IWXwx Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 ...and here you go. https://www.wane.com/news/covid-patient-tells-doctor-all-22-people-at-thanksgiving-dinner-have-since-tested-positive/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestMichigan Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, IWXwx said: ...and here you go. https://www.wane.com/news/covid-patient-tells-doctor-all-22-people-at-thanksgiving-dinner-have-since-tested-positive/ And there were 11 at Thanksgiving where we went and we are all healthy. There are more of those stories than what you are sharing for sure. 1 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 My back yard is currently one of the nation's hottest of hotspots. And the hospitals are almost full. Pretty soon there won't be many available diversion routes. https://www.wfft.com/content/news/Allen-County-ranks-in-top-ten-COVID-19-hot-spots-in-the-United-States-573337761.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Hoosier said: IHME model updated and came in with lower deaths by April 1... now just over 500k. The problem is that current deaths are running above the model projection, so I'm not sure how much stock to put in this run. What's the excess death number at for USA so far this year? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanDe680 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 5 hours ago, fujiwara79 said: we've become a third world country in some respects. not in terms of wealth, but in terms of government and societal dysfunction. we have 3000 people dying per day and slowly heading into a double-dip recession. our government is incapable of addressing the needs of the people. meanwhile, we have a gigantic fundraising scam going on ($500 million dollars and counting) that is completely based on a fake story ("rigged" election). geez, donate your money to a food bank instead. were people this stupid 20 years ago? i'd like to think not, but maybe social media has made stupidity contagious. We are not heading for a double dip recession. Stop the hyperbole. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 I'm still concerned about the logistics. I don't really have the highest degree of confidence in this administration to pull this offRelax dude. I do this for a living, it’s not THAT hard. The companies will do this in collaboration with the government and it’ll have hiccups at first If anything the biggest issue currently is there is basically no contact tracing. I know Apple has it already setup on the phone, but few states have it. It’s absurd how we’re using identical measures to 1918 when we have so much technology on us at all times 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Clause Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Completely out of beds at local hospitals, trying to rearrange just to have non covid emergency and surgery rooms. We’re in very big trouble, overwhelmed with cases coming in like crazy still. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 8 hours ago, fujiwara79 said: we've become a third world country in some respects. not in terms of wealth, but in terms of government and societal dysfunction. we have 3000 people dying per day and slowly heading into a double-dip recession. our government is incapable of addressing the needs of the people. meanwhile, we have a gigantic fundraising scam going on ($500 million dollars and counting) that is completely based on a fake story ("rigged" election). geez, donate your money to a food bank instead. were people this stupid 20 years ago? i'd like to think not, but maybe social media has made stupidity contagious. FACTS!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 2 hours ago, nwohweather said: Relax dude. I do this for a living, it’s not THAT hard. The companies will do this in collaboration with the government and it’ll have hiccups at first If anything the biggest issue currently is there is basically no contact tracing. I know Apple has it already setup on the phone, but few states have it. It’s absurd how we’re using identical measures to 1918 when we have so much technology on us at all times You may do this for a living but I highly doubt you have done it under these circumstances 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fujiwara79 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 2 hours ago, RyanDe680 said: We are not heading for a double dip recession. Stop the hyperbole. I guess most economists are also engaging in hyperbole because they’re worried about the same thing. The economy has slowed down big time since the summer. That’s irrefutable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestMichigan Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 4 hours ago, fujiwara79 said: I guess most economists are also engaging in hyperbole because they’re worried about the same thing. The economy has slowed down big time since the summer. That’s irrefutable. Has it? I am not an economist, but I haven't seen that locally. Maybe you have? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 absolute mashed potato brains^ 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dta1984 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 12 hours ago, Stebo said: You bring up mental health and your reply to someone you are assuming may have an issues is "get some fresh air". How about you get some god damn brains for once. Lol, sad. Man come on, stepping away and getting fresh air is absolutely recommend to help with mental health. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanDe680 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 6 hours ago, fujiwara79 said: I guess most economists are also engaging in hyperbole because they’re worried about the same thing. The economy has slowed down big time since the summer. That’s irrefutable. Then you need to read real economists 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purduewx80 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 1 hour ago, RyanDe680 said: Then you need to read real economists Fox Business good enough for you? News flash: the stock market is not a measure of the economic health of the average American. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestMichigan Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 3 hours ago, A-L-E-K said: absolute mashed potato brains^ Call me what you want. My company has hired 245 people in the last month alone. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fujiwara79 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, WestMichigan said: Call me what you want. My company has hired 245 people in the last month alone. ah yes, you're probably one of those people who thinks "my neighbor is doing great, therefore we can't be in a recession". my company has grown too. doesn't mean the economy hasn't slowed down. our 14 trillion economy isn't represented by your company. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Would not be surprised to see today come in below last Friday case numbers wise. Last Friday was so high partly from clearing Thanksgiving week backlog. Plus cases from Thanksgiving gathering transmission should be mostly reported out already. Nationally we are very close to peak IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Hospitalizations in PA supposedly fell by 200 today. Feels like a bit of a phony drop with cases +35% in last 7 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanDe680 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 2 hours ago, purduewx80 said: Fox Business good enough for you? News flash: the stock market is not a measure of the economic health of the average American. You're right, the market isn't the economic health of the average American. It was never meant to be. And Fox news? That's your source for economic data? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanDe680 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, dan11295 said: Hospitalizations in PA supposedly fell by 200 today. Feels like a bit of a phony drop with cases +35% in last 7 days. PA is out of control. On a population basis it is worse than CA in terms of new cases and deaths. Not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 I'm surprised the data are this strong. But I wonder if there could be sort of selection bias here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dta1984 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 13 hours ago, Angrysummons said: I suspect many people got tested right after Thanksgiving which boosted up normal spread timelines. I predicted this days ago. The Thanksgiving surge already happened. Also boosted all of the false positives.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fujiwara79 Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, dan11295 said: Hospitalizations in PA supposedly fell by 200 today. Feels like a bit of a phony drop with cases +35% in last 7 days. death counts are high there. hospitalization counts tend to flatten off once the death counts get high. sometimes you have other data issues where not all hospitals are reporting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, dta1984 said: Also boosted all of the false positives.. The general nature of the rt pcr sample and test is that there's going to be more false negatives than false positives. https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1808 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 19 minutes ago, RyanDe680 said: You're right, the market isn't the economic health of the average American. It was never meant to be. And Fox news? That's your source for economic data? Would it be really surprising to have a recession given the change in people's buying behaviors, government restrictions and the lack of stimulus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 There was no stopping this thing, gyms reopening here and restaurants! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 1 minute ago, BuffaloWeather said: There was no stopping this thing, gyms reopening here and restaurants! Its interesting data for sure. I'm guessing that all the restrictions in NY at the restaurants and gyms make them relatively safe (they wouldn't be under normal circumstances) whereas you cant do the same deal in the home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, OSUmetstud said: Its interesting data for sure. I'm guessing that all the restrictions in NY at the restaurants and gyms make them relatively safe (they wouldn't be under normal circumstances) whereas you cant do the same deal in the home. I realize there could be local differences, but in general, what is the percentage allowed in restaurants/bars in NY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Hoosier said: I realize there could be local differences, but in general, what is the percentage allowed in restaurants/bars in NY? Richard can comment more on that but i thought it was 25%? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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