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Jan 4-5 Mixed Bag Discussion Thread


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1 minute ago, JGNYK03 said:

exactly and the 12z EURO trended towards the primary being more dominant which torches southern CT.   

Yeah sort of..it had a much stronger secondary with a way better CCB than the 00z run, but it just redeveloped a bit further north, so in that sense the primary was a pain in the azz in hanging tough longer, but once it ceded to the secondary, it did so much more dynamically than 00z.

Obviously if the redevelopment happens later than it doesn't really help southern areas. 

 

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Honestly, I'd prob keep hopes to like 1-3" if you are south of, say, a Chris in Greenfield to Hubbdave to Ray line...if we get a trend better, then you'll be pleasantly surprised. But this still has all sorts of problems for siggy snow in SNE. It could even go wrong pretty easily for CNE too. 

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4 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Yeah sort of..it had a much stronger secondary with a way better CCB than the 00z run, but it just redeveloped a bit further north, so in that sense the primary was a pain in the azz in hanging tough longer, but once it ceded to the secondary, it did so much more dynamically than 00z.

Obviously if the redevelopment happens later than it doesn't really help southern areas. 

 

This will be one of those deals where each run improves with one facet while something else worsens. Zero net gain.

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23 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

This is a quick moving NJ Model low in this 12z oper. Euro ...might approach bombogen criteria, but probably rapid enough either way to clip the region with middling concerns.

Others are right... there's going to be some height fall requirement/but 850 mb pulling down cold from the N once that and the 700 surface are closing off would likely accelerates that. Airs some semblance to me of November 1986.  

This has a pretty potent frontogenic signature there, even using the poor granularity of the free-bee products that is discernible. With a 500 surface closing and heights falling with cyclogen kick-back, destablization in a band or two gives some meso/thunder concerns - but I may be too optimistic with deepening rates.  Close call! 

Anyway, inside of D4 on the Euro is typically in 80th percentile for correct... There may be times where it has performed worse, but there are enough where it's 90 or better...it's a got a solid and reasonably dependability for 84 to 96 lead. 

Man, we would have had a blizzard if we had had a PNA ridge....

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5 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

EPS looks pretty good for the pike region up into CNE/NNE. Definitely potential for 6 hours of heavy snow at the end wth that look. There's just not a lot of wiggle room down on the southern end of that range. 

2nd wave looks further east on the eps

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23 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

EPS looks pretty good for the pike region up into CNE/NNE. Definitely potential for 6 hours of heavy snow at the end wth that look. There's just not a lot of wiggle room down on the southern end of that range. 

Meaning no dice south of 90?

Seems to me N CT still could get 2-5 or something 

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