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jm1220 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 FL lighting up again as expected with restrictions dropping. Over 10k cases today and over 100 deaths. NY is headed up as well. CA over 15k yesterday. As some states in the Midwest subside somewhat other states are surging again, and they’re the big population states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Already at 2000 deaths for today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 11 minutes ago, jm1220 said: FL lighting up again as expected with restrictions dropping. Over 10k cases today and over 100 deaths. NY is headed up as well. CA over 15k yesterday. As some states in the Midwest subside somewhat other states are surging again, and they’re the big population states. California and Texas are off the charts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Angrysummons said: That isn't really that impressive for NYC. They need more upward of 30000. The rate of increase is very impressive. Thats the concern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 12 minutes ago, Angrysummons said: That isn't really that impressive for NYC. They need more upward of 30000. We’ve been fairly careful here-areas of increases but not crazy yet. We can definitely erupt at any time though if people become more lax. Restaurants/bars should close again here IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 14 minutes ago, Angrysummons said: Not really. NYC is huge. I expect cases midmonth to begin dropping again before a final spike in early January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 The real economy is getting absolutely destroyed by this pandemic. If congress does not act soon we are going to have millions homeless in the middle of winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 The 9,855 number wasn't NYC. That's New York STATE. New York state has almost 20 million people. Per capita, things aren't that bad there yet, though parts of the state are doing worse, such as western New York. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, StormfanaticInd said: The real economy is getting absolutely destroyed by this pandemic. If congress does not act soon we are going to have millions homeless in the middle of winter The $900B plan stands a good chance at passing IMO. Not what’s needed but hopefully enough to stave off doom for a few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 minute ago, jm1220 said: The $900B plan stands a good chance at passing IMO. Not what’s needed but hopefully enough to stave off doom for a few months. The senate will most likely block it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 2 hours ago, CoachLB said: Traced back as far as September 2019 for Italy. I'm sure it was in the US in late 2019 as well. I don't think the numbers were large though, because we would've seen a noticeable bump in excess deaths around that time. I saw a good comparison about starting off with a penny and then doubling the amount every day. If you double it, you don't have a whole lot of money for a while, but then the amount really takes off. Similar thing with the virus. It is quite contagious, but it still takes a while to really get seeded in and start to do big damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 44 minutes ago, Angrysummons said: Not really. NYC is huge. I expect cases midmonth to begin dropping again before a final spike in early January. 43 minutes ago, jm1220 said: We’ve been fairly careful here-areas of increases but not crazy yet. We can definitely erupt at any time though if people become more lax. Restaurants/bars should close again here IMO. New York daily cases trend. I think this speaks for itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 19 minutes ago, Angrysummons said: Yes, but they were already low and infections spiked after Thanksgiving................then they will level off and go back down in another week before Christmas. You are not even making any sense. How old are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Here in Mass. the main Sewage Treatment plant for metro Boston keeps track of the amount of SARS-Cov-2 Viral RNA is the wastewater, and the graph just had a major spike. This is through 12-3. That spike is too soon to show up in reporting testing yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Yesterday was adjusted upward on worldometers to 206k cases and 2,875 deaths. There were about 2,977 people killed in the 9/11 attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 31 minutes ago, Angrysummons said: I don't see the doom, sorry. Restrictions look done by April and private business is planning on ramping up services and production the 2nd quarter of the year. Fear mongering by economists is already wrong and 7 trillion dollars has been created both by government and private banking since April. If that's even accurate (which I doubt), the reason is because the Federal government propped up the economy with $2.59 trillion as of September 1st. Without further bailout money being appropriated soon, you're going to audibly hear the flushing sound as the economy goes down the toilet. EDIT: Oh, and here's the link to this factual data. https://datalab.usaspending.gov/federal-covid-funding/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snownado Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, Hoosier said: Yesterday was adjusted upward on worldometers to 206k cases and 2,875 deaths. There were about 2,977 people killed in the 9/11 attacks. I never understood why people compare this to 9/11. Two totally different circumstances. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Just now, Snownado said: I never understood why people compare this to 9/11. Two totally different circumstances. For perspective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 I give up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 minute ago, IWXwx said: I give up. Lol. I feel your pain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Just now, IWXwx said: I give up. He has all the answers, just like in weather threads. How dare anyone present actual evidence. Fact is that right now the only thing stopping this economy from going straight off a cliff is feds funding and a moratorium on foreclosures. What he doesn't understand is when that moratorium comes up all these businesses will go under without help, no one can afford the rent because they don't own the property the business operates from. This is across the board and no one seems to want to do anything, if anything they are purposely letting these deadlines go knowing that the hands change in January in Washington. It is 100% a political ploy at the expense of the people. Support for the CARES act was over 70% in May, and the support for an extension in the summer was at least 70%, so who are these people in Washington representing, certainly not their constituents. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Just now, Angrysummons said: My evidence is working in business. His evidence is a economist who mumbling a lot. 7 trillion dollars of money creation is going too make it easy for businesses to run up debt themselves, causing a boom in growth in the short run, which leads to faulty lending and over investment. That pushes up inflation and eventually commodities as liquidity seeps………..it takes time. You have to plan long term folks. One of these days, the world isn't going to bail out a US debt bubble and the currency will collapse. Pushing for trillions in more "stimulus" is just kicking the can up several years to currency collapse and permanent loss of income. The world has changed. We have 3 major power blocs and they all want reserve currency status. Especially(East) Asia, who will depeg in a moments notice. This is a lot of words to say nothing. Planning long term, yeah because people saw a crippling pandemic coming. Man you should just stop while you are severely behind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, Angrysummons said: Why even debate with you???? You don't listen, you just barrage emotional garbage like Trump supporters. The irony of you saying this when you post empty nonsense all day long. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Looks like we are going to easily break another cases record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaryWarren Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 26 minutes ago, Stebo said: Support for the CARES act was over 70% in May, and the support for an extension in the summer was at least 70%, so who are these people in Washington representing, certainly not their constituents. The system works! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 12 minutes ago, StormfanaticInd said: Looks like we are going to easily break another cases record Agree. Probably heading over 210k and maybe a shot at 215k or more on worldometers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Even Colorado is coming in heavy. Over 6000 cases and 127 deaths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Hoosier said: Agree. Probably heading over 210k and maybe a shot at 215k or more on worldometers. 200k cases per day might become the new norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 53 minutes ago, Snownado said: I never understood why people compare this to 9/11. Two totally different circumstances. Yes, but the commonality is lots of deaths in a day. A counterpoint may be that it was mostly working age people who died on 9/11 and that it's mostly older people now. I don't have the numbers in front of me but if we only look at deaths under 65, I'd bet that this has resulted in many tens of thousands of deaths. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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