Winter 2020 New England Banter and General Obs

[Bostonseminole]

3 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

What happens when your well has e-coli because of your neighbors doggie doo? The environment impacts from that should be examined. 

hmm.. my dog shits on my yard, should I be worried about his well? crap.

[Bostonseminole]

Just now, Ginx snewx said:

250 foot deep well,  dougie do picked up 2 times a day. Try again. What happens when your diapers end up in Boston Harbor 

u pick up your dogs poop in your yard?

[NorEastermass128]

9 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

Classic want your cake and eat it too. God forbid you sacrifice to improve it. Of course we want to improve it but don't act like you are on a higher moral ground 

Dude, just because some advocate for green energy doesn’t mean they will drive solar powered cars and grow all their food in their organic gardens. We’re all part of a larger society. Societal changes need public support. Public support impacts public policy. Governments lead the charge when costs are prohibitive for private industry. Eventually private industry joins the market with ideas once costs make the alternative forms of energy feasible. 
 

Until that energy revolution, even green energy proponents will drive gas powered cars and go to Market Basket. And yes, communicate with the outside world with smart phones. Conference calls with cups and string would be the real logistical nightmare!

[Ginx snewx]

Just now, Bostonseminole said:

u pick up your dogs poop in your yard?

Of course??

[Ginx snewx]

Just now, NorEastermass128 said:

Dude, just because some advocate for green energy doesn’t mean they will drive solar powered cars and grow all their food in their organic gardens. We’re all part of a larger society. Societal changes need public support. Public support impacts public policy. Governments lead the charge when costs are prohibitive for private industry. Eventually private industry joins the market with ideas once costs make the alternative forms of energy feasible. 
 

Until that energy revelation, even green energy proponents will drive gas powered cars and go to Market Basket. And yes, communicate with the outside world with smart phones. Conference calls with cups and string would be the real logistical nightmare!

 

Toxic Leaching

The Natural Resources Defense Council observes that lead, mercury and cadmium found in personal electronic devices such as mobile phones can “release dangerous toxins into our air and water when burned or deposited in landfills improperly.” In these situations, there can be significant environmental impacts. For example, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency reports that ecosystems near point sources of lead often demonstrate biodiversity loss, decreased growth and reproductive rates, and neurological effects in vertebrates.

[OceanStWx]

1 minute ago, NorEastermass128 said:

Dude, just because some advocate for green energy doesn’t mean they will drive solar powered cars and grow all their food in their organic gardens. We’re all part of a larger society. Societal changes need public support. Public support impacts public policy. Governments lead the charge when costs are prohibitive for private industry. Eventually private industry joins the market with ideas once costs make the alternative forms of energy feasible. 
 

Until that energy revolution, even green energy proponents will drive gas powered cars and go to Market Basket. And yes, communicate with the outside world with smart phones. Conference calls with cups and string would be the real logistical nightmare!

Nah, he's a moderate because he uses carrier pigeons to send emails.

[ORH_wxman]

Bring back the pony express?

[Ginx snewx]

Just now, OceanStWx said:

Nah, he's a moderate because he uses carrier pigeons to send emails.

I ain't the one worrying 

[CoastalWx]

The funny thing is that one could argue smart phones and devices are having an effect on reducing things like emissions. Many meetings can be perfectly held remotely. No longer need to be physically there. I can sit there in my footy PJs...maybe even nothing at all. 

[NorEastermass128]

Just now, Ginx snewx said:

 

Toxic Leaching

The Natural Resources Defense Council observes that lead, mercury and cadmium found in personal electronic devices such as mobile phones can “release dangerous toxins into our air and water when burned or deposited in landfills improperly.” In these situations, there can be significant environmental impacts. For example, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency reports that ecosystems near point sources of lead often demonstrate biodiversity loss, decreased growth and reproductive rates, and neurological effects in vertebrates.

So...you’re saying we should make it easier to recycle old smart phones?  Or we should research alternative ways of producing phones because of their ill effects on the environment?  
 

Hmm...substitute smart phone with fossil fuels in the above statement and you agree we need to get off petroleum. 
 

And for coldmiser...obviously we’d need to ween ourselves off petroleum. We’re addicted. It will come though. Those in the fossil fuel industry will figure out how to make money with green energy. I’m confident in that. 

[OceanStWx]

Just now, Ginx snewx said:

I ain't the one worrying 

My point exactly here. You are allowed your opinion on environment because you don't care about owning a phone, but I can't have an opinion because I do.

If you want to go down with the "climate change is natural" ship, by all means brother. 

