TJ3 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, WEATHER53 said: Most memorable from 94 was the day it was 11 at 11am and 1 at 5pm, overnight low record tying (for me) -6. Didn’t we also have a day where it snowed about 2-3 inches in the afternoon with a temperature at DCA of 7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER53 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, TJ3 said: Didn’t we also have a day where it snowed about 2-3 inches in the afternoon with a temperature at DCA of 7? I think it was more like 12/13 but still bitter cold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighStakes Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 38 minutes ago, losetoa6 said: Agree. It was an incredibly cold winter with lots of record low max hi's and lows and lots of ICE and MIXED events. A couple days with Highs near 0 to 5 above ( Sparky probably has records) The one event I got 4-5" of sleet and 20 miles north big snow totals Yup. I remember being up in York PA that January and there was 10-12 inches on the ground while I had about 3-4 in Reisterstown and about 6-7 in my current location. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolz1 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Looking at the EPS D10-15 members...a lot of slow moving arctic fronts with waves moving riding the fronts. Some we win and some we dont. Obviously, ens arent going to pick up on a threat like they would if we had a miller A out of the gulf. Again, reminiscent of 14/15. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Its a Breeze Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Knew '94 would be mentioned. Fun times. Less aches, pains, bumps, and bruises with snow, but man I loved all the ice that year. ....except when the power went out, which fortunately was only brief as yeah, it was pretty brutal outside. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Ji said: lol what happened to -QBO and blocking. Euro shows -EPO but severe NAO and AO Blocking? Dude, I gave up on that a month ago. A -NAO could pop out of nowhere but the AO is likely to stay + imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRWx's Thanks Giving Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 The MJO is alive and well, so winter will return with vengeance in a few weeks (though probably next month)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Bob Chill said: Yep, but man did we have some luck on our side during those periods. Ridge/trough axis kept lining up. Don't forget 93-94 as that was a very similar pattern with much different results. 93/94 had such a crazy sharp gradient between places that had a ton of snow and not much. You didn’t have to go far. The closest coop to here in Millers had 44” that winter. That’s only a little above normal but they had snow otg from early January until late March. An incredible run. It seemed like every storm here was like 4” of snow followed by lots of ice. Places not far north of here stayed all snow and had 70”+ that winter. Every storm followed a similar track vs 2015 and 2014 which shifted the boundary around enough to get more regions into the fun. One caution, 2014 was the best but it had a helpful AO much of the time and even some NAO help in periods. If we get the ridge bridge look on the gefs and geps 2014 could be a good match. But if the AO stays positive like the Euro that puts us into a pattern more like Feb 1993, 1994, and 2015. 2015 was the best and it could go down that way again, but the other 2 had a lot of frustration with a string of snowstorms missing just to the northwest. But that look is still light years better than anything lately but given our choice the GEFS look with the epo AND tanking NAM is the better option to get everyone into the action imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristowWx Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Hr 288-300 is weather porn. The good kind. Op run sure but that would be just so darn fun..pardon the language 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 2 hours ago, HighStakes said: There was a lot of ice even up here although I lived in reisterstown then. I think I was around 30. Probably broke 40 up here. The snow line ran more north/south with a lot of systems that year if memory serves. Being west helped some but not as much as usual unless you were more northwest. This is the snowfall recorded by the coop in Millers a few miles east of us. We have a little elevation advantage but I find their totals to be close to ours most storms. The second to last number is snowfall, the last is depth. They had snowcover from the storm on Jan 4th until sometime after the one on March 18th! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighStakes Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 14 minutes ago, psuhoffman said: This is the snowfall recorded by the coop in Millers a few miles east of us. We have a little elevation advantage but I find their totals to be close to ours most storms. The second to last number is snowfall, the last is depth. They had snowcover from the storm on Jan 4th until sometime after the one on March 18th! That's an amazing run. The total snowfall for the season is pretty much what I thought. Thanks. I love looking at historical records like this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 33 minutes ago, BristowWx said: Hr 288-300 is weather porn. The good kind. Op run sure but that would be just so darn fun..pardon the language that would be the most fun storm since jan 2016 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVclimo Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 18 minutes ago, psuhoffman said: This is the snowfall recorded by the coop in Millers a few miles east of us. We have a little elevation advantage but I find their totals to be close to ours most storms. The second to last number is snowfall, the last is depth. They had snowcover from the storm on Jan 4th until sometime after the one on March 18th! You can see that a lot of ice mixed in with the snow even up your way, when you see how much liquid produced some of those snowfalls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ji said: that would be the most fun storm since jan 2016 18z gefs says tune up your ice scraper. I've never seen so many long range snow to ice storms on an ens run. There are some big snows in the mix but the theme of the run is snow to ice or just ice starting around 1/16 but gets really busy from the 19th onward. