TugHillMatt Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Quote On both sides of the specific Christmas morning...it was mild. I remember coming back to Redfield between Christmas and New Year's to rain, mud, and grass showing. Break out the horseshoes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaT13 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 21 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said: 2010s...the decade for Christmas barbecues, Christmas shorts, and Christmas yard games... Out of the last 9 years, Roc only had 3 years without snow on the ground on Christmas Day. Not too shabby and not nearly as bad as our memory wants to think it was.... Roc had 2" on the ground in 2018 Roc had 6" on the ground in 2017 Roc had 3" on the ground in 2016 Roc had no snow on the ground in 2015 Roc had no snow on the ground in 2014 Roc had 2" on the ground 2013 Roc had 2" on the ground 2012 Roc had no snow on the ground in 2011 Roc had 4" on the ground in 2010 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, TugHillMatt said: On both sides of the specific Christmas morning...it was mild. I remember coming back to Redfield between Christmas and New Year's to rain, mud, and grass showing. Break out the horseshoes! Must be a Redfield thing lol I have pictures from the next couple days as well and it looked no different. Actually I have pics of snow around Christmas all 4 winters I've been here.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 People get so worked up over anomalies like we live in NYC or something. My avg high is like 28/29 , we can afford a little warmth lol NYC gets 27" a year with a split of 39/26 lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Now I'm not saying December hasn't sucked because they have lol Last year 40" in November, 20" in December.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, DeltaT13 said: Out of the last 9 years, Roc only had 3 years without snow on the ground on Christmas Day. Not too shabby and not nearly as bad as our memory wants to think it was.... Roc had 2" on the ground in 2018 Roc had 6" on the ground in 2017 Roc had 3" on the ground in 2016 Roc had no snow on the ground in 2015 Roc had no snow on the ground in 2014 Roc had 2" on the ground 2013 Roc had 2" on the ground 2012 Roc had no snow on the ground in 2011 Roc had 4" on the ground in 2010 Interesting! Thanks for the stats. I have spent most of this decade in either Michigan or Pennsylvania during Christmas...and my memories of Christmas scenery are dull, barren landscapes. I have a jet stream of my own that forces snowstorms away... lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 34 minutes ago, wolfie09 said: Not to be an ass here but this was last year Xmas morning.. We had a white thanksgiving and christmas last year here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Could be a couple/few inches for southern areas before the band lifts north ahead of the clipper..If the rgem is to be believed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 This is the system the euro was advertising just behind the mid month cutter..Has some potential, at least on the front end. As it stands now.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 If that shortwave stalls out over superior there is still some good potential for Weds. I've seen it many times before. That low pressure off the coast coming further inland may slow it down. You can see it on the high res models. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY-LES FREAK Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Most might as well say goodbye to all this snow that's been building mainly because of its consistency. It may be able to hold most of what falls but wind and high Dp's, that's called a snow eater, and I don't think we see that but there is the possibility that most of us will see grass by tomorrow evening. Does anyone realise that the Tug hasn't seen one, NOT ONE, intense single band yet this fall and that's absolutely F'in NUTS and almost scary to a point!Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY-LES FREAK Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 This weeks possibility has all but disappeared so we wait, as does Carol, lol!Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 Last few frames have that heading NE instead of SE. Would give more residence time for the band. Not a terrible look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinksnow18 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Huh. Could be a Northtowns special. I remember that scenario a few times but one that sticks out the most was 2008 we picked up about 10" in Cheektowaga as the band was "swinging "through. Lake effect...you never know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinksnow18 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 BW this one's for you...i watched 4 and 7 today for our local "mets" word on the lake effect. Both channels never have the Wednesday band further north than 20A. I laughed at the girl on 4 because she at least realized how asinine this was and still as I the lake snow would reach the metro and drop 2 to 5...the girl on 7? Clueless as they come saying nothing for the metro and 1 to 3 as far north as 20A...i want don Paul back... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, Thinksnow18 said: BW this one's for you...i watched 4 and 7 today for our local "mets" word on the lake effect. Both channels never have the Wednesday band further north than 20A. I laughed at the girl on 4 because she at least realized how asinine this was and still as I the lake snow would reach the metro and drop 2 to 5...the girl on 7? Clueless as they come saying nothing for the metro and 1 to 3 as far north as 20A...i want don Paul back... They're useless, get better info on here. Honestly I haven't watched any weather segment in months. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrmax Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 5 hours ago, rochesterdave said: With this start to winter, that wouldn’t be surprising. I hope that isn’t the case. I really love a white Christmas. We were saved by a literal last minute localized LES or hybrid thing IMBY last Xmas eve. Was several inches as I recall. At least we have more of a chance of that sort of white Xmas pop-up salvation than most areas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochesterdave Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 51 minutes ago, Syrmax said: We were saved by a literal last minute localized LES or hybrid thing IMBY last Xmas eve. Was several inches as I recall. At least we have more of a chance of that sort of white Xmas pop-up salvation than most areas... Yeah. I can recall a couple last minute saves. One was a tiny clipper that came down from Georgian Bay. The other was an extra long tail coming from some Buffalo LE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wolfie09 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Rgem looks solid.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Had to go a funeral in PA today. Just got back. Solid snow cover from just north of Binghamton and up. Downtown Syracuse is looking pretty sparse snow-wise. Once I got up here in the northern parts of the northern suburbs, it was 5 degrees colder than downtown with about a (5 inch?) snow/ice pack remaining. I think that sleet from last weekend is helping to preserve some of our pack. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNash Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 11 hours ago, wolfie09 said: People get so worked up over anomalies like we live in NYC or something. My avg high is like 28/29 , we can afford a little warmth lol NYC gets 27" a year with a split of 39/26 lol I lived in NYC for several years. The number of 50 degree rainers they get in winter would send us to the nuthouse. A top 10% season for them is a bottom 10% season for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, WNash said: I lived in NYC for several years. The number of 50 degree rainers they get in winter would send us to the nuthouse. A top 10% season for them is a bottom 10% season for us. Our average high is 38/26 right now. We actually only average 32 or below for a high temp in KBUF from Jan 3rd to Feb 8th. That's why its tough to sustain a good snow pack here. I do agree with you, our winters make almost everyones winters look bad, especially for bigger cities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 The mid month cutter pretty much acts as a 50/50 with HP coming down and fresh cold air..This is our next synoptic threat, I think.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BuffaloWeather Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 The one index going for us and its a pretty important one for the eastern lakes. After that threat it warms up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 So tomorrow looks to start out wnw of some sort before the band breaks apart and re-forms on a SW flow ahead of the clipper.. Wednesday is more up in the air as some models (rgem, Ggem, icon etc) are now keeping this more Westerly-wsw out ahead of another northern stream disturbance.. Previous runs had a NW flow developing. I love the unpredictability of lake effect lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, wolfie09 said: So tomorrow looks to start out wnw of some sort before the band breaks apart and re-forms on a SW flow ahead of the clipper.. Wednesday is more up in the air as some models (rgem, Ggem, icon etc) are now keeping this more Westerly-wsw out ahead of another northern stream disturbance.. Previous runs had a NW flow developing. I love the unpredictability of lake effect lol Yeah I don't know what to think about this event lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Ggem cuts into the lakes but I don't hate the look. I need a storm to follow lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinksnow18 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Lake snow over Michigan looks super impressive. Looks like the totals have been bumped up to almost 5 inches on WIVB in-house model for tomorrow...grain of salt I know. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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