DanLarsen34 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Thought I’d get a thread going for January 10-11. SPC already has 15% threat areas for next Friday and Saturday, January 10-11, for much of the gulf coast. Threat starts in the Texas, Arkansas, and Louisiana area on Friday, then shifts to Mississippi and Alabama on Saturday. Could this be our first severe weather event of the decade? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese007 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 30% contour added for D5. Don't see that too often in January Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob's Burgers Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Might be battling a cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanLarsen34 Posted January 6, 2020 Author Share Posted January 6, 2020 As mentioned above, SPC has added a 30% contour for Friday for the Arklatex region. Discussion shows they’re quite bold on the warm sector that will be in place that day. Instability/shear combo will be quite impressive Saturday stays at 15%, but the risk area has been expanded a bit with SPC hinting at a possible upgrade in the next outlook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstrunk Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Crazy to see this kind of wording at Day 5. Lots of time for changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallis Rockwell Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 My body is ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drz1111 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Pretty neat that there's a legit EML for this one . . . could favor a more discrete storm mode than is typical for outbreaks this time of year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Always Sunny Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Yikes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 As mentioned above, I’m pretty impressed with the forecasted EML on Friday. Several point soundings indicate 700-500 mb lapse rates exceeding 8 C/km and a pretty notable cap early on which could help limit junk convection. It remains to be seen how the wind fields evolve, but just seeing that capping/steep lapse rates in conjunction with a seasonably moist warm sector with mid-upper 60s dewpoints has me raising eyebrows. I also have concerns about overnight Friday into Saturday morning, as the trough swings negative tilt and the wind fields really ramp up across the Lower Mississippi and Tennessee Valleys. That actually may end up being the best juxtaposition of strong low level shear and rich low level moisture, but obviously there are still changes ahead. Overnight sig severe and Dixie is tailor made in the cold season (see 12/16/19 and 1/21-22/2017 for a couple of recent examples). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 As an interesting side note, you can use the PivotalWeather ECMWF clickable soundings to check for severe weather parameters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallis Rockwell Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Low level winds for Friday is looking impressive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob's Burgers Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 STP up in the 4-6 range in a lot of areas in eastern texas from the 00z Euro this evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese007 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 30% contour added for Saturday. Severe season looking to be off to one hall of an early start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeselandSkies Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 The lapse rates on the GFS for Friday afternoon/evening in the Arklatex/lower MS Valley made me sit up and take notice. Those are often the make-or-breaker in low-CAPE cool season setups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanLarsen34 Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 hours ago, cheese007 said: 30% contour added for Saturday. Severe season looking to be off to one hall of an early start Pretty sizable risk area at that. Friday’s outlook has shifted west towards the Dallas/Fort Worth area and I-35. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CryHavoc Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Day 3 Enhanced Risk just went up. I'm guessing this will be a Day 2 Mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese007 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Big sig severe contour in the southern portion of the enhanced risk. Includes 7 million+ folks. 30% across MS/AL for D4 as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanLarsen34 Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 Probably stating the obvious here, but the ceiling of Friday and Saturday is going to hinge on storm mode. Both days have the potential for discrete convection ahead of an intense QLCS. Any discrete cells on either day would be capable of producing significant tornadoes. Either way, we’re looking at a pretty significant two day period for severe weather. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstrunk Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 41 minutes ago, DanLarsen34 said: Probably stating the obvious here, but the ceiling of Friday and Saturday is going to hinge on storm mode. Both days have the potential for discrete convection ahead of an intense QLCS. Any discrete cells on either day would be capable of producing significant tornadoes. Either way, we’re looking at a pretty significant two day period for severe weather. Yeah I think this is worth highlighting - we'll have at least a handful of tornado reports but like always in this region, storm mode is king, and will be the difference in determining if this is a memorable vs. a unremarkable event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeselandSkies Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Friday afternoon over E. Texas, EHI ticked up again on the 12Z NAM but VBV is quite pronounced above 850mb in forecast soundings from the most unstable areas. That's not a look for sustained open warm sector