madwx Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 also vaccines are very very good at preventing severe illness so at that point any vaccinated person should have no fear at getting anything more than a mild illness even if they do get infected 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dta1984 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 23 hours ago, Angrysummons said: Its ok to admit the pandemic is ending. Sure is, Iowa is on it! https://www.nbc12.com/2021/02/06/gov-reynolds-lifting-all-covid-restrictions-iowa-businesses/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cary67 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 26 minutes ago, KokomoWX said: One thing I wonder is where do we go when we have vaccines for everyone but not everyone choses to get the vaccine. I think we will end up with 20% not taking it for whatever reason (valid or not). I really am hoping to not start the fall school year with mandatory masks. I think masks will still be worn through next winter in public settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, Cary67 said: I think masks will still be worn through next winter in public settings. I think it will be more voluntary by then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaryWarren Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 28 minutes ago, dta1984 said: Sure is, Iowa is on it! https://www.nbc12.com/2021/02/06/gov-reynolds-lifting-all-covid-restrictions-iowa-businesses/ Their ghoul of a governor looks absolutely thrilled at the news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanDe680 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Masks aren't going anywhere for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanDe680 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 41 minutes ago, dta1984 said: Sure is, Iowa is on it! https://www.nbc12.com/2021/02/06/gov-reynolds-lifting-all-covid-restrictions-iowa-businesses/ For a state with a positivity rate still in the 20s, this is the stupidest thing yet. Sounds like clowns making decisions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanDe680 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Just now, Angrysummons said: It is over 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dta1984 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 51 minutes ago, RyanDe680 said: Masks aren't going anywhere for a while. I'm sure there are some states that will hang on to the mandates longer than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cary67 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 48 minutes ago, Angrysummons said: It is over At the very least would think mask usage may come back over the winter due to the success it had with depressing flu and other respiratory viruses. Seems to have caught on in Asia for years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 11 minutes ago, dta1984 said: I'm sure there are some states that will hang on to the mandates longer than others. Agree. This entire pandemic has seen varying regulations across the states so there's no reason to think every state will end the mask mandates at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Scheduled for my 1st vaccine Saturday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanDe680 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 4 hours ago, cyclone77 said: Scheduled for my 1st vaccine Saturday. How was scheduling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 33 minutes ago, RyanDe680 said: How was scheduling? It's at work, the health professionals are coming out to the facility to issue them so pretty easy on my end lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedskater Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 17 hours ago, BuffaloWeather said: It won't matter as herd immunity is 70%. Between infections and vaccines that 20% won't matter. The 70% number was based on COVID-19 a year ago. The newer variants may push that number above 85% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Speedskater said: The 70% number was based on COVID-19 a year ago. The newer variants may push that number above 85% Good point. I don't think the new variants are nearly as deadly or require hospitalizations nearly as much. Might be too soon to say that but from what we've seen so far a valid hypothesis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanDe680 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 10 hours ago, cyclone77 said: It's at work, the health professionals are coming out to the facility to issue them so pretty easy on my end lol. Yes! That's great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 2 hours ago, BuffaloWeather said: Good point. I don't think the new variants are nearly as deadly or require hospitalizations nearly as much. Might be too soon to say that but from what we've seen so far a valid hypothesis. I think it depends who you are talking about. For unvaccinated people, there is not much pointing toward the variants being milder, and if anything they may be worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattb65 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 In terms of vaccines and public health restrictions, my opinion is that after the supply catches up to meet the demand and everyone that chooses to be vaccinated gets vaccinated, at that point there should be little if any government imposed restrictions. At that point Darwin can take over for the anti-vaxers. At the same time I also think it's completely reasonable for companies and states to provide favorable treatment to vaccinated individuals. For example Hawaii is discussing getting rid of mandatory quarantines or required negative covid tests for travelers arriving more than 14 days after their second covid vaccine dose. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Hospitalizations now under 60k!!! 59,882 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Cases at 74,676. Light at the end of this tunnel growing brighter by the day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaryWarren Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Angrysummons says the total number of active cases will be at 0 by May. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattb65 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 I've previously posted that we will likely see hospitalizations and deaths continue to plummet even if the decline in cases slows down because of the vaccine effect. There's evidence that this is already happening. For the entire pandemic deaths in long term care facilities have made up 30-40% of the total deaths every week. In the last few weeks this number has been declining and is down to 18% see the article and tweet below. Note that New York and Missouri were excluded from the analysis because of large undated dumps of deaths recently. I'm not sure why Arizona was excluded. The number of lives that the vaccines will save is incredible. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KokomoWX Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Let’s hope he is correct. https://nypost.com/2021/02/20/johns-hopkins-expert-says-covid-19-pandemic-could-end-by-april/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=pasteboard_app. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cary67 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 47 minutes ago, KokomoWX said: Let’s hope he is correct. https://nypost.com/2021/02/20/johns-hopkins-expert-says-covid-19-pandemic-could-end-by-april/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=pasteboard_app . First off hope that is correct.Based on 59.5 million vaccines administered and 28 million documented covid cases would think a decent percentage of people still susceptible. The wildcard is how many undocumented mild or asymptomatic cases are there?2x,4x,5x the number of known cases? Also there's overlap between people vaccinated but also already having had covid lowering totals. Hard to gauge what the real percentage of susceptible population still exists. Also some of the recent sharp declines in new cases have weather related closures of testing sites playing a role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 59 minutes ago, KokomoWX said: Let’s hope he is correct. https://nypost.com/2021/02/20/johns-hopkins-expert-says-covid-19-pandemic-could-end-by-april/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=pasteboard_app . I think you found someone more bullish than Angry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCNYILWX Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 I think you found someone more bullish than Angry. This was a thread in response to Makary's original WSJ op-ed:https://mobile.twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1362513761383321602Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 2 hours ago, KokomoWX said: Let’s hope he is correct. https://nypost.com/2021/02/20/johns-hopkins-expert-says-covid-19-pandemic-could-end-by-april/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=pasteboard_app . It is somewhat possible especially since America has had such a high infection rate. That combined with vaccine rollout could do the trick. The wildcard will be the variant and how fast we can get the world vaccinated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 In the "how could that happen" category, a lung transplant recipient died after receiving covid-infected lungs. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/organ-transplant-patient-dies-after-receiving-covid-infected-lungs-n1258388 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 4 hours ago, Hoosier said: In the "how could that happen" category, a lung transplant recipient died after receiving covid-infected lungs. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/organ-transplant-patient-dies-after-receiving-covid-infected-lungs-n1258388 Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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