dta1984 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, madwx said: Glad to see you learn and grow from your past actions. Maybe one day you’ll have an intelligent response Lol what? You can disagree with my name reference if you want, but it isn't related at all to Georgia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwx Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, dta1984 said: Lol what? You can disagree with my name reference if you want, but it isn't related at all to Georgia. https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-56218684 Please read some articles like this and let me know what you think. After you read a few like this you can see how terms like that can lead to racism and hate crimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoeppeya Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 31 minutes ago, madwx said: https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-56218684 Please read some articles like this and let me know what you think. After you read a few like this you can see how terms like that can lead to racism and hate crimes https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/violence-against-asian-americans-why-hate-crime-should-be-used-n1258793 I thought this one was pretty fair too, probably because it was published before the media could blow up the white guy narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwx Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 1 hour ago, schoeppeya said: The violence that has no evidence of being racially motivated? Don't even disagree but at least pick a relevant example. You’re right. I had misunderstood what had happened and made an argument based on it But my point still stands, calling the virus that does nothing but inflame things 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoeppeya Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Just now, madwx said: You’re right. I had misunderstood what had happened and made an argument based on it But my point still stands, calling the virus that does nothing but inflame things Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 3 hours ago, madwx said: Language like this leads to violence against minorities like you saw in Georgia. If you have any decency you should stop using it I agree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Hospitalizations now under 36k 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 IHME has daily average deaths not dropping below 500 until the middle of May. I sure hope it happens earlier but the backside of these curves has proven to not go as quickly as we'd like. For comparison, we were getting about 1500 deaths per day in mid-May 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purduewx80 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 8 hours ago, Hoosier said: Not going to comment on that specific case, but there have definitely been ramifications from calling this the "China virus." I have seen the argument that there is some history of naming diseases based on where the initial cases showed up, such as Lyme Disease and Saint Louis encephalitis. Then there's the big one -- the Spanish Flu -- which didn't even originate there. Perhaps we shouldn't have given those names to those diseases, but it's kinda tough to go back decades and undo that. It is difficult to ascribe any innocent motive to calling this the "China virus." It was never called that in an official capacity, and it is easy enough to just say coronavirus, covid, covid-19, SARS-CoV2. It's not some 20 letter word that is hard to remember. this doesn't go nearly far enough in addressing the rampant racism in this thread. do better. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 2 hours ago, purduewx80 said: this doesn't go nearly far enough in addressing the rampant racism in this thread. do better. It's Hoosier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoeppeya Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 2 hours ago, purduewx80 said: this doesn't go nearly far enough in addressing the rampant racism in this thread. do better. Lol come on man that’s pretty serious hyperbole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dta1984 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 3 hours ago, purduewx80 said: this doesn't go nearly far enough in addressing the rampant racism in this thread. do better. It's not racism 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Man this thread is woke. I for one am disgusted that the 1918 epidemic is referred to as the “Spanish Flu”. What a disgusting comment to those in Spain, how will they get by with such an offense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 On 3/18/2021 at 5:36 PM, dta1984 said: Lol "masks are for theater after you've been vaccinated or had the virus." Get him senator Paul! Dr. Fauci keeps changing his mind more than I change my boxers. On 3/18/2021 at 6:53 PM, dta1984 said: On a roller coaster? Lol come on loosen up. Stupid rule 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Cuomo lifted curfew for Casinos , Movies , Bowling Alleys and Gyms. Restaurants are now allowing 50 percent capacity for indoor dining in NYC and 75 percent for the rest of the state. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dta1984 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Dr. Fauci keeps changing his mind more than I change my boxers. Stupid rule Lol can't forget this gem 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, dta1984 said: Lol can't forget this gem Everyone bashed Trump in late January when he closed the border to China. Liberals thought Trump was insane and said just go on with your lives. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 And....I have not heard ANYBODY in my area of Central New York calling this the "China virus" or any such thing. Not saying it doesn't happen..maybe out there in the Midwest area..... This whole blowing everything out of proportion in this nation is an epidemic in itself. