Itstrainingtime Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jns2183 said: 1993-1994 75.9” 1994-1995 9” 1995-1996 77.6” Basically the least snowiest winter ever sandwiched by 2 of top 5 snowiest winters ever . Pro Thanks! How much did MDT record in 97-98? On CTP's site I only see records that go back to 1998-99. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, pasnownut said: little more ridging early on for Euro. Not getting a good feeling about the next panels....#stupidtrends End result is slightly better than the GFS but snow is mainly still limited to the far North part of the state and even that is much reduced. Surface low appears to have taken my Philly recommend is now going to visit Bucks County and the Lehigh Valley. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasnownut Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Just now, Bubbler86 said: Its almost unimaginable to consider getting 70+ inches now. There would have to be no cutters and the jet stream would literally have to be running over us from Nanook the whole season. I"m old enough to remember many dud years, so while I'm down right now....I've/we've been down before. Big diff between now and then is that we didnt have easy access to computer models and "trusted" the radio weather forecasts. Now we can live and die 4 times a day and with more than a handful of useful models....thats alot of stressin. Maybe ignorance really is bliss.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, pasnownut said: I"m old enough to remember many dud years, so while I'm down right now....I've/we've been down before. Big diff between now and then is that we didnt have easy access to computer models and "trusted" the radio weather forecasts. Now we can live and die 4 times a day and with more than a handful of useful models....thats alot of stressin. Maybe ignorance really is bliss.... 100% agree with this sentiment. Without the computer models we never really see as much potential for this weekend just the NWS AFD's saying it was something to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasnownut Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Primary is killing this thing for many of us. that needs to die a quicker death, but why would it. Primarys die when the meet too much resistance (ie. cold). The less the resistance, the longer it lives. Nuff said....done....next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 16 minutes ago, Jns2183 said: Oct 5.5” Nov 0” Dec 0.1” Jan. 4.5” Feb 2.4” March 0” Total 12.5” That's really quite impressive when you think about it. The most snow of any month that winter came only one month removed from summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Maybe he is just busy like I have been but I think the most accurate model this year has been the @daxx 1.0. Regardless of why if he is not posting its not going to snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said: Maybe he is just busy like I have been but I think the most accurate model this year has been the @daxx 1.0. Regardless of why if he is not posting its not going to snow. I'll pass this along to him. He's a freaking weather genius. Dude could easily carry a red tag. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jns2183 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Thanks! How much did MDT record in 97-98? On CTP's site I only see records that go back to 1998-99.11.4”From 1989-1990 season to 2018-2019 season MDT recorded 10”- 20” 9 years20”-30” 7 years”30”-40” 4 years40”-50” 3 years50”-60” 2 years60”-70” 0 years70-80” 2 years. Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted January 22, 2020 Author Share Posted January 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, Atomixwx said: The torch year of, what was is? 2012? Was it this miserable snow-wise? I feel like it was much, much warmer that winter, but I also feel like I've never felt this snow starved in my life. I'm 34, so I've lived through the big ones and have had some bad years, but this season just feels exceptionally bad. It has seemed like we've had a lot of swing and misses so far this winter compared to 11-12. Of course that one did have one decent coastal hit.. on Halloween. I remember having a 7-8" snowfall in January, which I just found digging through my pictures. My biggest snowfall to date this winter is 2.0".. so I'd call this one worse so far personally. 11-12 was really warm in Feb-March if I recall correctly and that winter was different ENSO wise, being a solid La Nina the whole winter. Obviously things still have time to turn around in this one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Clause Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Euro is ugly.... next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jns2183 said: 11.4” From 1989-1990 season to 2018-2019 season MDT recorded 10”- 20” 9 years 20”-30” 7 years” 30”-40” 4 years 40”-50” 3 years 50”-60” 2 years 60”-70” 0 years 70-80” 2 years . Pro Thanks again. I knew it was godawful. I'm pretty sure I had even less than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jns2183 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 What’s amazing to me is some of the winters in the 60’s. Biggest storm in some of them was 12” but that decade had season snowfalls of 81.7”, 74.7”, 60.6”, 51.6”, 50.5”, 48.4”, 42.6”, 31.8”, 25”. Those huge snowfall totals came from having 6-10 storms that were 6-12”. Some of those winters had snow on the ground from early December through beginning of March straight though. If that happened today people in this area would think we were in the artic. Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jns2183 said: What’s amazing to me is some of the winters in the 60’s. Biggest storm in some of them was 12” but that decade had season snowfalls of 81.7”, 74.7”, 60.6”, 51.6”, 50.5”, 48.4”, 42.6”, 31.8”, 25”. Those huge snowfall totals came from having 6-10 storms that were 6-12”. Some of those winters had snow on the ground from early December through beginning of March straight though. If that happened today people in this area would think we were in the artic . Pro And the changes cannot be blamed on weather stations being in different locations. Many people argue that with global warming the areas affected will get colder first, due to the melt off of ice caps, before the eventual warm up and change. Maybe the 60's were the beginning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jns2183 said: What’s amazing to me is some of the winters in the 60’s. Biggest storm in some of them was 12” but that decade had season snowfalls of 81.7”, 74.7”, 60.6”, 51.6”, 50.5”, 48.4”, 42.6”, 31.8”, 25”. Those huge snowfall totals came from having 6-10 storms that were 6-12”. Some of those winters had snow on the ground from early December through beginning of March straight though. If that happened today people in this area would think we were in the artic . Pro Yep, I was born in '65 and have Polaroids of me as a small kid (late 60s) standing outside with huge banks of snow on both sides of our driveway. Dad told me often as I got older that snow rarely melted until March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 26 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said: Thanks! How much did MDT record in 97-98? On CTP's site I only see records that go back to 1998-99. All my notes back into the 90s were destroyed so i can't help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jns2183 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 If anyone can pull charts or other data about the pattern that decade then do so and study it because it truly was like no decade in the 50 years before or after. Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jns2183 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 The 1900-1960 was horrible for snow in this area. The 60’s was just some anomaly. Just like in the last 20 years having so so many 12”+ events. . Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said: Yep, I was born in '65 and have Polaroids of me as a small kid (late 60s) standing outside with huge banks of snow on both sides of our driveway. Dad told me often as I got older that snow rarely melted until March. 2 years older then you, but yes, that is what i recall. we did everything outside and it just seemed like we dealt with snow until baseball season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Euro is going to snow on us the Friday after this one. Here we go again. This time the fantasy storm is a cutting low running into a 1028 High. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jns2183 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 . Pro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jns2183 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 From the winter of 1889-1900 till 1959-1960 they had recorded only 3 winters with 50”+ with the largest of 55.3” in 1917-1918. Then comes the winter of 1960-1961, 81.3”. The next 2 years had winters of 51.6”, 50.5”, 74.7” There you go 4 winters in a row of 50”+ where there had been only 3 in the previous 60 years. Can you imagine the humbling experience it must have been to those that default to climo then? Your top 2 snowiest winters to date then crushing all previous winters easily. I’d say the beginning of the 1960’s was quite traumatic for meteorologists in this area. . Pro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Clause Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 14 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said: Euro is going to snow on us the Friday after this one. Here we go again. This time the fantasy storm is a cutting low running into a 1028 High. Lol I’m done believing until we’re within 24 to 36 hours.... feels like trends and feel should be weighted and models less so after last few awful performances. Even nws bought in to some extent on both. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jns2183 said: From the winter of 1889-1900 till 1959-1960 they had recorded only 3 winters with 50”+ with the largest of 55.3” in 1917-1918. Then comes the winter of 1960-1961, 81.3”. The next 2 years had winters of 51.6”, 50.5”, 74.7” There you go 4 winters in a row of 50”+ where there had been only 3 in the previous 60 years. Can you imagine the humbling experience it must have been to those that default to climo then? Your top 2 snowiest winters to date then crushing all previous winters easily. I’d say the beginning of the 1960’s was quite traumatic for meteorologists in this area. . Pro And kids not wanting to go to school into the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 29 minutes ago, sauss06 said: All my notes back into the 90s were destroyed so i can't help New puppy already making himself at home? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 I have to drive to DC next Friday morning, then return back here Saturday night. I guarantee a snowstorm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, canderson said: I have to drive to DC next Friday morning, then return back here Saturday night. I guarantee a snowstorm. I saw the MA people calling this the Bob Chill storm but we will call in the Canderson Storm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawatch Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 And to add to all the warm tempeture talk,here is this post. @NWSStateCollege 3h Although it may not feel like it today or tomorrow, climatologically speaking we are at the coldest part of winter! Normal temperatures start to trend upward next week as we begin the slow climb toward Spring. #PAwx pic.twitter.com/J8sDgIy3cV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said: I saw the MA people calling this the Bob Chill storm but we will call in the Canderson Storm. Bob Chill is an excellent poster and knowledgeable weather guru - if he is seeing a signal that's a good sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, canderson said: Bob Chill is an excellent poster and knowledgeable weather guru - if he is seeing a signal that's a good sign. yep, i go there to read his stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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