tornadic supercells. There could be some pretty potent QLCS tornadoes though with the amount of turning below 850mb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob's Burgers Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 The euro is the new hype machine lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeselandSkies Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 15 minutes ago, Bob's Burgers said: The euro is the new hype machine lol Still quite a bit of VBV in this sounding. Shear profiles are progged to improve somewhat through the day Saturday in southern parts of MS/AL and the Florida panhandle. I think that's where/when any long-track, EF3+ supercell tornadoes will be with this event if things stand as they are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanLarsen34 Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 12 minutes ago, CheeselandSkies said: Friday afternoon over E. Texas, EHI ticked up again on the 12Z NAM but VBV is quite pronounced above 850mb in forecast soundings from the most unstable areas. That's not a look for sustained open warm sector tornadic supercells. There could be some pretty potent QLCS tornadoes though with the amount of turning below 850mb. On this point: The storm mode is definitely an issue, but given the strength of the low level jet, this could still be a prolific tornado producer. We’re looking at 850 mb winds between 60-80 knots Friday and Saturday (latter values have popped up for Saturday across Alabama). Several embedded tornadoes, including significant tornadoes, are a distinct possibility. Some of the CAPE and STP values showing up in Texas on Friday are crazy for early January too. I think the CAPE record for this time of the year in the Dallas area was set around Christmas of 2016 in a similarly anomalous winter set-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob's Burgers Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Yeah, you never know when those embedded tornadoes get strong. Think El Reno and Rushton, LA from last year -- both killer EF-3's in squall lines at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdgwx Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 There are some heavy hitters showing up on CIPS including 2/5/2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonOH Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 One thing to keep an eye on is the mean wind being very close to or on the hodograph. That will cause storms to have trouble turning right and starting to strongly rotate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob's Burgers Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 BMX is thinking derecho/LEWP. Supercells on Saturday are looking less and less likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
METALSTORM Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Strange that there's no mention of this potentially significant severe set up in the Southeastern Forum. They're all worried about some flurries around the 15th or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob's Burgers Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Area Forecast Discussion National Weather Service Birmingham AL 607 AM CST Wed Jan 8 2020 Friday will mark the beginning of an extended period of unsettled weather as a trough strengthens and becomes increasingly dynamic over Texas and New Mexico. Strengthening southerly flow will lead to isentropic lift as a warm sector begins to advance northward. Widespread showers with isolated embedded elevated thunderstorms are expected across much of the forecast area on Friday. As the upper-level trough transitions from a neutral to negative tilt Friday night, rapid pressure falls are expected near the Mississippi River at 6 AM Saturday. An extremely strong low-level jet is anticipated in advance of a well-organized QLCS, with mid to upper 60s dewpoints overspreading the forecast area by noon Saturday. As it stands, a significant severe weather event appears likely beginning as early as 9 AM in our western counties. SBCAPE is currently modeled at 500-1000 J/kg by most model guidance, but my hunch is that these values may be a little on the low side due to the effects of erroneous-looking QPF as noted in the ECMWF data. Even taking CAPE a face value, strong forcing combined with extreme low-level winds and wind shear would result in a QLCS capable of producing widespread damaging winds and embedded tornadoes. The ECMWF shows a wide swath of 70-80 kt 700mb winds with pockets up to 100 kts, meaning that a derecho cannot be ruled out particularly across our northwestern counties. The potential for supercells ahead of the QLCS will depend on the state of the warm sector. If the warm sector is relatively uncontaminated and the current timing holds true, temperatures would rise into the 70-74F range during the late morning and early afternoon hours, aiding in the formation of cellular convection ahead of the QLCS. In order for any cellular activity to become tornadic in the presence of extreme wind shear, robust updrafts will be required. Otherwise, these updrafts will be torn apart. This system should exit the area late Saturday afternoon or Saturday evening, and dry conditions expected on Sunday with the exception of a slight chance of showers across our southeastern counties. Here the front is expected to stall and return northward as a warm front Sunday afternoon into Monday. Showers and embedded thunderstorms should expand in coverage and move northward to near I-59 on Monday. These high rain chances will continue into Tuesday across most of the forecast area. 87/Grantham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonOH Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 What BMX said is very true. The QLCS comes through too early Saturday for heating to be maximized with current timing so warm sector updrafts may not be robust enough to survive. This a could result in a very impressive QLCS and I personally think (Currently) damaging winds/embedded tors are the greatest threat Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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