StormfanaticInd Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 38 minutes ago, Hoosier said: Maybe. Should be in the mid to upper 80,000s at least as several states have yet to report and some states do multiple data dumps per day (i.e. California) We are at 80k with 3 hours to go of reporting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, StormfanaticInd said: We are at 80k with 3 hours to go of reporting If tomorrow follows the trend of other Fridays, it will be well over 90k tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Staring down the barrel of 100k cases. If it doesn't happen tomorrow, it will be by late next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoboy645 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hoosier said: Staring down the barrel of 100k cases. If it doesn't happen tomorrow, it will be by late next week. 10 bucks its Tuesday to really add insult to injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, Hoosier said: Staring down the barrel of 100k cases. If it doesn't happen tomorrow, it will be by late next week. Last four Fridays: 52k, 61k, 71k, 81k. Not quite a steep as slope as the summer spike. Big difference are we are already above the summer spike peak numbers now, it is much more spread out throughout the entire country, and we are heading toward winter which is more conductive to viral transmission due to more people gathering indoors, colder/drier air in general etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Said it before and I know it is a bit macabre, but I think we need to spike this as much as possible prior to Thanksgiving. Scare as many people as possible into not holding gatherings, especially larger ones. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 The same idea came out of CDC's MMWR. We are all interconnected. The virus finds it way into the vulnerable even now even after how much we've supposedly learned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 A new record today and counting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 JUST WOW!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, StormfanaticInd said: JUST WOW!!! Also of note 33 states over a 1000! Smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Clause Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 In all honesty this has been worse than I even imagined. We’re easily going to surpass 400k dead by end of winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 IHME model updated. Even with "universal" mask use (which is considered 95%), it has between 1000-1300 deaths per day from November through January. And we are nowhere near 95% on a nationwide level. This is not to bash mask use whatsoever. It just shows what we're up against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 A respiratory therapist friend of mine posted this on her Facebook page. She said that the burnout factor in hospitals will be severe if the numbers continue to climb like they have recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Hoosier said: Said it before and I know it is a bit macabre, but I think we need to spike this as much as possible prior to Thanksgiving. Scare as many people as possible into not holding gatherings, especially larger ones. The large gatherings are already taking place. The polling place I went to at Town Hall had hundreds of people in line through small corridors all tightly packed together. Far more people are congregated together in voting right now then will be at thanksgiving. Everyone in line was talking about how many Covid violations are being made the entire 30 minute wait to vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said: The large gatherings are already taking place. The polling place I went to at Town Hall had hundreds of people in line through small corridors all tightly packed together. Far more people are congregated together in voting right now then will be at thanksgiving. Everyone in line was talking about how many Covid violations are being made the entire 30 minute wait to vote. I've been wondering about the impact that voting could have on spreading the virus. That is a bit of a tricky thing to figure out though. I early voted and was in and out. Everyone I saw was wearing a mask. The holiday gatherings are sort of like being in a restaurant or bar in that you have to take your mask off at some point. I question whether many people would wear a mask to their holiday gatherings to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 30 minutes ago, Hoosier said: I've been wondering about the impact that voting could have on spreading the virus. That is a bit of a tricky thing to figure out though. I early voted and was in and out. Everyone I saw was wearing a mask. The holiday gatherings are sort of like being in a restaurant or bar in that you have to take your mask off at some point. I question whether many people would wear a mask to their holiday gatherings to begin with. Everyone was wearing a mask in line but no one was 6 feet apart. This article explains how wearing a mask inside does limit spread, but it will still infect at least a few in an environment of long term close contact inside. https://english.elpais.com/society/2020-10-28/a-room-a-bar-and-a-class-how-the-coronavirus-is-spread-through-the-air.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanDe680 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Wmsptwx said: In all honesty this has been worse than I even imagined. We’re easily going to surpass 400k dead by end of winter. Yeah but to a few that’s just fat people right? Forget that their lives matter, along with all the lives of those caring for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 26 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said: Everyone was wearing a mask in line but no one was 6 feet apart. This article explains how wearing a mask inside does limit spread, but it will still infect at least a few in an environment of long term close contact inside. https://english.elpais.com/society/2020-10-28/a-room-a-bar-and-a-class-how-the-coronavirus-is-spread-through-the-air.html Nice link showing various scenarios. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaryWarren Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Most of our subforum is not faring well, but almost all of the southern 2/3s of Wisconsin with over 56 per 100,000 daily cases, wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cary67 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 10 hours ago, Hoosier said: I've been wondering about the impact that voting could have on spreading the virus. That is a bit of a tricky thing to figure out though. I early voted and was in and out. Everyone I saw was wearing a mask. The holiday gatherings are sort of like being in a restaurant or bar in that you have to take your mask off at some point. I question whether many people would wear a mask to their holiday gatherings to begin with. At this point I am not sure the mitigation restrictions of banning indoor dining/bar service etc will reverse this trend. The behavior of the population I think has been pretty stable the last several months. A segment follows all the protocols, another follows protocols but cheats based on activities important to them. ie indoor dining, having private gatherings etc. Finally another segment that thinks its nonsense and no worse than the flu. The seasonal component to the spread of covid is becoming the overriding factor. Lower humidities and colder air more readily transmit covid just as it does seasonally for most coronaviruses. Virus particles stay afloat longer in drier air and travel further in indoor environments. Holiday gatherings may give a booster charge to this thing but I think this winter will be ugly anyways and unless we go back to phase 3 shut downs, which I don't think will happen, its going to infect alot of people by next spring. Unfortunately a significant number of people have had it with the restrictions and there's enough misinformation or studies wrongly interpreted to justify in their minds not following all the restrictions. Also their is legitimate economic fallout in the restaurant/ bar industry that has to be considered. Especially if there is no widespread bailout of those small businesses. Many businesses are defying those shutdown orders. Not sure there is an answer at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Indiana with another 3205 cases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormfanaticInd Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 A record 6943 cases in Illinois. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 500k+ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frog Town Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMB WX Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 47 minutes ago, A-L-E-K said: 500k+ lol at the models that had us down to a few hundred deaths a day in the fall. AWT that was malarkey. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 32 minutes ago, UMB WX said: lol at the models that had us down to a few hundred deaths a day in the fall. AWT that was malarkey. Early IHME models had no cases after early June... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Frog Town said: Won't matter who's president, as long as people are in bad health, they'll die if weak enough. Big wake up call to people who think being fat is ok. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Case of covid-19 and flu co-infection in California: https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/solano-county-confirms-first-flu-and-covid-19-co-infection/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 2 hours ago, A-L-E-K said: 500k+ When you game it out, it seems like it will be hard to avoid hitting that number in 2021. Obviously have some uncertainty on precisely how bad it will get this winter and if some places will have to go back into shutdowns to reduce the spread, but let's say the IHME projection of 400k by February is reasonably accurate. We aren't even through winter at that point. Vaccines should be out by then but still somewhat limited availability, less than perfect efficacy, and a healthy chunk of the public is skeptical and won't get one anyway. Situation improves late spring/early summer and then the question is whether we can avoid a repeat of what happened in the South in summer. Unfortunately I think a sort of best case scenario would be if we can delay hitting 500k until late next year, but it certainly could happen well before then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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