Cary67 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 1 hour ago, StormfanaticInd said: Just file a law suit against the lab to overturn the result 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indystorm Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 I lost my biological grandmother at 32 years of age in Pittsburgh in Oct. 1918 to that flu pandemic. As I mentioned pages earlier in this thread John Barry's book "The Great Influenza" is a sobering read with many parallels to what is happening today politically wrt how the disease is being handled or mishandled by authorities. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 2 hours ago, StormfanaticInd said: California has the potential to turn very ugly 10,400 cases reported in LA County today. I know they have 10 million people, but jeez. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, dan11295 said: 10,400 cases reported in LA County today. I know they have 10 million people, but jeez. California has gone nuclear and LA.... NO WORDS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 With California reporting numbers like this we will likely hit 300k this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, StormfanaticInd said: With California reporting numbers like this we will likely hit 300k this week I think that's a bit of an exaggeration. Could see 250k if the holiday spike is bad. But its unclear how much of last week was clearing of backlog. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 23 minutes ago, dan11295 said: I think that's a bit of an exaggeration. Could see 250k if the holiday spike is bad. But its unclear how much of last week was clearing of backlog. We have a couple forces at work this week but I think the holiday spike will take us very close if not to 300k this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 300k seems like a stretch for this week. I do think this week is when we start seeing some 3000+ death days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, Hoosier said: 300k seems like a stretch for this week. I do think this week is when we start seeing some 3000+ death days. With our most populace states spiking right now I believe it is very possible we get close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 I may have missed it if there was a discussion about weather influences on the West coast, but highs in the 70's wouldn't necessarily drive people indoors in LA more than usual. Just pandemic fatigue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanDe680 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 I think that Southern CA definitely has pandemic fatigue. SF numbers aren't that bad but they have been more strict with this throughout according to those i know in the bay area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 California with over 28k cases today. Yikes!!! On a Sunday mind you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Record hospitalizations again today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frog Town Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 51 minutes ago, IWXwx said: I may have missed it if there was a discussion about weather influences on the West coast, but highs in the 70's wouldn't necessarily drive people indoors in LA more than usual. Just pandemic fatigue? What's the climate like in Cali with regards to RH% That seems to be what's increasing case load 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, Frog Town said: What's the climate like in Cali with regards to RH% That seems to be what's increasing case load Pretty windy and dry. URGENT - FIRE WEATHER MESSAGE National Weather Service Los Angeles/Oxnard CA 129 PM PST Sun Dec 6 2020 ...RED FLAG WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 4 AM MONDAY THROUGH 10 PM TUESDAY FOR MUCH OF LOS ANGELES AND VENTURA COUNTIES DUE TO GUSTY NORTHEAST WINDS AND LOW RELATIVE HUMIDITY... ...RED FLAG WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 2 PM MONDAY THROUGH NOON TUESDAY FOR THE SANTA BARBARA AND SAN LUIS OBISPO COUNTY MOUNTAINS, FOOTHILLS, AND COASTAL AREAS AND SANTA YNEZ VALLEY DUE TO GUSTY NORTHEAST TO EAST WINDS AND LOW RELATIVE HUMIDITY... .Another Santa Ana wind event is expected to begin late tonight night and continue through Tuesday evening. The Santa Ana winds are expected to peak in strength and coverage Monday afternoon through Tuesday morning when wind gusts of 40 to 55 mph will be likely for the wind favored coastal and valley areas of Los Angeles and Ventura counties, while damaging gusts of 55 to 70 mph will be possible for the mountains (including the Santa Monicas). Also of note with this upcoming event is the upper level wind support likely bringing unusually strong northeast to east winds across portions of Santa Barbara and San Luis Obispo counties, especially in the mountains and foothills, where wind gusts of 45 to 60 mph will be likely from Monday afternoon through Tuesday morning. While humidities are expected to rise slightly Monday morning, a drying trend is expected Monday afternoon through Tuesday when humidities in the teens and single digits will likely be common. Widespread critical fire weather conditions combined with extremely dry fuels has resulted in Red Flag Warnings for all four counties with this event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaryWarren Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 7 hours ago, Hoosier said: Hopefully the vaccines are rolled out and prioritized the right way. We all remember how pro athletes and other well-connected people had better access to testing early on. Would be even more infuriating if they get to cut in line to get vaccinated. What does your heart tell you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 19 minutes ago, WaryWarren said: What does your heart tell you? Oh I know how it's probably gonna go down. On some level I do understand the concept of having a high profile person getting vaccinated as a play for the greater good, even though it may be better off going to someone else (say if LeBron James were to get vaccinated on camera). I hope we don't see like the entire NBA getting it in January though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardypalmguy Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 I think the current hospitalizations is the last of the Halloween surge. Thanksgiving surge in hospitalizations should really taking off in about 2 weeks Nail on the head here. Gonna get rough quickly. