dendrite Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Pretty sure DT called it globular worming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 Seasons Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Weenie ice maps from the 12Z EC and GEM. That would be pretty devistating for the NW litchfield hill towns. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Wow that Euro map is a grid destroyer NW/ NE CT hills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Euro looked like a scalping up in the pike region for central/eastern MA. But a little nudge warmer and that's ZR. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 On 12/27/2019 at 8:00 PM, ORH_wxman said: Euro looked like a scalping up in the pike region for central/eastern MA. But a little nudge warmer and that's ZR. Expand That run would be like VD Day here...Snow grain/sleet mix. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 On 12/27/2019 at 7:58 PM, Damage In Tolland said: Wow that Euro map is a grid destroyer NW/ NE CT hills Expand Pretty good agreement between GEM and Euro there...the latter looks a hair warmer in mid levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 On 12/27/2019 at 7:58 PM, Damage In Tolland said: Wow that Euro map is a grid destroyer NW/ NE CT hills Expand Glad we don't live there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 On 12/27/2019 at 8:09 PM, 40/70 Benchmark said: Pretty good agreement between GEM and Euro there...the latter looks a hair warmer in mid levels. Expand No Kev few weeks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 On 12/27/2019 at 6:16 PM, alex said: That was with installation, but not including propane hookup. We get a decent amount of outages here, so it's worth it to me. Especially with little ones. And given our propensity to flood, there's also the consideration for sump pumps which can make a big difference. It was worth it to me. Expand Thanks. We're sitting on an offer of $6,000 for a 13kw, fully installed including the necessary cut-out to protect lineworkers. However, we're still researching propane sources and installation prices. We may have to wait thru winter as the ground between the generator and fuel setups probably has 12"+ frost and it's getting deeper. (One company said they could run the gas pipe above ground temporarily, but I'm not in favor as we need to keep a path open there for oil delivery - and for access to my max-min thermometer. ) Sort of like winterizing a summer home https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.clickondetroit.com/news/2017/03/09/how-to-prevent-your-pipes-from-freezing-when-you-have-no-heat/%3foutputType=amp Today's outage is either the 4th or 5th since the equinox, and things seem to be worsening year by year. I'd rather not be taking all those steps with that kind of frequency, might omit something important (like the furnace emergency switch) and have damage costing nearly as much as the gen. That winterizing process is what we had done at dad's NH place for 94-95 (didn't in 93-94 due both to the suddenness and timing of his passing and our wish to have bathroom privileges during our 2-day visits to check on things.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Could this be the biggest weather impact event of the season for New England? 1-2.5" of qpf with a big cold high to the northeast. Impossible forecast for sensible weather in any one location but someone is going to have a potential big freezing rain situation going on with sleet and snow to the north. Long event too. Bigger event all and all over a general 6-12" snow storm. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Don’t forget to slash a bit off those totals as usual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 On 12/27/2019 at 8:13 PM, tamarack said: Thanks. We're sitting on an offer of $6,000 for a 13kw, fully installed including the necessary cut-out to protect lineworkers. However, we're still researching propane sources and installation prices. We may have to wait thru winter as the ground between the generator and fuel setups probably has 12"+ frost and it's getting deeper. (One company said they could run the gas pipe above ground temporarily, but I'm not in favor as we need to keep a path open there for oil delivery - and for access to my max-min thermometer. ) Sort of like winterizing a summer home https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.clickondetroit.com/news/2017/03/09/how-to-prevent-your-pipes-from-freezing-when-you-have-no-heat/%3foutputType=amp Today's outage is either the 4th or 5th since the equinox, and things seem to be worsening year by year. I'd rather not be taking all those steps with that kind of frequency, might omit something important (like the furnace emergency switch) and have damage costing nearly as much as the gen. That winterizing process is what we had done at dad's NH place for 94-95 (didn't in 93-94 due both to the suddenness and timing of his passing and our wish to have bathroom privileges during our 2-day visits to check on things.) Expand I didn’t realize they happened so often. Then it makes sense. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 On 12/27/2019 at 8:12 PM, Damage In Tolland said: No Kev few weeks? Expand I think you may be near southern edge of big ice....we may see things tic north, but the low level cold push is also probably being undermodeled. These factors may negate one another? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 27, 2019 Author Share Posted December 27, 2019 On 12/27/2019 at 8:16 PM, 40/70 Benchmark said: I think you may be near southern edge of big ice....we may see things tic north, but the low level cold push is also probably being undermodeled. These factors may negate one another? Expand Press before the pull?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 On 12/27/2019 at 8:15 PM, HoarfrostHubb said: I didn’t realize they happened so often. Then it makes sense. Good luck Expand Thanks. In Jan 1998, 4 days w/o power was an adventure but we were young and foolish then, now no longer young. Back to the thread's topic - seems like lots of potential for this event, especially up my way. But lots of bust potential as well. Folks mentioning the Boxing Day storm (presumably for the similar date, not similar setup) has me recalling how the Euro and GFS would switch back and forth from cutter to wide right on alternating runs (in opposite directions) in the 3-6 days out range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 On 12/27/2019 at 8:20 PM, dryslot said: Press before the pull?? Expand No thanks, Mr. Kraft. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 On 12/27/2019 at 8:16 PM, 40/70 Benchmark said: I think you may be near southern edge of big ice....we may see things tic north, but the low level cold push is also probably being undermodeled. These factors may negate one another? Expand Any elevation in RI and CT will likely be below 32 with that pig HP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCAPEWEATHERAF Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 At least I won't have to worry about breaking my back if I slip on ice, because there won't be ice to slip on the next few weeks. Rain is at least a safe precipitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 On 12/27/2019 at 8:24 PM, Damage In Tolland said: Any elevation in RI and CT will likely be below 32 with that pig HP Expand Especially northeast CT and RI...proximity to source region is important. Northeast is coldest.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 NAM is ugly for WMA, NW CT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 On 12/27/2019 at 8:37 PM, Bostonseminole said: NAM is ugly for WMA, NW CT Expand Ugly how? Lots of ice? Or ugly warm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 On 12/27/2019 at 8:25 PM, 40/70 Benchmark said: Especially northeast CT and RI...proximity to source region is important. Northeast is coldest.. Expand Yeah NW CT is lesser impact in this scenario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 On 12/27/2019 at 8:39 PM, WinterWolf said: Ugly how? Lots of ice? Or ugly warm? Expand ice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 On 12/27/2019 at 7:58 PM, Damage In Tolland said: Wow that Euro map is a grid destroyer NW/ NE CT hills Expand I think that's the GEM, the EC is the other map. Correct me if I'm wrong.....while this says accumulated, isn't it actually the total rainfall while the temp is below freezing not the anticipated accretion? Speaking of which....how are the modeled rain rates of this? I know for big ice one doesn't want it too heavy unless it's damn cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?rh=2019122718&fh=84&dpdt=&mc=&r=us_ne&p=zr_acc&m=nam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 On 12/27/2019 at 8:40 PM, Damage In Tolland said: Yeah NW CT is lesser impact in this scenario Expand Well according to those maps that were posted...NW CT had more depicted. Not that those are right, but that’s what it showed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 On 12/27/2019 at 8:45 PM, WinterWolf said: Well according to those maps that were posted...NW CT had more depicted. Not that those are right, but that’s what it showed. Expand Yea, It's probably under selling cold drain back east. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 NAM way colder. Western Ma and NW CT bullseye.. still a few days away hoping for a colder trend.. if not definitely will take a weenie drive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 I agree with Ray, probably shift that icing east also, maybe more sleet in the bullseye zones currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 NAM brings a couple inches of snow to end.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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