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, losetoa6 said: Probably mentioned but Gefs has a few members that throw frozen our way as early as next Thursday Looks like we won't be getting much sleep beginning in about a week. Anyone who's insane like us and stays up for the euro when things are ripe needs to plan accordingly 15 2 5 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Mike Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Is the bus ready? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRWx's Thanks Giving Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 27 minutes ago, Bob Chill said: Looks like we won't be getting much sleep beginning in about a week. Anyone who's insane like us and stays up for the euro when things are ripe needs to plan accordingly You all left me hanging Monday night! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowmagnet Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Bob Chill said: Yep, but man did we have some luck on our side during those periods. Ridge/trough axis kept lining up. Don't forget 93-94 as that was a very similar pattern with much different results. I remember, during one or both of those years, we didn’t have good luck with a - NAO, but got lucky with a 50/50 or PV acting as a -NAO. I don’t remember the details, but it was a fun couple of months both years. I followed DT at the time and learned a lot about the teleconnections. I didn’t find this forum until later in 2015. If we can have something along those lines, we should be pretty happy around here. It’s at least, very encouraging. Thank you (and others on here) for all of your long range analysis. It is really appreciated by those of us who don’t know how to read these maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino16 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 But... all the rain behind it reminds me of that line from Chocolate Rain “Every February washed away” Stay with us frozen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbmclean Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 54 minutes ago, Bob Chill said: Looks like we won't be getting much sleep beginning in about a week. Anyone who's insane like us and stays up for the euro when things are ripe needs to plan accordingly I prefer that way to the alternative where I am loosing sleep because I'm emotionally disturbed by the torch. Realistically, not a good look for the SE for frozen, but I will take dry cold shots over Pacific Doom Blob any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 March 3 1994 was a heartbreaker...I remember the heavy snow turning into soaking rain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristowWx Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ji said: March 3 1994 was a heartbreaker...I remember the heavy snow turning into soaking rain The best if you must have mixed precip is ice to snow. It’s usually the other way with a departing high. Snow to ice then ending is not bad either. Anything that doesn’t involve rain really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 47 minutes ago, Ji said: March 3 1994 was a heartbreaker...I remember the heavy snow turning into soaking rain I'm sure you onky like 1 of these solutions but it's a bit of an eye opener seeing how many members have 2 frozen events between the 18th-24th. Best GEFS run yet for activity. Maybe we get a region wide 2-4" with a layer of sleet and ice on top to build a concrete base and then get a big all snow storm on top of that. That's exactly what P3 is. Lol 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopper Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 5 hours ago, HighStakes said: 93-94 was so close to having big totals. It's one thing to have so many mixed events with marginal cold or weak antecedent air masses but to have them in frigid conditions because the depth of the cold was so shallow has got to be a 1 in 200 year type winter. It was my first year teaching in Baltimore County Schools. We missed so many days due to ice that that tacked on 30 minutes to each day for the last month of school. Also had to teach on Memorial Day. But the amount of ice was incredible! Loved it!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbmclean Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 I was out of circulation on the GEFS the last few days, other than what people were posting. Did it fully cave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 4 hours ago, HighStakes said: 93-94 was so close to having big totals. It's one thing to have so many mixed events with marginal cold or weak antecedent air masses but to have them in frigid conditions because the depth of the cold was so shallow has got to be a 1 in 200 year type winter. Pretty sure I’ve mentioned this before on the boards, but I was in Lewisburg, PA that year. I remember heading up there from South Jersey after winter break on one of the coldest days of that winter, and Philly was covered in ice and steam from all the buildings - like a scene from a Soviet factory city on the Volga or something. We seemingly got snow after snow after snow, with an icing here and there for good measure. Not sure what we ended up with, but it had to have been 75”, give or take 10” or so. There was fairly deep snow on the ground for weeks and weeks on end - an absolutely unreal stretch of weather that I’m glad to have experienced. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighStakes Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, mattie g said: Pretty sure I’ve mentioned this before on the boards, but I was in Lewisburg, PA that year. I remember heading up there from South Jersey after winter break on one of the coldest days of that winter, and Philly was covered in ice and steam from all the buildings - like a scene from a Soviet factory city on the Volga or something. We seemingly got snow after snow after snow, with an icing here and there for good measure. Not sure what we ended up with, but it had to have been 75”, give or take 10” or so. There was fairly deep snow on the ground for weeks and weeks on end - an absolutely unreal stretch of weather that I’m glad to have experienced. The early March storm that year really crushed parts of PA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Looking better and better up top. TPV displaced southward and ridging building over GL. Got the EPO ridge going a bit bonkers too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 I remember several inches 1st . What did u get ?I think 4 inches of snow first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Looking better and better up top. TPV displaced southward and ridging building over GL. Got the EPO ridge going a bit bonkers too.So now the gefs looks better than the eps haha..its like a tennis match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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