BuffaloWeather Posted April 10, 2020 Author Share Posted April 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, wolfie09 said: Wintry threats till May this year? Lol Buffalo received 8" of snow on May 8th in 1989 1989 7th-8th…A late season snowstorm dropped up to twelve inches of snow across the western southern tier, Niagara Frontier and the Finger Lakes area. At Buffalo just under eight inches was recorded while at Rochester just over 10 inches fell. The snowfall established many new weather records for both cities. The snow covered the entire ten county area. The heavy, wet snow downed power lines and trees which took down more power lines when they fell. As lines fell, power poles were snapped. Nearly 13,000 customers were without electricity in much of Orleans and parts of northeast Genesee and western Monroe counties. Numerous scattered minor outages were also reported. Some roofs collapsed from the weight of the snow. Plows and salters were called out to clear roadways, though much of the snow was melting as it fell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted April 10, 2020 Author Share Posted April 10, 2020 Hard to see but looks like it's snowing pretty well at Holiday Valley https://www.holidayvalley.com/explore/webcams/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted April 10, 2020 Author Share Posted April 10, 2020 Wind picked up and this covered the ground. @DeltaT13 Would this be considered sleet or graupel? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Syrmax Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 We just had a snow shower blow through. Enough to record a "T". So we are off the schneid for April. Great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrmax Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 3 hours ago, BuffaloWeather said: Buffalo received 8" of snow on May 8th in 1989 1989 7th-8th…A late season snowstorm dropped up to twelve inches of snow across the western southern tier, Niagara Frontier and the Finger Lakes area. At Buffalo just under eight inches was recorded while at Rochester just over 10 inches fell. The snowfall established many new weather records for both cities. The snow covered the entire ten county area. The heavy, wet snow downed power lines and trees which took down more power lines when they fell. As lines fell, power poles were snapped. Nearly 13,000 customers were without electricity in much of Orleans and parts of northeast Genesee and western Monroe counties. Numerous scattered minor outages were also reported. Some roofs collapsed from the weight of the snow. Plows and salters were called out to clear roadways, though much of the snow was melting as it fell. I remember April 1989. About half the month was snowy, cold in the Binghamton area. It was right before I went in the Navy. I think we had a nice early April, even had temps in the 70s & 80s IIRC...and then all hell broke loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinksnow18 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 8 hours ago, BuffaloWeather said: Wind picked up and this covered the ground. @DeltaT13 Would this be considered sleet or graupel? Sloppel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinksnow18 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 I know there's this corona thing going on but for just a brief moment let's see if we can focus on next Monday's wind potential. If realized thus could be a pretty damaging scenario unfolding for the more densely populated parts of the Niag Frontier Late Monday morn through way Monday night. The NWS has stated winds may be SUSTAINED at 50mph for some time that afternoon with gusts to 70mph, which I would think hit 80 in spots of Niagara and Orleans cos. What we certainly do not need now are widespread power outages for days due to an event like this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revracer800 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 8 hours ago, BuffaloWeather said: Wind picked up and this covered the ground. @DeltaT13 Would this be considered sleet or graupel? Looks like mini marshmallows lol 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Snowing pretty good out, 32.6°... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying MXZ Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 This morning 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaT13 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 9 hours ago, BuffaloWeather said: Wind picked up and this covered the ground. @DeltaT13 Would this be considered sleet or graupel? I would definitely call it graupel. Sleet by definition should be fully melted and then refrozen into virtually pure ice balls/pellets. Surface temps should be below freezing for textbook sleet too. I like the suggestion of sloppel though, haha. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaT13 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Rochester is probably going to add a couple inches to the yearly snowfall today. I can’t recall the last time it was snowing this hard and sticking in April. Probably more recent than I realize but I’ll have to dig out the weather journal confirm. A cold crappy April will make sheltering in place a lot more tolerable. Once the weather really breaks people are going to lose their minds staying inside. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Some big snows in Maine as expected.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted April 10, 2020 Author Share Posted April 10, 2020 1/2" of QPF in the hills with over 3" of snow yesterday, airport almost picked up an 1" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted April 10, 2020 Author Share Posted April 10, 2020 20 minutes ago, DeltaT13 said: Rochester is probably going to add a couple inches to the yearly snowfall today. I can’t recall the last time it was snowing this hard and sticking in April. Probably more recent than I realize but I’ll have to dig out the weather journal confirm. A cold crappy April will make sheltering in place a lot more tolerable. Once the weather really breaks people are going to lose their minds staying inside. April 2017 had 2 synoptic events. I have pictures on my phone from both. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted April 10, 2020 Author Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Revracer800 said: Looks like mini marshmallows lol I was on my computer studying and heard the wind pick up and some crazy noise hitting the house. I had to get up and see this. It was like a graupel thunderstorm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted April 10, 2020 Author Share Posted April 10, 2020 44 minutes ago, Flying MXZ said: This morning Do you have 2 barns? That's awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochesterdave Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 50 minutes ago, wolfie09 said: Some big snows in Maine as expected.. How come our storms don’t verify like this?!? Lol. Damn! That’s great 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeEffectKing Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 2.5" here in Cazenovia....moderate snow, increasing in intensity. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Typical April day atop mountain Washington. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY_WX Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 13 hours ago, BuffaloWeather said: Wind picked up and this covered the ground. @DeltaT13 Would this be considered sleet or graupel? