dan11295 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Nationwide cases were down 20-25k+ compared to last Saturday. Positivity is also down slightly from last week.(Note: TN didn't report due to reprocessing large volume of tests, but I expect ~197k for today once they are added). Might finally be a sign nationwide numbers are peaking .Regardless, deaths won't peak until early January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dta1984 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Nothing to see here... https://nypost.com/2020/12/19/chicago-hospital-pauses-coronavirus-vaccinations/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dta1984 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 What rational pregnant woman or rational parent would sign their young child up for this? https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/covid-19-vaccine-trials-to-begin-on-pregnant-women-and-young-kids-in-january/2470214/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cary67 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 14 hours ago, Hoosier said: Have been trying to find out how many people in the US have received the vaccine so far. I saw 128,000 as of yesterday, but it was mentioned as being a significant undercount since some states didn't report any info. Let's say it's really 200-300k. Also, not sure exactly how many serious/severe allergic reactions have occurred. We have heard about 3 in Alaska and some other non-specific reports. Still more to learn, but it seems quite possible the significant allergic reaction happens in something like 1 in 20,000 to 1 in 50,000 people. If it's somewhere in that range, then it's not hard to see why it was missed in the trials as that would be at the edge or beyond the number of people who received the vaccine in trial. Given the circumstances, I'm not sure there was much of a choice though. Something had to be done to get vaccines out there after a certain safety threshold was reached, without studying and trialing it to death. At some point vaccinations/day better exceed new covid cases/day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Shore Slop Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 21 minutes ago, dta1984 said: Nothing to see here... https://nypost.com/2020/12/19/chicago-hospital-pauses-coronavirus-vaccinations/ Correct... https://www.tmj4.com/news/coronavirus/advocate-aurora-resumes-vaccinations-at-suburban-chicago-hospital-after-four-reactions-prompt-pause Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattb65 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 31 minutes ago, dta1984 said: What rational pregnant woman or rational parent would sign their young child up for this? https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/covid-19-vaccine-trials-to-begin-on-pregnant-women-and-young-kids-in-january/2470214/ Not sure if you've been following but Covid-19 appears to hit pregnant women hard and has caused some tragic deaths and has been linked to an increased risk of preterm labor and miscarriage. The vaccine so far has proven safe and extremely effective. The rate ofserious but treatable allergic reactions whose rate is TBD but unlikely to be higher than 1 in 30,000 is almost certainly less than the risk of much less treatable serious illness, death or miscarriage for pregnant women who contact severe covid. So I can easily see how pregnant women would rationally choose to enter a clinical trial. They may also be doing it to help others though... There's also a lot of people out there who care about other people and participating in a clinical trial means those people are willing to make a sacrifice to help others. I'm not surprised that you consider selfless actions irrational. It confirms a lot about how you've carried yourself in this thread. 5 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwx Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 1 hour ago, dta1984 said: What rational pregnant woman or rational parent would sign their young child up for this? https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/covid-19-vaccine-trials-to-begin-on-pregnant-women-and-young-kids-in-january/2470214/ Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Very large number of test results came back today in IN, by far the most test results on a Sunday and the 2nd highest test result day ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Wang Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 3 hours ago, dta1984 said: What rational pregnant woman or rational parent would sign their young child up for this? https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/covid-19-vaccine-trials-to-begin-on-pregnant-women-and-young-kids-in-january/2470214/ People who need money. They are paying $700-1500 ea to submit to the vaccine. The moderna vaccine, which was just approved, contains 66.6 milliliters of D-LUCIFERin. What a coinkydink. Yeah, no thanks. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Some of the week to week case numbers are really starting to come down in many states. IL down 1000 from last Sunday, PA down 3000 (big drop). More evidence IMHO national numbers have about peaked. Not that some areas of the country don't have major issues of course(CA being the biggie). Not really worried about another holiday surge that much, as in person holiday gathers will be offset by more people being off work/school being out. Interesting about the large number of tests in IN today. Wonder if more test results are getting backlogged due to lab demand and/or issues with states processing them (the latter happened in TN yesterday). Covid Tracking Project shows a drop off in total tests past few days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, Richard Wang said: The moderna vaccine, which was just approved, contains 66.6 milliliters of D-LUCIFERin. What a coinkydink. Yeah, no thanks. Is that real? I'm sorry but that is pretty funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Lot of countries now banning travel to UK, unfortunately the horse is a bit out of the barn already, as the variant has now been found in Belgium, Netherlands and Italy, and that's just where they have specifically looked for it so far. Whether this is responsible at all for the new spikes in some EU countries (Netherlands, Spain, Germany, etc.) is still unknown. Vaccines should still work it appears, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, dan11295 said: Lot of countries now banning travel to UK, unfortunately the horse is a bit out of the barn already, as the variant has now been found in Belgium, Netherlands and Italy, and that's just where they have specifically looked for it so far. Whether this is responsible at all for the new spikes in some EU countries (Netherlands, Spain, Germany, etc.) is still unknown. Vaccines should still work it