Stebo Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Angrysummons said: I doubt it. Actual infections are going down. You literally have no evidence of this. All the evidence is exactly to the contrary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Angrysummons said: Based on the fact of increased testing boosting overall cases after the holidays, that is pretty damning. Its peaked. Or that more people are getting it because of the holidays, there is a limit to how much testing can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 After a hard day of procuring PPE and distributing it to law enforcement, first responders, and county employees, planning vaccination points of distribution in coordination with the local health department, and speaking with local hospital officials about the number and severity of cases being treated, it's refreshing to come home and see this avatar, as it's always good for a smile. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 35 minutes ago, Stebo said: You literally have no evidence of this. All the evidence is exactly to the contrary. Nationally, we are at our highest average daily number of cases right now. It's almost like Angrysummons lives for being wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 13 minutes ago, Hoosier said: Nationally, we are at our highest average daily number of cases right now. It's almost like Angrysummons lives for being wrong. Yeah, at what point do the wrong posts need to go away? I feel like we are reaching that point, this is easily verified stuff that he is wrong about. So he is either being wrong for no reason or there is an ulterior motive here, and there have been other posters removed from threads like these in other subs here. Precedence is there, we don't need active misinformation being spread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 I mean... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEILwxbo Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, Hoosier said: I mean... I don’t know how someone can look at this and say things are getting better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, NEILwxbo said: I don’t know how someone can look at this and say things are getting better They are purposely lying because no other logical explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mississaugasnow Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 22 minutes ago, Stebo said: They are purposely lying because no other logical explanation. Ontario tried that in the Fall by saying testing is why we're finding new cases. A few weeks later when hospitals slowly started to see increase we barely did anything and said its mostly noise because of testing and that numbers have plateaued. Sitting here now 6 hours away from a Stay Home Mandate with no restaurants, gyms, malls, open. Curbside pick up for Home Depots, Lowes, Canadian Tire ect.. Kind of wish we were a bit stricter in the fall/December but ah well no going back now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattb65 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 I'll put forward a contrarian argument regarding national trends, it appears that we may be approaching a plateau in hospitalizations right around 130,000 which has held roughly for the past week. Test positivity also peaked about a week ago and appears to be leveling off or starting to drop. This could definitely still be a blip in the data but these are both signs that we may be at the peak. There is the risk that it is a false peak and the more contagious strain of virus could send the infection back to the stratosphere. There's also a race going on between virus and vaccine. I think even if the virus continues to run wild and I hope it doesn't, with the majority of the nursing home residents getting vaccinated by the end of this month we should hopefully see the daily deaths and infection fatality rate both dropping potentially dropping dramatically in February or March ( some of the timing is a matter of data reporting delays). 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanDe680 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, NEILwxbo said: I don’t know how someone can look at this and say things are getting better maybe that's the chart for the old people that he doesn't care about. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dta1984 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaryWarren Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 More great musings from the Angry, Horny Dads of Facebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 2 hours ago, mattb65 said: I'll put forward a contrarian argument regarding national trends, it appears that we may be approaching a plateau in hospitalizations right around 130,000 which has held roughly for the past week. Test positivity also peaked about a week ago and appears to be leveling off or starting to drop. This could definitely still be a blip in the data but these are both signs that we may be at the peak. There is the risk that it is a false peak and the more contagious strain of virus could send the infection back to the stratosphere. There's also a race going on between virus and vaccine. I think even if the virus continues to run wild and I hope it doesn't, with the majority of the nursing home residents getting vaccinated by the end of this month we should hopefully see the daily deaths and infection fatality rate both dropping potentially dropping dramatically in February or March ( some of the timing is a matter of data reporting delays). Next week or two will be telling to see if this is really the peak and my problem with the other person's post is that it was in the context of frequent downplaying/minimizing, which you have not been doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluoronium Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, dta1984 said: Why is it a mystery that the same measures to limit spread of coronavirus wouldn't work for a virus that spreads via the same ways, but is MUCH less contagious, has a shorter period of pre-symptomatic spread, and is partially stopped due to herd immunity via flu shots and previous exposure? If that is too much to comprehend...you're probably the same type of person to share a brainless facebook copypasta. For the record it's not just flu that's down either, RSV and enteroviruses are way down as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanDe680 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 39 minutes ago, fluoronium said: Why is it a mystery that the same measures to limit spread of coronavirus wouldn't work for a virus that spreads via the same ways, but is MUCH less contagious, has a shorter period of pre-symptomatic spread, and is partially stopped due to herd immunity via flu shots and previous exposure? If that is too much to comprehend...you're probably the same type of person to share a brainless facebook copypasta. For the record it's not just flu that's down either, RSV and enteroviruses are way down as well. This sounds too much like science. You will unfortunately soon be dismissed. I however agree with you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCNYILWX Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 One thing I'm seeing as a possible missed opportunity with the vaccine rollout is that households aren't being vaccinated. We're hearing that doses have been sitting unused and the vials once open have a limited shelf life. If a health care worker also has a spouse and x # of kids, why not vaccinate them all? Another example is a household where one person is 75+ and their spouse is 70-74. Why would only vaccinate the 75+ year old and not both? If the goal is getting population immunity, shouldn't we be trying to get as many shots in arms as possible and banking on the supply being there for the 2nd dose? I think that's the philosophy being applied in the moves to alleviate the excess supply this week, I'm just wondering if we could be doing even more. