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One More Shot: Feb 20-21 Event


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2 minutes ago, TARHEELPROGRAMMER88 said:

That seems the most likely, since we will need to waste QPF for a change over to snow.

I think the only way we get to the RDPS or higher is if we find ourselves in this banding that will setup tonight. It will likely setup east of Raleigh, but if it were to setup over us, that could be a game changers. This is all due to the PJ wave diving in behind, giving some last minute life to the SLP/atlantic fetch.

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4 minutes ago, HKY_WX said:

Latest RDU totals via Kuchera Method:

15z HRR = 2.2

12zGFS = 1.8

12zNAM = 3.5

12z RDPS = 5.9

 

Average = 3.3 inches at RDU

 

Any thoughts on the beefing up of totals in the southern coastal plain last few runs? Between Fayetteville and New Bern, totals have doubled on many of the models in the past 6 hours.

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Just now, HKY_WX said:

I think the only way we get to the RDPS or higher is if we find ourselves in this banding that will setup tonight. It will likely setup east of Raleigh, but if it were to setup over us, that could be a game changers. This is all due to the PJ wave diving in behind, giving some last minute life to the SLP/atlantic fetch.

Thanks for the information. I am south of Garner, near Clayton. Models appear to have RDU area in at least 3 inches, so who knows.

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Just now, StantonParkHoya said:

 

Any thoughts on the beefing up of totals in the southern coastal plain last few runs? Between Fayetteville and New Bern, totals have doubled on many of the models in the past 6 hours.

I do think there will be some banding setting up after 7PM over the eastern piedmont/coastal plain. I'm just not sure if this sets up over Fayetteville or closer to the Rocky Mount/Greenville area. Or potentially further north towards Elizabeth City.

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43 minutes ago, jjwxman said:

I have seen that as well.  It's a long shot, but If it does happen the ratios would be much higher then as well. 

It's a long shot for sure and the area that would be affected extremely small geographically, but it could very well be the highlight of this event for some if it does in fact materialize with gusty winds and the higher ratios at the time it moves through. The latest run of the Canadian has a little over an inch of snow falling in the Greensboro area between 1am and 7am. 

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I don't get some of the wailing and gnashing of teeth.  Radar returns west all the way into Ms. look pretty robust.  I suppose the orientation and movement could result in some down-sloping.  But I am just glad to have something to track after this crappy winter.  Two weeks ago at this time we were hunkered down in the Emergency Operations Center with an EF2 tornado on the ground in the southern part of the county headed our way.  It's sleeting outside now.  Quite a difference.  No complaints here......yet ;)  

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Just now, Upstate Tiger said:

I don't get some of the wailing and gnashing of teeth.  Radar returns west all the way into Ms. look pretty robust.  I suppose the orientation and movement could result in some down-sloping.  But I am just glad to have something to track after this crappy winter.  Two weeks ago at this time we were hunkered down in the Emergency Operations Center with an EF2 tornado on the ground in the southern part of the county headed our way.  It's sleeting outside now.  Quite a difference.  No complaints here......yet ;)  

Yeah I don't get the lack of moisture complaints. I haven't seen any sleet, and cold is certainly an issue, but there's plenty of precip.  For those lucky enough to have the cold, you'll be fine. 

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1 minute ago, Iceagewhereartthou said:

Yeah I don't get the lack of moisture complaints. I haven't seen any sleet, and cold is certainly an issue, but there's plenty of precip.  For those lucky enough to have the cold, you'll be fine. 

I think it's mainly driven by watching the NAM nail us run after run. Did a lot to raise expectations. The reality is this has looked like a 1-3" event with some upside potential since Tuesday morning

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Just now, olafminesaw said:

I think it's mainly driven by watching the NAM nail us run after run. Did a lot to raise expectations. The reality is this has looked like a 1-3" event with some upside potential since Tuesday morning

I'm certainly no expert, but at this point, isn't what is falling out of the sky and the radar more of an indicator than the models? 

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2 minutes ago, olafminesaw said:

I think it's mainly driven by watching the NAM nail us run after run. Did a lot to raise expectations. The reality is this has looked like a 1-3" event with some upside potential since Tuesday morning

EXACTLY. My only disappointment was this may not turn into the higher end weenie storm. This is still going to be a good snow for much of the state and I think every county will see flakes. That's pretty rare! If we get 2" in Raleigh I'll be happy. 4" and I'll be ecstatic. Those are my thresholds here for the storm. I think everything is on track for the forecast.

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the new hrrr is now showing that band of snow now across the southern upstate/midlands. I find this rather impressive given it's surface warm bias which skews against it's snow forecasts. Only reason this might work out is flow in the mid levels is out of the northeast instead of north or northwest..in which case there would be no chance at all. 

 

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31 minutes ago, SnowDawg said:

Just saw a video from one of the high rise buildings in Atlanta with flakes mixed in to the rain. Pretty cool, but also kind of a kick in the face sitting here in the Mtns watching it rain lol

just saw on channel 5 some flakes mixing in with the rain there. not too surprising given the amount of bright banding. No flakes here even though i'm under it....but the drops have that "slop" sound to them. I do wonder if there could be a brief surprise changeover or good mixing  north of atlanta up near gainesville. Some 50 dbz showing up on composite. 

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1 minute ago, burrel2 said:

imo, the northern upstate may wind up doing as well as  many in Eastern NC with this storm. Looks like we can pick up 1/2 to 3/4 of liquid over the next 4 hours and should be changing to snow with surface temps crashing in the next hour.

Ive dropped 6 in the last hour. Down to 37.6 now. 

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2 minutes ago, burrel2 said:

imo, the northern upstate may wind up doing as well as  many in Eastern NC with this storm. Looks like we can pick up 1/2 to 3/4 of liquid over the next 4 hours and should be changing to snow with surface temps crashing in the next hour.

I'm not sure where you're going to manufacture crashing surface temps down there but good luck! Pays to be optimistic 

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