BuffaloWeather Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 47 minutes ago, Stebo said: Maybe we shouldn't be evicting people in the middle of a pandemic especially as we go into winter. I won't even touch that last one. Maybe people could go to the utopia of SC though where everything is magical. NYS has this in effect, my dads tenants haven't paid rent since March. The 3 month mortgage deferral most banks offered is now gone. He's owed over 10k in backed rent that he will never get back. My wife also lost her job because of this as she worked in mortgage default. Her 250 employee law firm closed because of this deferral. What's the solution to this? The $600 extra UI ran out July 31st, now the max is $504 in New York. That isn't enough to pay for a studio apartment in NYC. Beds Bot 25% Median Top 25% Studio $2,300 $2,595 $2,950 1BR $2,650 $3,150 $3,550 2BR $3,100 $3,600 $4,696 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Just now, BuffaloWeather said: NYS has this in effect, my dads tenants haven't paid rent since March. The 3 month mortgage deferral most banks offered is now gone. He's owed over 10k in backed rent that he will never get back. My wife also lost her job because of this as she worked in mortgage default. 250 employee law firm closed because of this deferral. What's the solution to this? Funding from the government to at least cover rent and mortgages. It is the only way, if we can spend a couple trillion keeping businesses open we can do the same so people don't lose their houses and have no where to go. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Just now, Stebo said: Funding from the government to at least cover rent and mortgages. It is the only way, if we can spend a couple trillion keeping businesses open we can do the same so people don't lose their houses and have no where to go. I agree with this, but it isn't happening. Especially so with Trump losing the election. We have to wait until Jan 20th and then if the Dems lose the senate, nothing is going to get passed...The American people are suffering... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Just now, BuffaloWeather said: I agree with this, but it isn't happening. Especially so with Trump losing the election. We have to wait until Jan 20th and then if the Dems lose the senate, nothing is going to get passed...The American people are suffering... Yeah, not to get too political but there have been stimulus after stimulus passed in the house some even bipartisan and support from the White House. There is an obvious blockage and that isn't going away I fear. One side of the fence at least views this as a serious problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Stebo said: Yeah, not to get too political but there have been stimulus after stimulus passed in the house some even bipartisan and support from the White House. There is an obvious blockage and that isn't going away I fear. One side of the fence at least views this as a serious problem. There are a lot of people that work in mortgage default in New York State. The deferral has costs tens of thousands of jobs. I added to my post, max UI in NYS is $504. After taxes you're at $400 a week. That isn't enough money to even share a room in NYC. Cuomo has already started shutting things down again this week...Talks of April like shutdowns coming soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 NYS has this in effect, my dads tenants haven't paid rent since March. The 3 month mortgage deferral most banks offered is now gone. He's owed over 10k in backed rent that he will never get back. My wife also lost her job because of this as she worked in mortgage default. Her 250 employee law firm closed because of this deferral. What's the solution to this? The $600 extra UI ran out July 31st, now the max is $504 in New York. That isn't enough to pay for a studio apartment in NYC. Beds Bot 25% Median Top 25% Studio $2,300 $2,595 $2,950 1BR $2,650 $3,150 $3,550 2BR $3,100 $3,600 $4,696 Well liberals will say spend trillions more. Problem is read any serious paper, states are running out of money FAST. My company is worried about the lack of money available for infrastructure projects as the government continues to shell out absurd gobs of money with their tax revenues declining due to this. What happens when the dust settles? We’re going to have to raise interest rates and taxes considerably on all people to make up for the extreme level of government spending to get through this pandemic. Can’t throw away the entire 2020’s for this 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said: There are a lot of people that work in mortgage default in New York State. The deferral has costs tens of thousands of jobs. I added to my post, max UI in NYS is $504. After taxes you're at $400 a week. That isn't enough money to even share a room in NYC. Cuomo has already started shutting things down again this week...Talks of April like shutdowns coming soon... I get that but the problem is the alternative is people out on the streets by the thousands, we literally can't have that in the middle of a pandemic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mississaugasnow Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 15 minutes ago, nwohweather said: Well liberals will say spend trillions more. Problem is read any serious paper, states are running out of money FAST. My company is worried about the lack of money available for infrastructure projects as the government continues to shell out absurd gobs of money with their tax revenues declining due to this. What happens when the dust settles? We’re going to have to raise interest rates and taxes considerably on all people