masks. And in work spaces, they're still enforcing mask wearing and 6 feeet social distancing. Incorrect. The vaccines protect 100% against severe illness. The vaccine was 100% effective against severe disease as defined by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-confirm-high-efficacy-and-no-serious#:~:text=The vaccine was 100% effective,and Drug Administration (FDA). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoeppeya Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said: Incorrect. The vaccines protect 100% against severe illness. The vaccine was 100% effective against severe disease as defined by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-confirm-high-efficacy-and-no-serious#:~:text=The vaccine was 100% effective,and Drug Administration (FDA). @Powerball Anything else I don't understand? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said: I disagree. I will be at a Bills game this fall with a packed stadium. I'm waiting until my 2nd shot to go to a met game but the tickets are 100 plus right now. Smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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