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 3 hours ago, hardypalmguy said: Nail on the head here. Gonna get rough quickly. . As a newscaster said earlier "We are now in covid hell" There is hope with vaccines thankfully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Shore Slop Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 8 hours ago, StormfanaticInd said: Record hospitalizations again today At Mass. General, for example, about 30 percent of COVID patients are at the hospital primarily for some other reason — but also happen to test positive for COVID. They are mostly asymptomatic. https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/12/04/business/massachusetts-hospitals-filling-with-covid-patients-still-have-space-more/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeselandSkies Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 39 minutes ago, South Shore Slop said: At Mass. General, for example, about 30 percent of COVID patients are at the hospital primarily for some other reason — but also happen to test positive for COVID. They are mostly asymptomatic. https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/12/04/business/massachusetts-hospitals-filling-with-covid-patients-still-have-space-more/ That's how my fiance and I found out we had it. It didn't really hit her until the next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 hour ago, South Shore Slop said: At Mass. General, for example, about 30 percent of COVID patients are at the hospital primarily for some other reason — but also happen to test positive for COVID. They are mostly asymptomatic. https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/12/04/business/massachusetts-hospitals-filling-with-covid-patients-still-have-space-more/ Obviously some people will run with this and say the hospitals are fine everywhere and numbers are inflated, etc. ignoring data like dropping available ICU capacity in many states. Also in Mass. in past week Covid ICU is +25% and ventilator use is +26%. While this may indeed cause some inflation of the reported hospital numbers, in reality it is something that is also a marker of increasing community spread ongoing, assuming the criteria for reporting hospitalizations hasn't really changed. The more spread you have the more people getting screened for it while in the hospital for something else will test positive.This would been in line with other metric in the state confirming a spike, like cases, positivity, and wastewater bio data and would be expected IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 https://coronavirus-response-burlingtonvt.hub.arcgis.com/pages/wastewater-monitoring Wastewater in Burlington VT shows a spike in virus levels following Thanksgiving (and VT has very low transmission rates). Monitoring in Metro Boston shows a similar spike (or worse spike in this case). The wastewater data from the Ohio available from their dashboard is unfortunately too delayed to show anything yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fujiwara79 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 6 hours ago, South Shore Slop said: At Mass. General, for example, about 30 percent of COVID patients are at the hospital primarily for some other reason — but also happen to test positive for COVID. They are mostly asymptomatic. If they don't have symptoms of anything, why are they checking into a hospital? People generally don't want to spend the night at a hospital unless they're not feeling well. Perhaps Covid is causing their symptoms or exacerbating them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 17 minutes ago, fujiwara79 said: If they don't have symptoms of anything, why are they checking into a hospital? People generally don't want to spend the night at a hospital unless they're not feeling well. Perhaps Covid is causing their symptoms or exacerbating them They were in the hospital for an unrelated related reason, but got testing upon admission most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Today broke the streak of declining hospitalizations in Indiana. It was +25 though, so not really a huge jump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fujiwara79 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 hour ago, dan11295 said: They were in the hospital for an unrelated related reason, but got testing upon admission most likely. so if they checked into the hospital for blood clots, but they tested positive for Covid upon admission, how do they know Covid didn't cause (or exacerbate) the blood clots? Or if someone with COPD checks into the hospital for shortness of breath, but test positive for Covid upon admission, how do they know Covid wasn't exacerbating their pre-existing lung issues? That's why I don't understand how 30% of Covid hospitalizations are "asymptomatic". They're obviously symptomatic of something -- otherwise they wouldn't be in the hospital. How do they know their symptoms aren't being caused/exacerbated by Covid given that they tested positive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 rt.live has California with the highest Rt value in the country at 1.23. That no workie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 I'm glad to see at least california shut down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 COVID-19 passes heart disease as leading killer in U.S. last week: study https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-covid-heart-disease-leading-killer-20201206-nfuejkbc7rg6fhzhqnmtlycxem-story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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