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Jan 8th, 2020 Coastal - little critter


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6 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said:

It's now that trailing s/w diving out of GL.  It kicks this storm east before it has chance to drop in behind and phase.  That piece looks to be coming onshore in BC now.

Here's what I am talking about.  It's that piece up in BC that is kicking our storm off to the east at the last moment.  

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12 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said:

We are in a what can go wrong will go wrong state. Jan 21st can’t come soon enough.

Except the PNA is still off the wall negative at that point, and when Juden Cohen tweets that he does not expect any real cold into eastern North America especially on the SNE side anytime soon, your ears need to be open to that probability that the pattern that you get now is the overall pattern of the winter and may never change until it is already over. 

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1 minute ago, Ogmios said:

Except the PNA is still off the wall negative at that point, and when Juden Cohen tweets that he does not expect any real cold into eastern North America especially on the SNE side anytime soon, your ears need to be open to that probability that the pattern that you get now is the overall pattern of the winter and may never change until it is already over. 

Possibly, and then if we get in a colder/snowy pattern, Judah will change his tune and say "as predicted" 

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13 minutes ago, Ogmios said:

Except the PNA is still off the wall negative at that point, and when Juden Cohen tweets that he does not expect any real cold into eastern North America especially on the SNE side anytime soon, your ears need to be open to that probability that the pattern that you get now is the overall pattern of the winter and may never change until it is already over. 

So that means back half of winter will be awesome. Fade Judah, always.

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8 minutes ago, SouthCoastMA said:

No model is really showing a good hit down here. I'd say 1-3" is the upside but leaning towards 1"

I could see this as where like 5-10 miles from the coast end up getting a few inches and the rest of us just barely miss 

I don’t think we have time left to see the movement we need 

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5 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said:

Right and doesn’t take much to get us N or AN but tying how well a season behaves to snowfall is not ideal imo. 

It depends.  I think most of us in eastern areas considered 2014-15 A+ due to 80-100 inches in a 30 day period.  This despite flirting with futility at this point in the season.  Had we received half that amount most of us would still grade it A-/B+.  Tying the grade to constancy of winter means 98% are flawed.

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