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Ohio was not impacted as much as nearby states (IL/MI/PA) in the spring, probably due to Cleveland not being as much of a travel hub as Detroit and Chicago, and the PA cases were mostly in the eastern part of the state. They never had more than 1100 hospitalized in spring or summer. They have 4500 now and rising.

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Roughly 1 American every minute is dying of this thing. It's causing the equivalent of a 9/11 or Hurricane Katrina every 2-3 days.

bUT IT haS a 99.5$ survIval RAtE...

The problem is, when you have such an enormous number of cases, 0.5% of that is still a big number. That (plus the several more percent who get severely ill but survive) is also more than enough to burn out every ICU doctor and nurse in the country.

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Whats sad is this pandemic is so easy to control. We just need need a willing government and people 

I wouldn’t say a highly contagious illness that spreads before people have symptoms is easy to control.

I’ve said it a thousand times, have to close factories down to beat this thing down. All companies are doing is saying they’re part of the “supply chain” to remain open as an essential business.

My dad’s work has an outbreak occurring on the floor. How laminated labels for beers is an essential business is beyond me. If you’re going to be working 8-10 hours indoors along side other people, it’s gonna spread
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8 minutes ago, Stebo said:

 

That and closing bars. Both are massive contributors.

Honestly, 10 days seems kind of quick to see it reflected in the case numbers.  Get exposed, become symptomatic, get tested, get the results back is often going to take more than 10 days.  If anything, I'd pin it more on the period of warm weather earlier this month, but it's hard to say for sure because everybody in the Midwest was warm but the cases haven't dropped everywhere.

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That's a huge percentage of non contagious positive tests

"Public health experts throughout the U.S. are raising concerns that "standard [COVID-19] tests are diagnosing huge numbers of people who may be carrying relatively insignificant amounts of the virus," the New York Times reported on Saturday. A significant majority of the individuals who test positive "are not likely to be contagious," the paper says. "

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/report-90-covid-19-cases-might-not-be-contagious

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1 hour ago, dta1984 said:

That's a huge percentage of non contagious positive tests

"Public health experts throughout the U.S. are raising concerns that "standard [COVID-19] tests are diagnosing huge numbers of people who may be carrying relatively insignificant amounts of the virus," the New York Times reported on Saturday. A significant majority of the individuals who test positive "are not likely to be contagious," the paper says. "

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/report-90-covid-19-cases-might-not-be-contagious

Certainly explains the increase in hospitalizations then :blahblah:

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A survey was done about peoples plans for Thanksgiving.  3 states in/near this sub -- Iowa, Indiana, Missouri -- had over 30% of respondents say they plan on being with people outside of their household. 

It was noted that all of these percentages may be an underestimate though because some people may have been too shy to say that they planned to spend this holiday with people from other households. 

State by state data here:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/24/upshot/thanksgiving-dinner-survey.html

 

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