Typhoon Tip Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 That's how you run a -EPO downloading ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbenedet Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, dendrite said: I think it’s overdone too, but other models still have the wedge cutting into the CAD zone in NH. Hopefully it gets overwhelmed by the WAA. I don’t need 30s and +RA while it’s speedos and coronas by the Mass border. Yea. I think this is one of those cases where the tuck really underperforms vs climo. We warm up to near 60 before the wedge makes its strongest push Sunday am. If we had cold at onset of developing wedge, I’d be a much bigger believer on being on the wrong side of the gradient for the duration. I’m thinking the 32F isotherm ends up from Portland to Lake Winne, and has staying power there. Maybe we hit 40ish Sunday morning but warm back up to mid 50’s as surface hp booted East and before fropa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitzbuhel Craver Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Holy shite! Canada is cold on that depiction! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, Kitzbuhel Craver said: Holy shite! Canada is cold on that depiction! The seasonal trend of lows tracking to our W and flooding warm layers will eventually get pushed a bit more underneath us while also tapping into colder air quicker/easier..aka, good times ahead even if the rna remains or fluctuates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitzbuhel Craver Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: The seasonal trend of lows tracking to our W and flooding warm layers will eventually get pushed a bit more underneath us while also tapping into colder air quicker/easier..aka, good times ahead even if the rna remains or fluctuates. No way SLP’s can just plow through that kind of cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 I'm watching that CAD signature in my area. Like Brian said don't need a 31F ZR event. So many times I just hang on with cold air coming from the northeast. Meanwhile a nippy day 13.3F at noon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJOatleast7 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 40 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: That's how you run a -EPO downloading ... and also how you run a LES event. Watch out Houghton, MI to Tug Hill if that happens. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 15 minutes ago, Kitzbuhel Craver said: No way SLP’s can just plow through that kind of cold. Cutters will always find a way to cut so don’t whistle past the graveyard but yeah, nice look for overrunning events. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 19 minutes ago, Kitzbuhel Craver said: No way SLP’s can just plow through that kind of cold. lol ok gl with that BUT...that is not what I said anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitzbuhel Craver Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: lol ok gl with that BUT...that is not what I said anyway. No, no.. that is my centre’s call, lol. Just saying It’s far better than what have been dealing with and like some others have alluded, yourself included, that look will lend itself to overrunning/swfe and low pressure redevelopment in a more favorable position than BVT, lol.. If I’m reading you right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 We bandy the euphemism 'nuke' around but man, that GGEM next week ... that is a bomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 37 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: lol ok gl with that BUT...that is not what I said anyway. suppression fears already by some folks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 This weekend is the high water mark for the warmth. Many sne locations will be +10-15 for the first half of January. We’ll see how much we can lop off of that in the second half...particularly post 1/20. Kudos to Kevin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Euro not biting on the big cold with the wedge this weekend....probably correct too. I feel like the wedge will be dirtier with 30s/40s and not temps of 18F within 25 miles of 60s like some of those clown GFS solutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 I better hit 55f + if we gonna be ugly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, weathafella said: This weekend is the high water mark for the warmth. Many sne locations will be +10-15 for the first half of January. We’ll see how much we can lop off of that in the second half...particularly post 1/20. Kudos to Kevin. While I did say no snow post Jan 20 to go along with that , we had a little. It was minimal and limited , so that part was not correct, but also had some sense of recognition as most places in true SNE saw less than 4” of actual snow . Just an awful period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: While I did say no snow post Jan 20 to go along with that , we had a little. It was minimal and limited , so that part was not correct, but also had some sense of recognition as most places in true SNE saw less than 4” of actual snow . Just an awful period Your talking about the next 11 days from the puzzling perspective of looking back ...ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 4 hours ago, ORH_wxman said: We're gonna wedge on Sunday I bet....might not be frozen, and could be a miserable 37F rain, but I bet at least pike-north drains. The topography will want to force it...you'll get the little mesolow protrusion into the Gulf of Maine off Cape Ann or something that will drive everything SW. RFTCRW (Ray for the colder rain win). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 23 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: Your talking about the next 11 days from the puzzling perspective of looking back ...ya Yeah there's a couple chances for more snow...admittedly, the closer we get to 1/20, the better...no doubt about later January looking better...but 1/17-18 is looking like a favorable period for something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 28 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: Your talking about the next 11 days from the puzzling perspective of looking back ...ya First legit shot is 17-18th 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Kitzbuhel Craver said: No, no.. that is my centre’s call, lol. Just saying It’s far better than what have been dealing with and like some others have alluded, yourself included, that look will lend itself to overrunning/swfe and low pressure redevelopment in a more favorable position than BVT, lol.. If I’m reading you right Yes. Good times ahead. But, still doesn’t mean cutters or pos kitchen sink systems won’t occur. Just less of them imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Bostonseminole said: suppression fears already by some folks? Zero fears for the south zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: Zero fears for the south zone. Those would come from up here but i don't see any reason for that yet, But if a rex block appears, You can stick it where the sun don't shine........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 The 1/17-18 setup looks semi-favorable because we get some transient ATL ridging into Greenland and transient 50/50 low which helps out a bit...it could still obviously fail. The PAC is still reshuffling at that time but the WPO/EPO block is folding over which eventually realigns into a more of a PNA/EPO ridge combo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulyFromPlattsburgh Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: The 1/17-18 setup looks semi-favorable because we get some transient ATL ridging into Greenland and transient 50/50 low which helps out a bit...it could still obviously fail. The PAC is still reshuffling at that time but the WPO/EPO block is folding over which eventually realigns into a more of a PNA/EPO ridge combo. The AAO also stays negative but I am not sure the effect that has on the pattern. It is starting to move to neutral /positive tho mid to late January . The AAO has been negative since early October. I wonder what a neutral to positive AAO would do to east coast storm systems leading into the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, PaulyFromPlattsburgh said: The AAO also stays negative but I am not sure the effect that has on the pattern. It is starting to move to neutral /positive tho mid to late January . The AAO has been negative since early October. I wonder what a neutral to positive AAO would do to east coast storm systems leading into the future The AAO (Antarctic Oscillation) is southern hemisphere....that's their version of the AO. Did you mean AO? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 EPS continues to be out of control weenie-ish in the long range. It looks a lot like 2015 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PaulyFromPlattsburgh Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 13 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: The AAO (Antarctic Oscillation) is southern hemisphere....that's their version of the AO. Did you mean AO? You answered it. Thank you. I was talking about AAO. Didn’t realize that was only for Southern Hemisphere. Thank you for clearing that up. I do know the AO is indeed trending in our direction, after being very positive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanks45 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: time to stock up on firewood and fill the oil tanks.....I hope the snow bullseye sets up about 150ish miles to the west, for personal reasons obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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