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong on the speculation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 3 hours ago, dta1984 said: Yeah we totally need more content this stupid. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Just now, RCNYILWX said: One thing I'm seeing as a possible missed opportunity with the vaccine rollout is that households aren't being vaccinated. We're hearing that doses have been sitting unused and the vials once open have a limited shelf life. If a health care worker also has a spouse and x # of kids, why not vaccinate them all? If the goal is getting population immunity, shouldn't we be trying to get as many shots in arms as possible and banking on the supply being there for the 2nd dose? I think that's the philosophy being applied in the moves to alleviate the excess supply this week, I'm just wondering if we could be doing even more. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong on the speculation. I think with how slow the roll out is, they are just focusing on the people who could easily get it due to occupation. Its ironic though we have a slow rollout but people who are avoiding getting the vax and then doses running the clock out. Needless to say this has been a massive failure in execution by the feds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCNYILWX Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 I think with how slow the roll out is, they are just focusing on the people who could easily get it due to occupation. Its ironic though we have a slow rollout but people who are avoiding getting the vax and then doses running the clock out. Needless to say this has been a massive failure in execution by the feds.Yep, the way our Federalist system works is that the states have a lot of power and autonomy. So they were always going to have a large role in the vaccine rollout. That said, agree, the federal government could and should have done much much more to organize the effort among the states, this is literally the largest vaccination campaign in our history. In past crises, we didn't essentially tell the states, "good luck" . Also it's a failure of Congress to not provide much needed funds for vaccine distribution until the recently passed relief bill. The failures of the initial vaccine rollout are similar to the failure of the federal govt to help organize the testing regime after the CDC fiasco with the test kits back in February. Yet another example in which our outcomes have been worse than they could've been. Don't think there's any way we avoid a large number of deaths from this virus, but even 100-150k less when it's all said and done would've been that many lives saved and that many less families in anguish, not to mention less people having spent time alone in the hospital battling the virus, and less people with long term health impacts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 St. Vincents hospital here in Indy is out of room. Just heard this from a friend who tried to take his grandmother to the hospital Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purduewx80 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Counterpoint, by a virologist, to the science fiction opinion article written by the clever writer a couple weeks back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattb65 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 24 minutes ago, Angrysummons said: Stebo the blabbering fool: I go by positivity and hospitalizations. It has peaked. It isn't growing anymore. Also to note, Johnson and Johnson's traditional vaccine will be out probably in February and by March will take over as the main vaccinating drug. Among the many problems with your posts is that you express certainty and present questionable and at times factually false information as if it is factual. You also never provide links to sources which is particularly important when you're putting forward more questionable information. This was particularly true when you were posting nonsense about the vaccines. It was always "I know a guy". And never more than that. You might be right that we are at the peak, you can see my post from yesterday expressing similar sentiments. But you need to look no further than the UK to see that they had a false peak before cases went out of control with the more contagious viral strain. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluoronium Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 The Johnson & Johnson vaccine isn't traditional by any means. It's a recombinant adenovirus that works quite similarly to the mRNA vaccines but with extra steps. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dta1984 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 This is a problem, it is not healthy. Bad messages being sent. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaryWarren Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, dta1984 said: This is a problem, it is not healthy. Bad messages being sent. Let's see your abs of steel, dta1984. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 18 minutes ago, mattb65 said: Among the many problems with your posts is that you express certainty and present questionable and at times factually false information as if it is factual. You also never provide links to sources which is particularly important when you're putting forward more questionable information. This was particularly true when you were posting nonsense about the vaccines. It was always "I know a guy". And never more than that. You might be right that we are at the peak, you can see my post from yesterday expressing similar sentiments. But you need to look no further than the UK to see that they had a false peak before cases went out of control with the more contagious viral strain. He has been pushing the peak thing at various times for weeks. Here's a post from almost 2 months ago in reference to hospitalizations. On 11/17/2020 at 2:00 PM, Angrysummons said: They have already skyrocketed. By early December they will peak. If you call the peak enough times, one of those times you will end up being right. Hopefully we are actually peaking now. Angry's posts in this thread are only part of the issue though. I have gotten complaints from multiple people and have resisted doing anything, but my patience is running out. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanDe680 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 The positivity rate in the midwest has come down little by little and this is good. CA on the other hand..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the ghost of leroy Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 32 minutes ago, dta1984 said: This is a problem, it is not healthy. Bad messages being sent. Id hit it 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Every dude triggered by that Cosmo cover gives off huge incel energy. 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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