TugHillMatt Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 2 hours ago, WesterlyWx said: This winter really does seem like everything that pops up just keeps disappearing as it gets closer however we are still somehow above average on the season (mostly due to the mid November storm that dumped almost a foot). I’m just shy of 30” on the season but it doesn’t feel like it because every time we get snow it melts or gets washed away within a couple days. I feel like that’s been the theme of the 2010s winters (except for 13/14 & 14/15) is for lots of warm ups and frequent meltdowns with very little long sustained cold. Maybe it’s just my memory but it sure doesn’t seem winters are the way they used to be. 1 hour ago, wolfie09 said: Shows you how bad last December was , I've already surpassed those totals..But in a way it's just like last December with all these cutters destroying our snow pack.. Totally agree with both on this. You guys already know it's been my mantra, so I won't say anything else. As far as this week, what looked like could have been a very snowy week is fading away... We need to sloooooow everything down. Everything is zipping through. My doctor this week was even saying that all these ups and downs are really hard on the body. She's seen many people come in who have been affected by all the rapid ups and downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY_WX Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 When winters were winters! The aftermath of the Blizzard of ‘66 when Oswego got 101 inches of snow along with winds of 60 mph. I’m old enough to remember this storm although I lived in the Mohawk Valley then. It might be my first big weather memory, we didn’t have school for a week. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthBuffaloSteve Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Pretty intense squall rolling through Niagara County right now. Cams are full whiteout when this passed through.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthBuffaloSteve Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 When winters were winters! The aftermath of the Blizzard of ‘66 when Oswego got 101 inches of snow along with winds of 60 mph. I’m old enough to remember this storm although I lived in the Mohawk Valley then. It might be my first big weather memory, we didn’t have school for a week.I know we can see some neat pictures of our big storms these days but they just never seem to compare to pictures of the old days like that one. I ran across this one the other day. From March 1947 in the Buffalo south towns. I mean that’s nuts. What’s more nuts is the storm(s) that produced that weren’t even important enough to make it into the Buffalo Blizzard Book.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY-LES FREAK Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 We now have some wicked CAA underway, finally and the lakes are naturally gonna fire up but moisture is limited and the incoming HP is gonna squash it all to bits. No diurnal influences because the Sun is pretty much a non factor and we still cant get a Loke Ontario Death Band to fire up, Sad really sad!Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 This band means business, too bad winds are already shifting.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY-LES FREAK Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Extremely windy that's for damn sure!Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 If the rgem is correct a new band will form over or near Matt, albeit in some what of a weakened State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 This is the week Syracuse starts their comeback..(includes 2 systems) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthBuffaloSteve Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Should be a good snow game in KC today!https://fbwat.ch/1dt36raJD5Lzz4KF. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY-LES FREAK Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Totally agree! Seems those of us that were younger remember the 90s and early 2000s being great winters. Seemed every year we started building up snow around Thanksgiving, held it through Christmas, had the yearly “January Thaw” before another few weeks of winter. Now it’s nickel and dime snow that melts a day or two later and we don’t really get into a prolonged winter pattern until we hit January. Who knows maybe it is global warming... . It's the weather and these Winters are anomalous to CNY but they happen, and fortunately not often! That system yesterday was about as anomalous as one can get, lol, the system was over the Poconos at 988MB and we were experiencing rain, heavy rain, KBUF went over to snow early and it didn't accumulate at all but a few sloppy inches except in the hills I saw some 6-8"ers so.good for them. Hopefully after the holidays it changes cause I won't even go into the week of Christmas, lol!Very heavy snow coming through and it's practically a perfect WNW flow but that'll change cause it's not allowed to snow over me, or so it seems, lol!Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY-LES FREAK Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 If the rgem is correct a new band will form over or near Matt, albeit in some what of a weakened State. Yeah, it's doing so right now but 10 miles to his North, RLMAO, and bbn itll meander North for sure, lol!Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY-LES FREAK Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 It's not snow, its graupel, lol!Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY-LES FREAK Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Still too warm, lol, to stop the constant dripping cause houses in CNY dont use the cause of the ice, but I think that needs to change. When I first moved here 15 yrs ago, it was awesome, snowpack from late Nov, usually AFTER Thanksgiving and it would last until mid Jan- Thaw- then start the rebuild process but those days are long gone. They'll be back, but who knows when as it could take 20-30yrs, but who really knows. Yesterday strom should never of been allowed to happen, RLMAOSent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrmax Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 19 minutes ago, wolfie09 said: This is the week Syracuse starts their comeback..(includes 2 systems) I didn't realize the GFS goes out a full 365 days now. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrmax Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, CNY-LES FREAK said: Still too warm, lol, to stop the constant dripping cause houses in CNY dont use the cause of the ice, but I think that needs to change. When I first moved here 15 yrs ago, it was awesome, snowpack from late Nov, usually AFTER Thanksgiving and it would last until mid Jan- Thaw- then start the rebuild process but those days are long gone. They'll be back, but who knows when as it could take 20-30yrs, but who really knows. Yesterday strom should never of been allowed to happen, RLMAO Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk We've had a few winters like that in my 15 years here but on balance a lot of up and down for "snowpack." My experience prior to moving here was further Southeast, and South, where that's the norm in almost any winter. So I don't have a good lifetime frame of reference in one location to come to any conclusions, other than make a limited observation. Would be interesting to see if anyone with access to the requisite data (if it exists), has done any long term study of winter snow depths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 I would expect the 12z euro to move north at least somewhat , you would think.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaT13 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 hour ago, SouthBuffaloSteve said: Should be a good snow game in KC today! https://fbwat.ch/1dt36raJD5Lzz4KF . You're not kidding, very heavy banded snow moving through. Might rival the buffalo snow game at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted December 15, 2019 Author Share Posted December 15, 2019 Can’t complain here 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted December 15, 2019 Author Share Posted December 15, 2019 The analogs nailed this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochesterdave Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Just now, BuffaloWeather said: The analogs nailed this one BUF did a really good job. As did the GFS Operational (the members were mostly too cold). NAM was too cold. You’re 100%, analogs were on the money! ICON was ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochesterdave Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Euro still south. I wouldn’t doubt it. Shucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulyFromPlattsburgh Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 2 hours ago, wolfie09 said: This is the week Syracuse starts their comeback..(includes 2 systems) I unfortunately live where that snow hole is with 0 inches in northern New York Lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochesterdave Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Post storm (Monday/Tuesday), the winds look to be N/NW. Could be interesting for south shore. XMas Eve time frame still bears watching. East coast storm a possibility. I’m reaching guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulyFromPlattsburgh Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, rochesterdave said: Post storm (Monday/Tuesday), the winds look to be N/NW. Could be interesting for south shore. XMas Eve time frame still bears watching. East coast storm a possibility. I’m reaching guys! Euro and GFS take it into Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthBuffaloSteve Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Can’t complain here Look at that your 5 minutes off the plane and here we go. BUF issues a HWO for lake effect potential mid week. Not much but something! Hazardous Weather OutlookNational Weather Service Buffalo NYNorthern Erie-Genesee-1245 PM EST Sun Dec 15 2019.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...Monday through Saturday.Lake effect snow may develop late Tuesday night through Wednesdayeast of Lake Erie. The snow may briefly impact the area from Buffaloto Batavia before moving south into the Southern Tier. Moderateaccumulations are possible if the band remains across the area longenough.GFS was is throwing a pretty intense band on a WSW flow... winds won’t hold long but maybe a couple hour window.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNash Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 35 minutes ago, PaulyFromPlattsburgh said: I unfortunately live where that snow hole is with 0 inches in northern New York Lol! Rough! How do you guys come out during that storm a few weeks ago that put 12”+ down in VT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Looks like Pulaski had all or mostly rain last night, almost nothing but grass.. It's funny riding down rt13 and going from several inches to nothing in a matter of a house or two lol Secretly one of the biggest rip off areas.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulyFromPlattsburgh Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 24 minutes ago, WNash said: Rough! How do you guys come out during that storm a few weeks ago that put 12”+ down in VT? Not good. We have not had significant snow since the early November storm. It’s a weird location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Similar type HWO east of Ontario Lake effect snow may develop east of Lake Ontario Wednesday and Wednesday night. Moderate accumulations are possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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