Hoosier Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Malacka11 said: If any of you seriously believes that this is gonna stabilize after Thanksgiving, you gotta put down the crack pipe. Christmas and New Years are gonna be one hell of a combo. The way I see it -and I really don't want to be a doomer- at least a third of this country gives no fucks about Covid, at least from a "fear" stand point. The rampant infection that will occur within that segment of the population alone during the holidays well prevent this shit from stabilizing. Certainly the potential to get even worse with Christmas and New Years, but let's see what happens in the next month. There may be enough people who are scared to leave home by then, especially in areas where the pandemic is really raging right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 I haven't dined inside a restaurant since March 16, 2020. I even remember the date. I honestly don't even miss it that much. I've done plenty of takeout though.I give you credit. One of my buddies in Ann Arbor was telling me he supports the closure of bars but goes to Grizzly Peak twice a week. Haha it’s like people like him who frequent these establishments are helping spread it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 America is not giving up Thanksgiving gatherings. Its just not going to happen unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dan11295 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 New cases look to be lower today than yesterday by a decent number. Not sure how much to read into that. If we (hopefully) have a muted case jump tomorrow could potentially be a sign of a start of leveling off of cases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwx Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, dan11295 said: New cases look to be lower today than yesterday by a decent number. Not sure how much to read into that. If we (hopefully) have a muted case jump tomorrow could potentially be a sign of a start of leveling off of cases I doubt that, most states are on the upswing in cases besides the Dakotas and maybe Wisconsin. Also we are still waiting on a few more states to drop today, including part of california, kansas and nebraska Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Total hospitalized 76,830 (+3816) that's a steep increase. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, dan11295 said: Total hospitalized 76,830 (+3816) that's a steep increase. This is the real number to pay attention to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 40 minutes ago, dan11295 said: New cases look to be lower today than yesterday by a decent number. Not sure how much to read into that. If we (hopefully) have a muted case jump tomorrow could potentially be a sign of a start of leveling off of cases Positivity rates are up though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 The numbers are still very bad folks. These numbers will translate to higher deaths soon unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Clause Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Probably going to top out around where we’re at on cases a day just to testing capacity reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Covid Tracking had about 149k yesterday and 155k today. That site typically runs lower than worldometers. Worldometers had 162k yesterday and 156k and growing so far today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Got a kick out of this 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 By using Covid Tracking Project to compare hospitalization and case metrics from a few different states. specifically PA, IL & NJ I think there is very strong evidence that we were catching ~25% of cases in April compared to now with some rough math. In April IL had 2500 cases=5000 hospital. Now now its roughly 12,000 cases=5800 hospital PA is equal to April Hospital peak now with ~4x as many cases. (1500 vs 6000) NJ is equal to their April case peak ~4,000 cases, but 2,000 hospitalizations now vs 8000 in April That would mean we would be reporting ~120,000 cases/day at April peak with today's testing. almost 40,000 of those in NY at peak. This also implies the mortality rate hasn't dropped THAT much, maybe from ~2.0-2.5% CFR to 1.5-1.7% CFR based on today's testing Also shows how much harder New York and New Jersey in particular were hit compared to any other state in the spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Was inside my sister's house today for the first time in 8 months. Spent 3 hours there and never took off the mask. I actually wore 2 masks... a disposable and my other one that I wear regularly lol. As I've mentioned before, she is not great with being careful. She will wear a mask in public when she has to but frequently dines in at restaurants and occasionally goes to bars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 More mitigation measures going into effect in Illinois later this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 IN governor under quarantine after several security members tested positive. https://www.wthr.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/gov-eric-holcomb-and-first-lady-under-quarantine/531-11932a36-1537-4a2f-91ee-9924b76cd6ee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Vaccines might start being administered before November is over? https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-11-17/pfizer-is-preparing-to-file-for-emergency-use-authorization-for-its-coronavirus-vaccine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said: Vaccines might start being administered before November is over? https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-11-17/pfizer-is-preparing-to-file-for-emergency-use-authorization-for-its-coronavirus-vaccine Has to go through FDA. I'm not sure how long the process takes but it is only 2 weeks until December, so it may be a stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Has anyone been able to find any information about how much protection may occur after just the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Distribution of this vaccine that has to be kept at-95 degrees could be a nightmare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanDe680 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 7 hours ago, Hoosier said: Has anyone been able to find any information about how much protection may occur after just the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine? From what I have read, it isn't enough protection, thus the booster after 3 weeks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 I imagine we might be coming close to testing capacity limits. Labs can only process so many tests. the Wisconsin dashboard shows approximate testing capacity and shows last week they were bumping against the limit, although it also shows capacity being expanded. A quick google search also shows stories about wait times getting longer for testing in many states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 After further review Pfizer vaccine is 95% effective. Pfizer and BioNTech say final analysis shows coronavirus vaccine is 95% effective with no safety concerns https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/18/health/pfizer-coronavirus-vaccine-safety/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 2 hours ago, BuffaloWeather said: After further review Pfizer vaccine is 95% effective. Pfizer and BioNTech say final analysis shows coronavirus vaccine is 95% effective with no safety concerns https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/18/health/pfizer-coronavirus-vaccine-safety/index.html One thing mentioned in there is the breakdown of severe covid-19 illnesses, which was something I was wondering. You would think that if you receive the vaccine and still develop covid-19, it would be milder, but it's not necessarily clear yet based on that data. In the placebo group, 9/162 developed severe covid-19 (5.6%) while the vaccinated group was 1/8 (12.5%). The vaccine appears to be great at reducing the raw numbers/burden of disease, but I guess we need more time to determine whether it makes a person less likely to become severely ill should they contract covid-19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Test came back negative for me, took 3 days to get results. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 More counties in the red in Indiana, which signifies worst level of spread. Also hospitalizations have surpassed 3000. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Already over 500 deaths today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 How are they going to keep that vaccine that cold(-95). Seems like a logistical nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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