appears, Probably a matter of time until this shows up in the US, if it hasn't sneaked in already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 If that new strain gets here that could be a huge setback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestrobjwa Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Hoosier said: Is that real? I'm sorry but that is pretty funny. It can't be...it sounds TOO coincidental, lolol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Reading some stuff on Twitter from Trevor Bedford referencing new work showing "antigenic drift" in common cold coronavirus allowing for reinfection after a few years, basically evolving to escape neutralizing immunity. In some ways like influenza. If that is true at some point the strain used in the vaccine may have to be updated. Even if that is the case one would hope the vaccines already given would provide some partial immunity and limit severe disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Nationally, more states are now falling in hospitalizations as opposed to rising. The only reason the national numbers are still up is California. As soon as their case growth/hospitalizations start to stabilize US numbers should start falling noticeably. As far as California, was looking at the LA County dashboard, their 7-day average tests have been flat for past week, despite rising positivity (now almost 15%). Am guessing they may have hit a wall on testing capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 37 minutes ago, dan11295 said: Nationally, more states are now falling in hospitalizations as opposed to rising. The only reason the national numbers are still up is California. As soon as their case growth/hospitalizations start to stabilize US numbers should start falling noticeably. As far as California, was looking at the LA County dashboard, their 7-day average tests have been flat for past week, despite rising positivity (now almost 15%). Am guessing they may have hit a wall on testing capacity. Got to be cautious with the data this week. Then there is this new strain we have to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Very March-esque today. Canada banned flights from the UK, and an Ontario-wide lockdown was leaked to start on Christmas Eve. The official announcement will be made at 1pm. Tension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 As long as the vaccines are effective things should slowly start getting better 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertSul Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 16 hours ago, Richard Wang said: People who need money. They are paying $700-1500 ea to submit to the vaccine. The moderna vaccine, which was just approved, contains 66.6 milliliters of D-LUCIFERin. What a coinkydink. Yeah, no thanks. You joined a weather forum and immediately submitted THIS as your very first post, RichardWang1984? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 I used to be proud to say that the U.S. leads the way, but now it's cases per million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 9 hours ago, on_wx said: Very March-esque today. Canada banned flights from the UK, and an Ontario-wide lockdown was leaked to start on Christmas Eve. The official announcement will be made at 1pm. Tension. I hope it's not some half ass lockdown. This Toronto and Peel lockdown hasn't done anything to reduce case numbers. It's either you go all in or you don't at all. Hopefully we start seeing vaccinations ramp up. My girlfriends’ brother is a doctor in Virginia and recently got both vaccine doses. He's doing great and if there are any side effects with these vaccines, they would likely occur within 48 hours should anyone get them. I'm tired of this and just want to move forward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Cases and hospitalization across the Midwest and OH Valley are falling rapidly now. No question we are over the hump case wise nationally. Hospitalizations should peak this week, deaths first week in January. I do not expect Christmas holiday to effect these declines much as Thanksgiving did not in states that were declining at the time. IL 2500 below last Monday, IN -900, MN -1000 today case wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattb65 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 More facts coming out about the rate of anaphylaxis to the Pfizer/Biontech vaccine as well as the next steps to address it. So far 6 cases of anaphylaxis in 556,000 doses, just under 1 in 92,667 doses or a rate of 0.001 %. I'm sure all the people who have been on here falsely claiming that "99.997%" of people survive from Covid will say the same about the vaccine /sarcasm. The NIH plans to perform a study in high risk individuals to get more information and mitigate the risk. It's important to keep this adverse effect in perspective, 1 in 92,667 is very rare. Anaphylaxis is very treatable. Covid infection is far more deadly to all age groups than a serious but treatable vaccine reaction. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/covid-vaccine-allergic-reactions-study/2020/12/21/e01001d2-431a-11eb-b0e4-0f182923a025_story.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 11 hours ago, RobertSul said: You joined a weather forum and immediately submitted THIS as your very first post, RichardWang1984? Was hoping for some follow up on that. Maybe a link or something. D-luciferin is a real thing... it actually exists. But the odds of it being in the vaccine in that amount, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Apparently this UK covid variant has been there since late September. If that is the case, it is almost assuredly in umpteen other places by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwx Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 On 12/20/2020 at 1:24 PM, Richard Wang said: People who need money. They are paying $700-1500 ea to submit to the vaccine. The moderna vaccine, which was just approved, contains 66.6 milliliters of D-LUCIFERin. What a coinkydink. Yeah, no thanks. Submit to satan or ye shall perish 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Hospitalizations jumped to well over 15k today. California with over 18k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chances14 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 cases continue to drop substantially here in Michigan. I'm really curious about when we could actually start seeing the effect of natural herd immunity starting to affect case numbers in certain areas that were hit hard previously. obviously the amount of actual infections among the general population are far more than what has been reported, especially in the early stages when testing was woefully insufficient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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