[NorEastermass128]

2 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

Bring back the pony express?

Too much methane?

[Ginx snewx]

Just now, ORH_wxman said:

Bring back the pony express?

Average person discards a cell phone every 18 months. Theres a consumption problem with technology.  Those worried about carbon should do their part to change policy but also should lead by example.  I love the Al Gores of the world who preach carbon reduction while living in a home that uses more carbon than 10 of our houses.

[Bostonseminole]

1 minute ago, Ginx snewx said:

Of course??

I guess it depends on the dog size, I have a small dog, I do it weekly.

[OceanStWx]

1 minute ago, CoastalWx said:

The funny thing is that one could argue smart phones and devices are having an effect on reducing things like emissions. Many meetings can be perfectly held remotely. No longer need to be physically there. I can sit there in my footy PJs...maybe even nothing at all. 

A little surprised you even have bottoms on.

[NorEastermass128]

2 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

The funny thing is that one could argue smart phones and devices are having an effect on reducing things like emissions. Many meetings can be perfectly held remotely. No longer need to be physically there. I can sit there in my footy PJs...maybe even nothing at all. 

Exactly. I work from home 4 days a week. That’s a big reduction in my carbon footprint. I’ve had many a conference calls in footy pajamas. 

[Ginx snewx]

2 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

The funny thing is that one could argue smart phones and devices are having an effect on reducing things like emissions. Many meetings can be perfectly held remotely. No longer need to be physically there. I can sit there in my footy PJs...maybe even nothing at all. 

Yes but as I said no free lunch. It's so easy to say what the fix is without worrying about are the ramifications.  

[NorEastermass128]

1 minute ago, Ginx snewx said:

Average person discards a cell phone every 18 months. Theres a consumption problem with technology.  Those worried about carbon should do their part to change policy but also should lead by example.  I love the Al Gores of the world who preach carbon reduction while living in a home that uses more carbon than 10 of our houses.

Politicians that exhibit hypocritical behavior?  Oh the humanity!  

[Ginx snewx]

1 minute ago, Bostonseminole said:

I guess it depends on the dog size, I have a small dog, I do it weekly.

8 dogs, 3 big,5 small and always a foster or 2 in a 1.5 acre fenced in yard. We are very diligent about it. They tend to do their business in the back. I have a scoop and bag system and then its trashed. 

[OceanStWx]

Just now, Ginx snewx said:

Average person discards a cell phone every 18 months. Theres a consumption problem with technology.  Those worried about carbon should do their part to change policy but also should lead by example.  I love the Al Gores of the world who preach carbon reduction while living in a home that uses more carbon than 10 of our houses.

Then I lead by example. I've had this phone for at least 5 years. 

[CoastalWx]

3 minutes ago, OceanStWx said:

A little surprised you even have bottoms on.

I had to add the last sentence. 

[Ginx snewx]

1 minute ago, NorEastermass128 said:

Politicians that exhibit hypocritical behavior?  Oh the humanity!  

Entertainers, politicians, the ultra rich. All want you to sacrifice while they live the high life

[Ginx snewx]

Just now, OceanStWx said:

Then I lead by example. I've had this phone for at least 5 years. 

Good job

[CoastalWx]

Just now, OceanStWx said:

Then I lead by example. I've had this phone for at least 5 years. 

Yeah same here. I usually keep it until I really need one. 

[ORH_wxman]

Most politicians are egotistical frauds. But that doesn’t mean some don’t push the right solutions for some things...

It doesn’t have to be good intentions that produces the best path forward. You know the old saying anyways, “the path to hell is paved with good intentions”.  

[NorEastermass128]

Just now, CoastalWx said:

Yeah same here. I usually keep it until I really need one. 

My old phone is still going strong. Got it in 2014.   They don’t make them like they used to. 

[NorEastermass128]

Just now, ORH_wxman said:

Most politicians are egotistical frauds. But that doesn’t mean some don’t push the right solutions for some things...

It doesn’t have to be good intentions that produces the best path forward. You know the old saying anyways, “the path to hell is paved with good intentions”.  

Amen. 

[CoastalWx]

And trust me, almost every day I look around and wonder what we can do better as I sit in traffic. I hope to God we can find a better solution to traffic which ties into all of the above. 

[Ginx snewx]

Just now, CoastalWx said:

And trust me, almost every day I look around and wonder what we can do better as I sit in traffic. I hope to God we can find a better solution to traffic which ties into all of the above. 

Sorry man that must suck

[Kitzbuhel Craver]

Sneaky little torch in the sun today. Angle is getting there, damn she’s a temptress...