to make up for the extreme level of government spending to get through this pandemic. Can’t throw away the entire 2020’s for this Pretty sure the 20s are gone. It took over 4-6 years to claw back to normalcy after the 07-08 crisis. You seem very capitalist and nothing wrong with that, but my issue is this. In Ontario small businesses said "please government get out of the way and let us open" while at the same time lobbying the federal government for payroll subsidies/tax deferral/an assortment of goodies. Thats straight up socialism. My mindset is to have the government spend its way out of this but I also think businesses can't have it both ways. You want to be open then Bleep off with asking for help from the government. In case there's any misconstruing what I mean. The government should shut it down and support the businesses and individuals impacted. health comes first. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Though far from the norm, stories like this are scary. 38 year old guy died at home 3 days after being diagnosed. Iowa teacher dies 3 days after testing positive for COVID-19 BELMOND, Iowa — The Belmond-Klemme Community School District is mourning the loss of a beloved teacher. Jason Englert's family said he tested positive for coronavirus three days before he died. The 38-year-old teacher was found dead inside his home on Nov. 8. https://www.kcci.com/amp/article/iowa-teacher-dies-3-days-after-testing-positive-for-covid-19/34648767 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Yeah we can't have a homeless crisis in the winter in the middle of the worst pandemic in a 100 years. Homeless shelters would then become the perfect breeding ground for super outbreaks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snownado Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 I go to CNN's web page and the front page is all about the election. Someone needs to remind them that there's a virus out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Remember the Halloween spike starts this weekend. Its only going to get worse folks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 You want terrifying here you go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Hoosier really lost control in here huh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dta1984 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 5 hours ago, Stebo said: You want terrifying here you go About to get a big spike is positive results with all of that testing. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 6 hours ago, StormfanaticInd said: Remember the Halloween spike starts this weekend. Its only going to get worse folks How long is average time between exposure and cases being reported? My guess is 10-14 days. So next 2-3 days would be that time frame 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 15 minutes ago, dan11295 said: How long is average time between exposure and cases being reported? My guess is 10-14 days. So next 2-3 days would be that time frame There's no "spiking" it's just consistent exponential growth. Like, you can't see individual events or holidays leading to these great surges, at least right now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purduewx80 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 9 hours ago, Snownado said: I go to CNN's web page and the front page is all about the election. Someone needs to remind them that there's a virus out there. Gosh, they must’ve heard you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Interesting the interior Southeast has had lowest overall Rt. I am guessing that's due to less indoor gatherings compared to other states which have experienced cooler weather already. But clearly temperature isn't everything. Southern California (until last 2-3 day), Arizona & Florida are rising again, and haven't experienced cold weather. Also MS, GA have rising hospital/case numbers now so they are clearly have Rt>1.0 now too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purduewx80 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, dan11295 said: Interesting the interior Southeast has had lowest overall Rt. I am guessing that's due to less indoor gatherings compared to other states which have experienced cooler weather already. But clearly temperature isn't everything. Southern California (until last 2-3 day), Arizona & Florida are rising again, and haven't experienced cold weather. Also MS, GA have rising hospital/case numbers now so they are clearly have Rt>1.0 now too. Likely can be attributed to a decrease in sunlight/UV radiation. “We found that ultraviolet light was most strongly associated with lower COVID-19 growth rates. Projections suggest that, in the absence of intervention, COVID-19 will decrease temporarily during summer, rebound by autumn, and peak next winter.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Another day another record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluoronium Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Unchecked exponential growth going on for weeks now. I don't know why I am shocked at this point. It's crazy knowing that this virus is going to burn through most people I know and there's nothing I can do about it. I was on a walk a few nights ago when it was still warm out and I saw my neighbor get carried away in a stretcher. He's dead now. I have yet to hear whether it was coronavirus related or not, but I would be surprised if it wasn't at this point. I had just seen him walking dogs a few weeks ago. These next few months are going to be a dark time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILSNOW Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 12,702 