40/70 Benchmark Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 hour ago, ORH_wxman said: I dunno if I'd call that winter crap. BOS had a 21 inch storm in January 1978. Id say a more hopeful analog might be something like '68-'69 or '12-'13. Both went into February with really paltry snowfall totals in BOS and coastal areas but both seasons are remembered fondly...multiple blockbuster events occurred after that (Feb '13/Mar '13 and the Lindsay Storm and Feb 24-28, 1969)....both had the NAO going favorable though. Would be nice to see that happen this year too. Yea, false statement...not sure what Bob meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 hour ago, ORH_wxman said: I dunno if I'd call that winter crap. BOS had a 21 inch storm in January 1978. Id say a more hopeful analog might be something like '68-'69 or '12-'13. Both went into February with really paltry snowfall totals in BOS and coastal areas but both seasons are remembered fondly...multiple blockbuster events occurred after that (Feb '13/Mar '13 and the Lindsay Storm and Feb 24-28, 1969)....both had the NAO going favorable though. Would be nice to see that happen this year too. I think that January storm was the #1 event all time for Boston up until Feb 6... of course it had all melted by then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 hour ago, HoarfrostHubb said: I think that January storm was the #1 event all time for Boston up until Feb 6... of course it had all melted by then Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 It hadn't entirely melted...I think BOS had like a 3" snow depth and ORH was around 12" when the Feb '78 blizzard hit. The Cleveland superbomb on the 25th-26th had done a number on the pack for sure though. There were two warning criteria snowfalls before the Jan 20 incher too.....most areas had a snow depth around 30" before the Cleveland superbomb. Honestly, the CLE superbomb prob saved a great deal of extra snow removal pain. Those two warning events before the huge Jan snowstorm were messy sleet mixed in too...so there was a ton of water equivalent in the pack and snow banks. I've seen pics of ORH before the Feb '78 storm and it's huge snow banks already even with the CLE superbomb trimming them down some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 hour ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Yea, false statement...not sure what Bob meant. How much snow had fallen in Boston up til that Jan 20th storm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said: How much snow had fallen in Boston up til that Jan 20th storm? Looks like 20.3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 minute ago, OceanStWx said: Looks like 20.3" 85" overall including the 2 biggies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Just now, HoarfrostHubb said: 85" overall including the 2 biggies It is kind of amazing that outside of the blizzard, BOS only had 0.1" the rest of February. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: Looks like 20.3" So around average to date? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said: So around average to date? Yeah slightly above average....BOS averages say 20" mark should be hit Jan 23th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torch Tiger Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 7 hours ago, HoarfrostHubb said: We have no control over it. I was responding to BIrving’s post about how people are handling it. I love snow. I get out and enjoy it as much as I can plus it affects my work. But am I going to spazz because I didn’t get this amount or that storm? Nope. it's so bad lately that we need mets to spoon feed the tumultuous weenies positive information, just to keep the threads from being derailed by crybabies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmanmitch Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 I'm done! Totally chucking this pathetic excuse of a winter out the window! Not as bad as 2015-16, but still bad to say the least! We've not had a single event exceed the 4-5" range all winter besides the one big bomb. If it was colder and we kept the pack around more, it would be much better, but the rainy cutters and thaws have sucked! Making matters worse is the poor performance of the models teasing us with snowstorms all season. Even the normally more trusty Euro has had some massive fails lately...this weekend's "storm" notwithstanding. I haven't seen such a severe correction with regards to the placement of a 500 mb low this close to verification time in a good long while. They are definitely struggling with this fast, zonal pattern with no blocking and a SE ridge. Last year had a lot of similarities to this year, but was a little colder overall and we did get some decent events in January even if they underachieved due to sleet or freezing rain contamination. I'm happy we got that one nice bowling ball that nailed locations around my latitude back at the start of December. Otherwise this winter has resembled the aforementioned ratter along with others like 2001-2, 2005-6, and to some extent 2011-12. At least 2011-12 featured Snowtober and some decent upslope events. We can't even get a decent upslope event this year with storms cruising along at such a fast pace. Maybe we get a transient cold pattern and another rogue storm sometime on February or March, for which I will be exceedingly grateful. However, psychologically, I'm out. I look for sustained cold and snowy patterns that build and retain a deep pack in a good winter, and I don't see that happening anytime soon. Besides the sun angle is creeping upward and the days getting longer now. Sure good years sometimes have relaxations and thaws, but when arcane monotony dominates over invigoration and excitement, it's time to toss and move on. Someone fire up the lawn thread... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice1972 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 13 minutes ago, wxmanmitch said: I'm done! Totally chucking this pathetic excuse of a winter out the window! Not as bad as 2015-16, but still bad to say the least! We've not had a single event exceed the 4-5" range all winter besides the one big bomb. If it was colder and we kept the pack around more, it would be much better, but the rainy cutters and thaws have sucked! Making matters worse is the poor performance of the models teasing us with snowstorms all season. Even the normally more trusty Euro has had some massive fails lately...this weekend's "storm" notwithstanding. I haven't seen such a severe correction with regards to the placement of a 500 mb low this close to verification time in a good long while. They are definitely struggling with this fast, zonal pattern with no blocking and a SE ridge. Last year had a lot of similarities to this year, but was a little colder overall and we did get some decent events in January even if they underachieved due to sleet or freezing rain contamination. I'm happy we got that one nice bowling ball that nailed locations around my latitude back at the start of December. Otherwise this winter has resembled the aforementioned ratter along with others like 2001-2, 2005-6, and to some extent 2011-12. At least 2011-12 featured Snowtober and some decent upslope events. We can't even get a decent upslope event this year with storms cruising along at such a fast pace. Maybe we get a transient cold pattern and another rogue storm sometime on February or March, for which I will be exceedingly grateful. However, psychologically, I'm out. I look for sustained cold and snowy patterns that build and retain a deep pack in a good winter, and I don't see that happening anytime soon. Besides the sun angle is creeping upward and the days getting longer now. Sure good years sometimes have relaxations and thaws, but when arcane monotony dominates over invigoration and excitement, it's time to toss and move on. Someone fire up the lawn thread... But the Winter @ Hour 240 has been epic....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 We lost Mitch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Just need scooter to have a full tilt melt. Hes come close a few times. Teetering like the guy at the bar leaning against the post....but he somehow staggers to the bar for a few steps without falling down before regaining his composure and ordering another drink. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torch Tiger Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 hour ago, wxmanmitch said: I'm done! Totally chucking this pathetic excuse of a winter out the window! Not as bad as 2015-16, but still bad to say the least! We've not had a single event exceed the 4-5" range all winter besides the one big bomb. If it was colder and we kept the pack around more, it would be much better, but the rainy cutters and thaws have sucked! Making matters worse is the poor performance of the models teasing us with snowstorms all season. Even the normally more trusty Euro has had some massive fails lately...this weekend's "storm" notwithstanding. I haven't seen such a severe correction with regards to the placement of a 500 mb low this close to verification time in a good long while. They are definitely struggling with this fast, zonal pattern with no blocking and a SE ridge. Last year had a lot of similarities to this year, but was a little colder overall and we did get some decent events in January even if they underachieved due to sleet or freezing rain contamination. I'm happy we got that one nice bowling ball that nailed locations around my latitude back at the start of December. Otherwise this winter has resembled the aforementioned ratter along with others like 2001-2, 2005-6, and to some extent 2011-12. At least 2011-12 featured Snowtober and some decent upslope events. We can't even get a decent upslope event this year with storms cruising along at such a fast pace. Maybe we get a transient cold pattern and another rogue storm sometime on February or March, for which I will be exceedingly grateful. However, psychologically, I'm out. I look for sustained cold and snowy patterns that build and retain a deep pack in a good winter, and I don't see that happening anytime soon. Besides the sun angle is creeping upward and the days getting longer now. Sure good years sometimes have relaxations and thaws, but when arcane monotony dominates over invigoration and excitement, it's time to toss and move on. Someone fire up the lawn thread... reverse psychology, been there done that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 We need Garth’s snowblower pic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 So can this thread do double duty with Wuhan virus hysteria when the time comes? Because at least that is looking pretty bullish in the modeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, Hoth said: So can this thread do double duty with Wuhan virus hysteria when the time comes? Because at least that is looking pretty bullish in the modeling. Is the Corona virus as bad as the beer? Asking for a friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 8 hours ago, Ginx snewx said: Is the Corona virus as bad as the beer? Asking for a friend A lime will cure all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 15 hours ago, ORH_wxman said: Just need scooter to have a full tilt melt. Hes come close a few times. Teetering like the guy at the bar leaning against the post....but he somehow staggers to the bar for a few steps without falling down before regaining his composure and ordering another drink. Yelling at random strangers as they walk to the bathroom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Scooter won’t melt unless everyone crushes again and he sees rain. This weekend could have done that if it hadn’t trended to-region wide rhea Really don’t see that on horizon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Seems like my latitude maybe doing best relative to normal seems NNE maybe doing pretty bad relative to normal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice1972 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 lol the GFS.......North Carolina special followed by bone job cutter and finally the money shot at 360.....what a winter.... SO BONED.....SO BONED...... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Patten changes post 1/20..... Into an alternate version of Rhea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice1972 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Rhea me this....Rhea me that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 On 1/23/2020 at 10:31 PM, Ginx snewx said: Is the Corona virus as bad as the beer? Asking for a friend looks like Ro= 1.4-2.5 for reference, the typical flu is < 2.. so time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
512high Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Wow, I thought this room would be filling up by now..................... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice1972 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 SO BONED......SO BONED.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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