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dta1984 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said: And....I have not heard ANYBODY in my area of Central New York calling this the "China virus" or any such thing. Not saying it doesn't happen..maybe out there in the Midwest area..... This whole blowing everything out of proportion in this nation is an epidemic in itself. Agreed. Everyone is so easily offended lately. As far as the naming, we have always named viruses from the origin. I suppose the origin of this "virus" is still debatable to some . See; spanish flu, Asian flu, russian flu, Fiji measles, German measles etc. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dta1984 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 24 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Everyone bashed Trump in late January when he closed the border to China. Liberals thought Trump was insane and said just go on with your lives. No doubt the early decisions saved lives. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 21 minutes ago, dta1984 said: Agreed. Everyone is so easily offended lately. As far as the naming, we have always named viruses from the origin. I suppose the origin of this "virus" is still debatable to some . See; spanish flu, Asian flu, russian flu, Fiji measles, German measles etc. They changed the guidance on this because people "blame" the country of discovery/origin and there's harassment and hate crimes against those individuals. There's efforts also to not name variants of the county of discovery also...to name it via the number instead of SA or Brazil or whatever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Virologists would never name anything the "China virus." The argument here is so disingenuous. Theres some comfort that there's only a single poster here that's used that term in this thread the past few months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dta1984 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 1 hour ago, OSUmetstud said: They changed the guidance on this because people "blame" the country of discovery/origin and there's harassment and hate crimes against those individuals. There's efforts also to not name variants of the county of discovery also...to name it via the number instead of SA or Brazil or whatever. When did it change? So it's ok to call the variants by where they are coming from? UK, South Africa, Brazil etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 14 minutes ago, dta1984 said: When did it change? So it's ok to call the variants by where they are coming from? UK, South Africa, Brazil etc. I literally said in my reply that the directive is not to call the variants by the place of discovery for the same reason. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1165366 2015. The pork industry suffered in 2009 because of the "swine flu." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Cuomo's accusers are completely irrelevant for this thread. Keep it out of here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, OSUmetstud said: I literally said in my reply that the directive is not to call the variants by the place of discovery for the same reason. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1165366 2015. The pork industry suffered in 2009 because of the "swine flu." I do think it's trickier when it comes to talking about the variants. I follow this stuff fairly closely and I can't tell you what numbers the Brazilian variant goes by. You have Fauci and other medical people still sometimes referring to the variants by country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, Hoosier said: I do think it's trickier when it comes to talking about the variants. I follow this stuff fairly closely and I can't tell you what numbers the Brazilian variant goes by. You have Fauci and other medical people still sometimes referring to the variants by country. Yeah I agree. I watch the JAMA interviews and they do try to use the letter/numbers but its tough for people to remember things like B.1.1.7. Especially with the variants, the UK was doing far more generic survaillance than anyone else a few months back. It was discovered in Kent but it could have very easily have evolved somewhere else. It's more likely that sars cov 2 started in Wuhan but that's not a given either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dta1984 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 20 minutes ago, OSUmetstud said: I literally said in my reply that the directive is not to call the variants by the place of discovery for the same reason. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1165366 2015. The pork industry suffered in 2009 because of the "swine flu." Great, you "literally" made my point for me. Those variant names are plastered all over this thread and there's no crying about that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 On 3/18/2021 at 5:36 PM, dta1984 said: Lol "masks are for theater after you've been vaccinated or had the virus." Get him senator Paul! Took a 5 mile hike on the outskirts of Ann Arbor (heavily liberal) and people hiking in the middle of the woods were wearing masks. Leaving metro Detroit you hardly see anyone wearing them outside of large chain stores and certainly not outside. No lives were saved, it's just theater. He's right. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 1 minute ago, dta1984 said: Wtf is your deal. I said if you have an issue with the China virus, why aren't the variant names that are routinely posted here a big deal? You aren't interested in learning anything. I sourced why. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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