new cases in IL with 43 additional deaths. A new record for the 3rd consecutive day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 4 hours ago, purduewx80 said: Likely can be attributed to a decrease in sunlight/UV radiation. “We found that ultraviolet light was most strongly associated with lower COVID-19 growth rates. Projections suggest that, in the absence of intervention, COVID-19 will decrease temporarily during summer, rebound by autumn, and peak next winter.” Makes you wonder if an outdoor gathering in fall has higher risk than the same outdoor gathering in summer, simply due to less UV. Obviously much better than having one indoors though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Indianapolis starting to lock back down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, StormfanaticInd said: Indianapolis starting to lock back down There are areas of the state that actually have worse spread than them on a per capita basis. But I guess you have to be a little more careful in more populated areas since the potential ceiling on growth is so high. Here are the changes for Indianapolis. Besides this, schools are also going virtual. The following changes go into effect Monday, Nov. 16: Indoor capacity will be reduced to 25 percent for bars and entertainment venues, although outdoor capacity will continue to be allowed up to 100 percent. Restaurant capacity will remain at 50 percent indoors with outdoor capacity at 100 percent. Self-service buffets and salad bars are banned. Karaoke is banned. Maximum party size at tables, restaurants and bars is reduced to six people. The midnight closure requirement that previously applied to bars, restaurants and clubs will now be extended to all non-essential hospitality and entertainment businesses, including live entertainment venues. Special or seasonal events, such as fairs, concerts, movie screenings, weddings, sporting events, are now limited to 25 percent of the venue's capacity. They may include more than 50 people only if the event has an approved safety plan from the Marion County Public Health Department. This is a reduction from the current 250 person limit. Religious centers are limited to 75 percent capacity. Cultural venues, music venues, museums, tourism sites and other non-essential tourism venues are reduced to 25 percent capacity. Gyms and fitness centers, as well as private clubs and fraternal organizations, are reduced to 25 percent indoor capacity. Marion County will now require a negative COVID-19 test within 72 hours for a visit to any long-term care facility. https://www.wthr.com/amp/article/news/health/indiana-coronavirus-updates-for-thursday-november-12-2020/531-c778ffae-5ee5-483c-88c2-5d4562225cbe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanDe680 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 I'm not really sure what this is going to accomplish.... CHICAGO — Mayor Lori Lightfoot on Thursday announced a "stay-at-home" advisory — not an order — for 30 days in response to spiking coronavirus cases. The city's advisory takes effect at 6 a.m. Monday. Lightfoot said gatherings will be limited to 10 people. The advisory includes: Do not have gatherings in your home with anybody outside of your household (except for essential staff such as home health care workers or educators), even with trusted family or friends. Avoid all non-essential, out-of-state travel; if travel is essential, quarantining or testing negative prior to travel is required, depending on which state a traveler is originating from. Comply with City and State Orders, including wearing face coverings, limiting gatherings, and mandating early closure of non-essential businesses at 11pm. Practice social distancing and avoid touching surfaces frequently touched by others if you go outside to get fresh air. Use remote modes of communication like phone or video chat instead of visiting friends or family, especially on holidays such as Thanksgiving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Looking like another record breaking day. Could see 150k+ today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Clause Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Local hospitals here even in middle of nowhere PA, are quickly becoming strained with new covid patients. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 16 minutes ago, RyanDe680 said: I'm not really sure what this is going to accomplish.... CHICAGO — Mayor Lori Lightfoot on Thursday announced a "stay-at-home" advisory — not an order — for 30 days in response to spiking coronavirus cases. The city's advisory takes effect at 6 a.m. Monday. Lightfoot said gatherings will be limited to 10 people. The advisory includes: Do not have gatherings in your home with anybody outside of your household (except for essential staff such as home health care workers or educators), even with trusted family or friends. Avoid all non-essential, out-of-state travel; if travel is essential, quarantining or testing negative prior to travel is required, depending on which state a traveler is originating from. Comply with City and State Orders, including wearing face coverings, limiting gatherings, and mandating early closure of non-essential businesses at 11pm. Practice social distancing and avoid touching surfaces frequently touched by others if you go outside to get fresh air. Use remote modes of communication like phone or video chat instead of visiting friends or family, especially on holidays such as Thanksgiving. Could've waited for the new IHME update, which could be any time now. It's like not waiting for the Euro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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