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mississaugasnow Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 7 hours ago, Thinksnow18 said: I know there's this corona thing going on but for just a brief moment let's see if we can focus on next Monday's wind potential. If realized thus could be a pretty damaging scenario unfolding for the more densely populated parts of the Niag Frontier Late Monday morn through way Monday night. The NWS has stated winds may be SUSTAINED at 50mph for some time that afternoon with gusts to 70mph, which I would think hit 80 in spots of Niagara and Orleans cos. What we certainly do not need now are widespread power outages for days due to an event like this. Im following this closely. The long duration could bring substantial flooding to the shorelines and waves could be massive. The fall storm comes to mind and that one devastated the shorelines and caused millions of damage on the Canadian side alone. Im going to wait another 24 hours before I sound the alarm for my inlaws who live only 20 feet from the shore. The breakwall held up okay in the Fall storm but suffered some damage which has yet to be fixed. Ill be heading down on monday regardless to check this out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 About 2" in shady areas in Deleware county ~2000'. 32° even some blowing snow, must be quite cold aloft(haven't looked at analysis). Just down to light snow/flurries 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaT13 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 hour ago, mississaugasnow said: Im following this closely. The long duration could bring substantial flooding to the shorelines and waves could be massive. The fall storm comes to mind and that one devastated the shorelines and caused millions of damage on the Canadian side alone. Im going to wait another 24 hours before I sound the alarm for my inlaws who live only 20 feet from the shore. The breakwall held up okay in the Fall storm but suffered some damage which has yet to be fixed. Ill be heading down on monday regardless to check this out. This storm has the ear marks of a real doozy. Things working in its favor include a real nice pocket of isallobaric pressure rises sliding through WNY and the fact that its still deepening significantly as it passes by to our NW. Things working against it would be timing of the frontal passage, it currently looks to occur a tad too late to fully utilize diurnal mixing when the steepest lapse rates begin to move through; this only needs to change by a few hours to make a big difference though. High wind events in late Spring have the ability to really tap the high sun angle and create very deep mixing bringing down the strongest winds. The Niagara frontier is incredibly battle hardened over the past 5 years with over a dozen events with winds above 60mph, several above 70mph, and one above 80mph, so that works in our favor of clearing out the weak and damaged trees and limbs, thus limiting damage. On the other hand, a lot of trees have budded out significantly and that adds weight and resistance, plus anything over 70mph starts to take down even the strongest trees. Antecedent conditions also aren't overly wet, but we might get a good soaking in the warm sector which will certain soften things up. A very fun and exciting storm to be tracking after winter sputtered away to nothing.... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted April 10, 2020 Author Share Posted April 10, 2020 5.5" of snow across southern tier overnight https://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&issuedby=BUF&product=PNS&format=CI&version=3&glossary=0 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted April 10, 2020 Author Share Posted April 10, 2020 Just now, DeltaT13 said: This storm has the ear marks of a real doozy. Things working in its favor include a real nice pocket of isallobaric pressure rises sliding through WNY and the fact that its still deepening significantly as it passes by to our NW. Things working against it would be timing of the frontal passage, it currently looks to occur a tad too late to fully utilize diurnal mixing when the steepest lapse rates begin to move through; this only needs to change by a few hours to make a big difference though. High wind events in late Spring have the ability to really tap the high sun angle and create very deep mixing bringing down the strongest winds. The Niagara frontier is incredibly battle hardened over the past 5 years with over a dozen events with winds above 60mph, several above 70mph, and one above 80mph, so that works in our favor of clearing out the weak and damaged trees and limbs, thus limiting damage. On the other hand, a lot of trees have budded out significantly and that adds weight and resistance, plus anything over 70mph starts to take down even the strongest trees. Antecedent conditions also aren't overly wet, but we might get a good soaking in the warm sector which will certain soften things up. A very fun and exciting storm to be tracking after winter sputtered away to nothing.... Great...More of my fence is going to blow away... 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeeffectkid383 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said: 5.5" of snow across southern tier overnight https://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&issuedby=BUF&product=PNS&format=CI&version=3&glossary=0 7” 5 NNW of Jamestown reported by a spotter as of this morning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mississaugasnow Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, DeltaT13 said: This storm has the ear marks of a real doozy. Things working in its favor include a real nice pocket of isallobaric pressure rises sliding through WNY and the fact that its still deepening significantly as it passes by to our NW. Things working against it would be timing of the frontal passage, it currently looks to occur a tad too late to fully utilize diurnal mixing when the steepest lapse rates begin to move through; this only needs to change by a few hours to make a big difference though. High wind events in late Spring have the ability to really tap the high sun angle and create very deep mixing bringing down the strongest winds. The Niagara frontier is incredibly battle hardened over the past 5 years with over a dozen events with winds above 60mph, several above 70mph, and one above 80mph, so that works in our favor of clearing out the weak and damaged trees and limbs, thus limiting damage. On the other hand, a lot of trees have budded out significantly and that adds weight and resistance, plus anything over 70mph starts to take down even the strongest trees. Antecedent conditions also aren't overly wet, but we might get a good soaking in the warm sector which will certain soften things up. A very fun and exciting storm to be tracking after winter sputtered away to nothing.... Whats your thoughts on Lake Erie waves and seiche. The inlaws live in the port maitland area of Lake Erie in Haldimand County and got slammed by the fall storm. Think the waves and seiche will be similar? 3 weeks ago I bought a Kestrel weather meter so im excited to try it out in a storm and not just in my suburban backyard haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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