IWXwx Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Well, the overflow in rural hospitals has begun in this area. A friend who is the the head of safety at the local hospital called our Agency Friday about accessing some dividers. Tomorrow I'm going to help him move some beds from the nursing school at the local university to the hospital to squeeze in more patients. And this is just the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, IWXwx said: Well, the overflow in rural hospitals has begun in this area. A friend who is the the head of safety at the local hospital called our Agency Friday about accessing some dividers. Tomorrow I'm going to help him move some beds from the nursing school at the local university to the hospital to squeeze in more patients. And this is just the beginning. Hospitalizations were +190 in IN +300 in IL today, not great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Its shameful that there is no stimulus right now 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chances14 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Whitmer claims that bars and restaurants are an easy target for covid spread, yet the health departments own data doesn't support it. Hair salons were one of the last to open in the last shutdown claiming easy covid spread, yet they are allowed to be open this time around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwx Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 cases down vs. the same day last week for the first time in a long time in WI. Hospitalizations still up 180 and a record 92 deaths today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frog Town Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Angrysummons said: Don't need stimulus. Current restrictions are working and it looks like hospitalizations will stabilize by early December. Listen, I am hardly a big capitalist, but the system is over inflated with dollars right now and China is kicking US butt globally. Not a good combination. Who gives a &$%# about China right now. This isn't race for Pete's sake, it's rent, mortgage, food on the table for people that are out of work not by their actions or choosing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, Angrysummons said: Don't need stimulus. Current restrictions are working and it looks like hospitalizations will stabilize by early December. Listen, I am hardly a big capitalist, but the system is over inflated with dollars right now and China is kicking US butt globally. Not a good combination. Hospitalizations will stabilize by early December??? What are you smoking? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Angrysummons said: Between fear and restrictions, case growth is slowing. It will probably peak in the low 200,000's by late November and wiggle there through January. Hospitalizations lag cases, deaths lag hospitalizations. Hospitalizations will skyrocket even more in December Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, Frog Town said: Who gives a &$%# about China right now. This isn't race for Pete's sake, it's rent, mortgage, food on the table for people that are out of work not by their actions or choosing. On 10/16/2020 at 11:46 AM, A-L-E-K said: we live amongst straight up sociopaths it's an important lesson to learn if you haven't already [tone sincere] 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, Angrysummons said: They have already skyrocketed. By early December they will peak. You are just going to totally ignore the pending Thanksgiving disaster. Lol smh You are f**ing crazy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Hope everyone secured enough fine pelts to survive the winter 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frog Town Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Deaths will be terrible today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dta1984 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Lol Ohio now has a curfew, but with a ton of exceptions (groceries, food, gas, work etc). Makes little sense. No parties I suppose.. Corona is out to get you past 10pm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Clause Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Already 1000 deaths at 3pm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMB WX Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Cases seem to be down today(testing?) but deaths are up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillsdaleMIWeather Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Michigan is way up this Tuesday compared to last Tuesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 27 minutes ago, StormfanaticInd said: Cases seem to be down today(testing?) but deaths are up Might be a sign that transmission rates are stabilizing a bit in some areas (hopefully) WI/IL had similar case numbers to last Tuesday. Ohio didn't jump from Monday to Tuesday like past two weeks. MI/IN still showed increases. One day does not make a trend, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malacka11 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 If any of you seriously believes that this is gonna stabilize after Thanksgiving, you gotta put down the crack pipe. Christmas and New Years are gonna be one hell of a combo. The way I see it -and I really don't want to be a doomer- at least a third of this country gives no fucks about Covid, at least from a "fear" stand point. The rampant infection that will occur within that segment of the population alone during the holidays well prevent this shit from stabilizing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwx Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/17/health/coronavirus-immunity.html Good news today, study shows that immunity can last for many years for 90% of patients. Obviously contradicts some of the other things we have heard but falls in line with the idea that rapid reinfections are a small minority of cases 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Just now, madwx said: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/17/health/coronavirus-immunity.html Good news today, study shows that immunity can last for many years for 90% of patients. Obviously contradicts some of the other things we have heard but falls in line with the idea that rapid reinfections are a small minority of cases Between this news and the 95% efficacy Moderna vaccine we should be near the end of this by next summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverted_Trough Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 The midwest might peak in December, but the Northeast and the southern states probably won't peak until January or February. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Whitmer claims that bars and restaurants are an easy target for covid spread, yet the health departments own data doesn't support it. Hair salons were one of the last to open in the last shutdown claiming easy covid spread, yet they are allowed to be open this time aroundYet so many on this board are about the closings. I’d venture to say many of the same people advocating this have been to bars and restaurants multiple times 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverted_Trough Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Angrysummons said: Don't need stimulus. Current restrictions are working and it looks like hospitalizations will stabilize by early December. Listen, I am hardly a big capitalist, but the system is over inflated with dollars right now and China is kicking US butt globally. Not a good combination. There is plenty of money in the system, but the problem is that, the way it's distributed, we're heading for a K-shaped recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverted_Trough Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, nwohweather said: Yet so many on this board are about the closings. I’d venture to say many of the same people advocating this have been to bars and restaurants multiple times I haven't dined inside a restaurant since March 16, 2020. I even remember the date. I honestly don't even miss it that much. I've done plenty of takeout though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 America is doing so bad right now you could chop our cases in half and it would still be dire 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purduewx80 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, nwohweather said: Yet so many on this board are about the closings. I’d venture to say many of the same people advocating this have been to bars and restaurants multiple times I’ve dined out zero times in NYC and Chicago since the pandemic started, already had COVID, but have supported local businesses countless times by ordering take-out or delivery. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, nwohweather said: Yet so many on this board are about the closings. I’d venture to say many of the same people advocating this have been to bars and restaurants multiple times I absolutely hate lockdowns but I believe its the right thing to do 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverted_Trough Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 hours ago, chances14 said: Whitmer claims that bars and restaurants are an easy target for covid spread, yet the health departments own data doesn't support it. Hair salons were one of the last to open in the last shutdown claiming easy covid spread, yet they are allowed to be open this time around I don't know anything about their health department, but restaurants and especially bars have been known as big spreaders. Many clusters have been traced back to bars and restaurants. In fact bars likely drove the summer wave. After Arizona closed gyms over the summer, their hospitalizations decreased rapidly. Much more rapidly than they did in Texas or Florida. So there is some thought that gyms are significant contributors as well. Once you pick up the infection, though, it largely propagates through home gatherings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, Inverted_Trough said: I don't know anything about their health department, but restaurants and especially bars have been known as big spreaders. Many clusters have been traced back to bars and restaurants. In fact bars likely drove the summer wave. After Arizona closed gyms over the summer, their hospitalizations decreased rapidly. Much more rapidly than they did in Texas or Florida. So there is some thought that gyms are significant contributors as well. Once you pick up the infection, though, it largely propagates through home gatherings. Yeah I was just coming to post the same especially with respect to bars. I'd love to see this data that says otherwise. Let's be real bars breed carelessness, it shouldn't shock anyone that they are superspreaders especially now that everything is exclusively indoors. Restaurants are also an issue when they pack the places. 19 minutes ago, purduewx80 said: I’ve dined out zero times in NYC and Chicago since the pandemic started, already had COVID, but have supported local businesses countless times by ordering take-out or delivery. Dined out 2 times since things reopened in May both places were rural areas and during the summer, that said carry out and delivery has been the way to go for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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