It's Always Sunny Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 New tornado warning south of Fort Worth, heading for FWS radar.We ended up having to leave our house with that TOR warning in Tarrant earlier. Scary stuff. It was nasty looking on radar near Burleson. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Claridge Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 New tornado warning northwest of the Houston metro area. Portions of the northernmost Houston metro area (The Woodlands and Conroe) will need to watch out if this can hold together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Claridge Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Looks like activity is now starting to ramp up west of Shreveport. Many storms in that area seem to be getting that "look" (hooks) on the radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 So as far as NE Texas into Dallas this was an absolute bust. Schools cancelled events Friday because the forecast and most the region had run-of-the-mill spring-like storms. My question for those much smarter than me: Why? Parameters were ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Clause Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Yesterday was a pretty big bust, no other way to put it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 So as far as NE Texas into Dallas this was an absolute bust. Schools cancelled events Friday because the forecast and most the region had run-of-the-mill spring-like storms. My question for those much smarter than me: Why? Parameters were ideal. Storm mode was terrible. Throw in VBV and essentially too much forcing and you have a mess of storms and a huge line. That line of storms is massive right now, but hard to get anything other than spin ups along it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1900hurricane Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 I don't think veer-back was really an issue actually. Low level wind shear was ridiculous with huge to borderline comical hodographs (see special 21Z CLL sounding). I think the real failure mode was due to the boundary layer temperature profile. Using 00Z and 06Z LCH as a comparison, when the low level jet kicked to next level, it advected warmer temperatures into the 850-700 mb layer which killed low level instability. Between the 00Z and 06Z soundings at LCH, 3CAPE dropped from 126 to 28 J/kg despite nearly identical surface temperature and dewpoint at both times. I think this make it hard for storms to root at the surface level. A couple more degrees of surface heating may have made a big difference. Areas I drove yesterday were all in the 70-72ºF range and socked in clouds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanLarsen34 Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 Should we move any discussion of today’s threat over to the SE forum? I just checked and saw no one has started a thread yet. SPC has 10% hatched probabilities across Alabama, and the models are popping some incredible STP values later this afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob's Burgers Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Radar-confirmed tornado at Carrollton/Reform Alabama (probably what's in the last post?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob's Burgers Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Chinook said: Radar-confirmed tornado at Carrollton/Reform Alabama (probably what's in the last post?) Yeah that's what I was referring to. Looks like there is a small area of buildings right off the highway where it touched down (plus copious trees), so there should be quite a few damage indicators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob's Burgers Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 possible tornado near Tuscaloosa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Clause Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Southeast forum is kinda useless here lol...tornado near Tuscaloosa and too busy talking about possible pattern change in like two weeks. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Last night in LA 2 confirmed fatalities from a EF2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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janetjanet998 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0038 NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 1150 AM CST SAT JAN 11 2020 AREAS AFFECTED...PORTIONS OF AL CONCERNING...TORNADO WATCH 12...13... VALID 111750Z - 111915Z THE SEVERE WEATHER THREAT FOR TORNADO WATCH 12, 13 CONTINUES. SUMMARY...GREATEST POTENTIAL FOR TORNADOES AND DAMAGING STRAIGHT-LINE WINDS WILL SHIFT FROM WESTERN INTO PARTS OF NORTHERN AND CENTRAL AL OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF HOURS. SOME OF THE TORNADOES COULD BE STRONG. DISCUSSION...A SQUALL LINE HAS RECENTLY CONSOLIDATED AND STRENGTHENED OVER WESTERN AL AS LARGE-SCALE ASCENT ASSOCIATED WITH A NORTHEASTWARD-EJECTING UPPER TROUGH OVERSPREADS THE CENTRAL GULF COAST STATES. A COUPLE OF EMBEDDED LOW-LEVEL CIRCULATIONS HAVE ALSO RECENTLY OCCURRED WITHIN THE LINE. ONE SUCH ROTATIONAL VELOCITY SIGNATURE EARLIER PRODUCED A TDS OVER PICKENS COUNTY AL. VERY STRONG LOW-LEVEL SHEAR EXISTS DOWNSTREAM OF THE CONVECTIVE LINE ACROSS NORTHERN/CENTRAL AL, WITH THE VWP FROM KBMX SHOWING SOUTHERLY LOW-LEVEL WINDS QUICKLY STRENGTHENING TO OVER 60 KT IN THE 0-1 KM LAYER. SOME CURVATURE OF THE LOW-LEVEL HODOGRAPH IS SUPPORTING EFFECTIVE SRH AROUND 450-650+ M2/S2 GIVEN THE NORTHEASTWARD MOTION OF INDIVIDUAL ELEMENTS EMBEDDED WITHIN THE LINE. COUPLED WITH A GRADUALLY DESTABILIZING AIRMASS DOWNSTREAM INTO NORTHERN/CENTRAL AL, THIS VERY FAVORABLE KINEMATIC ENVIRONMENT WILL BE CONDUCIVE TO CONTINUED DAMAGING STRAIGHT-LINE WINDS AND TORNADIC CIRCULATIONS EMBEDDED WITHIN THE LINE. EVEN WITH A MAINLY LINEAR MODE, THERE REMAINS SOME POTENTIAL FOR A STRONG TORNADO OR TWO IN THE SHORT TERM MAINLY ACROSS PARTS OF WEST-CENTRAL AL GIVEN THE EXCEPTIONALLY STRONG LOW-LEVEL SHEAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob's Burgers Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 At least 3 are now confirmed dead near Carrollton from the tornado earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 There are two possible tornadoes north of Birmingham AL. This is definitely a James Spann moment if there ever was one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob's Burgers Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Lots of damage in B'ham area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderon Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 That's a false picture he's showing, and should know better. Those trees are clearly in spring leaf out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, Calderon said: That's a false picture he's showing, and should know better. Those trees are clearly in spring leaf out. That's pretty funny. By the way, it looks like Huntsville AL radar is not working, but there's a possible tornado southeast of Huntsville. Edit: HTX has radar data now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob's Burgers Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 He's still showing some odd stuff that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indystorm Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Might as well keep tor warnings and info here as the storms move into Georgia. As was mentioned se forum is dead to current svr weather items which is usually the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 By the way, yesterday had more tornado watches than tornadoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CheeselandSkies Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Over 700 wind reports over the two days. Impressive serial derecho. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderon Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 On 1/11/2020 at 11:01 PM, CheeselandSkies said: Over 700 wind reports over the two days. Impressive serial derecho. That was not a derecho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Always Sunny Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 On 1/11/2020 at 7:27 AM, canderson said: So as far as NE Texas into Dallas this was an absolute bust. Schools cancelled events Friday because the forecast and most the region had run-of-the-mill spring-like storms. My question for those much smarter than me: Why? Parameters were ideal. For the Dallas area I think the lack of tornadoes was due to the cap breaking too late, mainly due to overcast conditions and from what I remember the 700 mb trough arrived a little later than modeled which also would've helped break the cap sooner. Looking at the 18Z FWD sounding the low level wind profile was almost linear in the lowest km which doesn't work so well for spin ups. There was also some subtle VBV above 1km but I don't think that alone was the reason we didn't see much, but moreso the combination of the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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