vortmax Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 minute ago, BuffaloWeather said: It went too far SE and ratios were worse than expected. https://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&product=PNS&issuedby=BUF 5.5" in Alleghany county. At least the PA folks got something. Think it's been bad here? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 SW Oswego, Fulton/Hannibal could do ok today with a North-NNW flow..I remember a few decent northerly events in Fulton while max and freak were sunbathing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortmax Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, wolfie09 said: SW Oswego, Fulton/Hannibal could do ok today with a North-NNW flow..I remember a few decent northerly events in Fulton while max and freak were sunbathing Those guys do great with almost all flows - not fair! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Hrrr quite cold overnight/am.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortmax Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, wolfie09 said: Hrrr quite cold overnight/am.. Pretty cool that it captures the northerly wind with the cooler temps pushing out over the water on the N Shore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 I think why many think this winter is so bad is because of all the failures that have occurred. Other winters have obviously been worse. This one, though, has sucked us in with lots of possibilities...with most of them being disappointments. i.e last night's failure. One positive is all the mixes/ice/thawing and freezing have helped to maintain a snowpack for much of the winter...at least in this area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelee Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 It's because of the complete lack of lake effect this year. I don't remember it ever being this bad, even in 2011-12 there were a couple LES advisory hits for the Buffalo area. Synoptically, it's been very active for the Buffalo area. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleetussnow Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 16 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said: I think why many think this winter is so bad is because of all the failures that have occurred. Other winters have obviously been worse. This one, though, has sucked us in with lots of possibilities...with most of them being disappointments. i.e last night's failure. One positive is all the mixes/ice/thawing and freezing have helped to maintain a snowpack for much of the winter...at least in this area. I'll go with this. Much promise, especially with an early cold shot in November and good looking LR teles… Then mirage snow oasis kept showing up on the LR and medium range modeling only to cut or vaporize. The models have been terrible for the US which just adds to the frustration for snow lovers. I never say this but lets get right to spring. The last thing I want is for this wound to fester through April. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Euro close to something decent on the front end of next weeks system, which is all I have to potentially look forward to lol Big temp contrast with LP approaching from the west and HP retreating NE... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 38 minutes ago, Leelee said: It's because of the complete lack of lake effect this year. I don't remember it ever being this bad, even in 2011-12 there were a couple LES advisory hits for the Buffalo area. Synoptically, it's been very active for the Buffalo area. 100% the worst lake effect year in my lifetime and as lake effect is my favorite part of winter a big F- grade this year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 30 minutes ago, cleetussnow said: I'll go with this. Much promise, especially with an early cold shot in November and good looking LR teles… Then mirage snow oasis kept showing up on the LR and medium range modeling only to cut or vaporize. The models have been terrible for the US which just adds to the frustration for snow lovers. I never say this but lets get right to spring. The last thing I want is for this wound to fester through April. The long range has strung the entire forum along all year with MJO changing (but never changing), the AO changing (stayed positive all winter), the Alaskan vortex moving ( never moved), etc.... If you look at the long range now, late February looks pretty solid right now for some consistent winter weather, will probably be 50 and sunny by then. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Temps are starting to drop under NNW flow, down 3° last hour.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrmax Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 20 minutes ago, wolfie09 said: Temps are starting to drop under NNW flow, down 3° last hour.. HRRR has KSYR 2 meter temps at -3F tomorrow at 13Z? Not a fan of that. Sucks to be 6 ft tall tomorrow. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim123 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Hrrr very persistent in 3 to 6 inches for rochester tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortmax Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, tim123 said: Hrrr very persistent in 3 to 6 inches for rochester tonight I'm kinda surprised that BUF doesn't have an advisory out for the LO border counties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortmax Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 SNOW SQUALL WARNING>>> BEEP BEEP just kidding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim123 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Yeah kinda surprised as well. Maybe they put one up after its done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochesterdave Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 And that’s at 10:1. It’ll probably be 30:1. Lol Seriously though, someone gets a few inches of fluff tonight. I could see Roc getting 3-6..I could also see us getting nada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 My cousin just sent me this picture from downtown Syracuse. He is over there for a meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 Over 4" for this "event" so far. Snow depth is around 6" throughout the yard and its pure cement/ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 hour ago, vortmax said: I'm kinda surprised that BUF doesn't have an advisory out for the LO border counties. For the area southeast of Lake Ontario, pretty similar setup, though convergence persists a little longer (02z-09z) and moisture to H85 persists through late tonight. Isold totals tonight could reach 5 inches as there may be a few hours where up to 1 inch per hour may occur. Attm though, too minimal area will be impacted by more than 4 inches to issue an advisory. Will mention snowfall for both areas in the Hazardous Weather Outlook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 hour ago, BuffaloWeather said: Over 4" for this "event" so far. Snow depth is around 6" throughout the yard and its pure cement/ice. Rochester has probably had the "best" lake effect this year of any of the big cities. The NNW winds have been the only reliable wind direction it seems.. 4 inches on this event??!? You seem to be outdoing the Syracuse area by far with almost every system. Syracuse has had most of our snowfall come with "events" about every 3 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 I wonder if there are still areas of the Tug that are under 100 inches on the year. With (I don't think?) no West wind or SW wind events, I'm sure there is a huge deficit up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Some are doing better than others, still well below average.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share Posted February 14, 2020 1 hour ago, TugHillMatt said: Rochester has probably had the "best" lake effect this year of any of the big cities. The NNW winds have been the only reliable wind direction it seems.. 4 inches on this event??!? You seem to be outdoing the Syracuse area by far with almost every system. Syracuse has had most of our snowfall come with "events" about every 3 weeks. Yeah have been doing pretty decent last 10 days or so. Places just to my SE have been doing a lot better, but that happens every year. Elevation has been key this year though. The highest totals off of Erie are Perrysburg at 134.5", Ellicottville at 137", and Springville at 129.3" . I think Erie is beating Ontario this year. What is Redfield at @wolfie09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Here are the statistics for N Redfield.. Quick math off the top of my head says 140"-145".. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share Posted February 14, 2020 Getting some nice lake enhanced snow last few hours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 So close yet so far lol Sometimes as much as 150"+ difference in this little span.. Must be nice to have elevation and sit in a perfect location.. With that being said I receive enough snow in an average year, I just miss the most of anybody lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Temps starting to crash , winds due north . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim123 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Nice hybrid storm on gfs fantasy range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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