bluewave Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 The temperatures made it down to 32 here in SW Suffolk like the models were showing last few days. All the colder surfaces are covered with some paved areas wet and others white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NycStormChaser Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, The 4 Seasons said: what did central park end up with..so far anyways Probably a trace. I was shooting all over manhattan this morning. We had a few burst of moderate snow but nothing stuck to pavement. Maybe a dusting in the park though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, bluewave said: The temperatures made it down to 32 here in SW Suffolk like the models were showing last few days. All the colder surfaces are covered with some paved areas wet and others white. 30 at Westhampton, 31 here and ISP about 2” on the grass; inch on roads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, RichBailey said: All surfaces covered in west Babylon. 12 hours ago it was 60 degrees. Lots of people need to read that. Why? The comments about the snow not sticking on the pavement were for NYC with temperatures at 33 and 34 degrees. Long Island got heavy enough rates and temperatures falling to freezing. Like I said yesterday, this is why Long Island does better in rain to snow situations than NYC. But NYC can beat Long Island with snow changing to rain. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dWave Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Coating on cars, some patchy areas of slush on grass and wet pavement. If cars count then about 0.5" snow, otherwise a trace. Now 33 with flurries/drizzle. At least they havent buried us in unnecessary salt so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Did get an inch or so on cars; had to clean them off. Back to rain now. Very typical late 80's kinda storm. Still, any snows in Dec usually bode well for us, but I don't know if piddly events count. This will probably put me in the range of around 4 for Dec so far, give or take a half inch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Looks more like 3” on colder surfaces, nice event 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, bluewave said: Why? The comments about the snow not sticking on the pavement were for NYC with temperatures at 33 and 34 degrees. Long Island got heavy enough rates and temperatures falling to freezing. Like I said yesterday, this is why Long Island does better in rain to snow situations than NYC. But NYC can beat Long Island with snow changing to rain. Official forecasts wobbled a bit in the area, but none had more than 1-3, and by this morning were calling for an inch or less. SHows we can't zero in during these kinds of events til they are on top of us. At least we are seeing some snow; some Decembers have been warm enough for tomato seedlings to pop up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purduewx80 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 17 minutes ago, The 4 Seasons said: what did central park end up with..so far anyways haven't seen theirs yet either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowshack Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2.25” on the deck, less on warmer surfaces, 31f with light snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2.25” 5.75” Season thus far. Nice start 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NycStormChaser Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, psv88 said: Looks more like 3” on colder surfaces, nice event Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Light snow/flurries here. Picked up around 1" of accumulation on the colder surfaces. Temp 34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowshack Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, weatherpruf said: Official forecasts wobbled a bit in the area, but none had more than 1-3, and by this morning were calling for an inch or less. SHows we can't zero in during these kinds of events til they are on top of us. At least we are seeing some snow; some Decembers have been warm enough for tomato seedlings to pop up... Upton was rock steady out here with 1-3” in the forecast for the last 2+ days, and nailed the timing well in advance as well. Good job by them .. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Looks like about 3 inches here with enough to plow in the streets. This would have been an enjoyable little event if only the pavement in Manhattan wasn't wet Still snowing, temperature is 30. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 inches here with less on roads, kids have a 2 hr delay. Euro did well on this one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, NorthShoreWx said: Looks like about 3 inches here with enough to plow in the streets. This would have been an enjoyable little event if only the pavement in Manhattan wasn't wet Still snowing, temperature is 30. Your snow doesnt count, silly. This is the ny metro forum, which is only the 5 boroughs. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, weatherpruf said: Official forecasts wobbled a bit in the area, but none had more than 1-3, and by this morning were calling for an inch or less. SHows we can't zero in during these kinds of events til they are on top of us. At least we are seeing some snow; some Decembers have been warm enough for tomato seedlings to pop up... We could see the theme of the event from the weekend model forecasts. Most showed NYC falling to just above freezing. So you knew that if the rates were too low, there wouldn’t be that much accumulation even on colder surfaces. Those 10:1 snow charts are often overdone for areas that can’t fall to freezing when precipitation starts as rain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Gorilla Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Beautiful 3 inch snowfall here where I reside up in Dutchess County Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinalland Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 I got 0.5-0.8” snow in Upper Manhattan (on grass, almost all paved surfaces were wet) However, in downtown Manhattan there’s no snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillz25 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Approaching .5” with this burst of snow here by Prospect Park, Brooklyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Snowing pretty good now Nothing is accumulating here except colder surfaces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purduewx80 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 There are some ocean/bay effect snow showers moving S/SW into Sandy Hook and coastal NNJ now. Low-level lapse rates plus seeding from the synoptic event are helping these out. The north shore of LI will probably get a boost from these, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Now that the heavier band moved to my east, the patches of pavement in SW Suffolk which were were white are becoming wet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gravitylover Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 This back edge band blossomed nicely as it hit the Hudson Highlands and Taconics and gave me another 1/2" so far. It looks like it will be moving through soon though. I'll take this 4 1/2" and be happy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduggs Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 This event was elevationally dependent as expected because of the slope of the thermal front. As is typical, surface cooling lagged mid-level cooling substantially. So elevated areas changed over and began accumulating much sooner than lower areas. And lower/coastal areas had only a brief period of accumulating snow when temps. were marginal. The problem with the snow maps isn't an issue of "sticking" with "warm ground." The issue is that the algorithms tally up all modeled "snow QPF" and display that total. Snow accumulation is different than total modeled precipitation in frozen form. Moderate snow sticks at 33 or 34F with dense overcast. Truly heavy snow sticks at almost any realistic temperature. But even steady light snow typically requires <33F to accomplish more than coating the cars. And the vast majority of snow obs. are light in any given winter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hudsonvalley21 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2.6" here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduggs Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Overall this event was pretty well modeled even from several days out. It was highly trackable and ended up like a standard, prototypical snow event for this area. I'm glad a few spots hit 4", which had been suggested by the guidance as a possibility since last weekend. It looks like it was a general c - 2 inches for the coast and river valleys with 2-5" above 400 feet or so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Weird note from earlier side streets at home were slushy/snowcovered but sidewalks were wet. Definitely different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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