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January 2020 Discussion


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Meh... not until “we see the white of the flakes” this season do we get excited. It’s been exhausting tracking these 200hr+ threats for pennies and nickels, Which uncharacteristically to this forum, we have indulged in. Yes, the pattern looks good going forward for a time. I will remain cautiously optimistic, but guarded also. Let us join together, in collective prayer, that the stars don’t align for the Mid Atlantic to get a biggie during our favored period and we are all on the sidelines. I think the board would self destruct if that were the case.

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This season is going to have to sh*t or get off the pot I think in the next 10-15 days. Conflicting signs in the medium term.... could easily strike out in the next few weeks... very plausible path to not much happening.

If we get into the first week of feb and the only thing we’ve had is this dog sh*t SWFE this weekend.... might be time to shut it down.

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1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said:

SE MA is due for a few seasons where they get like 25-30" and Ray to ORH is in the 80"+ range. Then again, we're all due for a ratters in a row too....interior included.

Yep, lord knows we tried to tell them. Not saying it has to be this year, but it's coming. 

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2 minutes ago, forkyfork said:

there's no such thing as "due" in weather

Not in any one given trial....but over the longer run things will regress to the long term averages. There's no way we're going to keep averaging like 75-80" of snow like since the early 1990s.

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7 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said:

How can you be so sure?

You can't be 100% sure of course....but we have history to guide us. Past stretches of prolific snows that lasted a couple decades were compensated for at some point....likewise, our worst putrid stretches eventually regressed back to our long term climo.

It's like flipping a coin....if you flip 10 heads in a row, you still have a 50% chance on the next flip....but you can be pretty reasonable and say "we're probably going to not keeping flipping heads every time and get plenty of tails on our next 10 flips....we'll probably also get a streak of a bunch of tails too at some point".....we just don't know exactly when.

The only complication is that unlike a coin, the climate does change...both anthropogenic and natural...though if you try and take into account for that, you could argue for an even steeper regression. Though on the scale of decades, we've tended to regeress toward the long term mean even during periods of fast climate change.

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You can look at recent winters vs long term and look at the departures. That corridor in SE MA that is away from the Cape and S of Boston is the most anomalous from a positive standpoint. Sure they have a higher standard deviation than many....but good lord the departures are absurd. Even in the shit winters of 15/16 and last year, I pulled near normal in 15/16 and just AN thanks to the March bomb last year. We can't keep pulling snow out of our behinds forever. 

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