WINTER 2019/2020 BANTER

[bluewave]

Storm Gloria generates the biggest wave ever recorded in the Mediterranean

https://www.surfertoday.com/environment/storm-gloria-generates-the-biggest-wave-ever-recorded-in-the-mediterranean

 

 

 

[gravitylover]

Hey all, yeah I know don't ask for imby predictions but... I need to drive down to FL on Thursday/Friday and this storm coming up looks like it might make that difficult. How far inland will it be mostly rain, IOW will I95 or I81 be wet or white? My road trip car isn't the greatest winter storm car but will be fine if it's just wet. WWAWWD? (What would a weather weenie do) is the storm going to be a dud, am I overthinking this, don't worry about it dude just keep those margaritas in focus and all will be well...?

[uncle W]

41 minutes ago, gravitylover said:

Hey all, yeah I know don't ask for imby predictions but... I need to drive down to FL on Thursday/Friday and this storm coming up looks like it might make that difficult. How far inland will it be mostly rain, IOW will I95 or I81 be wet or white? My road trip car isn't the greatest winter storm car but will be fine if it's just wet. WWAWWD? (What would a weather weenie do) is the storm going to be a dud, am I overthinking this, don't worry about it dude just keep those margaritas in focus and all will be well...?

don't take I81 unless you want to drive behind a line of trucks...its also colder than I95 ...I like to avoid the DC area...its roads are as crowded as ours...

[gravitylover]

43 minutes ago, uncle W said:

don't take I81 unless you want to drive behind a line of trucks...its also colder than I95 ...I like to avoid the DC area...its roads are as crowded as ours...

Avoiding DC was my thinking too that's why 81. I guess to avoid the cities that's the way the trucks go. Bummer.

Yeah it's obviously colder but that's really the question, is it too cold and is that where the wintry weather will be happening if it's going to happen with this. I was figuring on leaving myself nearly a full extra day (need to be there Sat morning) by leaving here early Thursday. Should I leave before that?

[weatherpruf]

4 minutes ago, gravitylover said:

Avoiding DC was my thinking too that's why 81. I guess to avoid the cities that's the way the trucks go. Bummer.

Yeah it's obviously colder but that's really the question, is it too cold and is that where the wintry weather will be happening if it's going to happen with this. I was figuring on leaving myself nearly a full extra day (need to be there Sat morning) by leaving here early Thursday. Should I leave before that?

81 is desolate for long stretches; it's a nice ride in summer with daylight. For night driving I'd stick to 95 because you are always near civilization if something goes down. That said there have been numerous times when we have found ourselves wasting hours driving around DC due to a wrong turn, with or without GPS. It gets me mad every single time and, well, I don't travel anymore. I'm travel adverse. Nothing I wish to see anywhere. 

[LibertyBell]

On 1/20/2020 at 10:26 AM, CPcantmeasuresnow said:

The highest storm total I saw was 36 inches and it was only one place, The airport at St. Johns was a little shy of 31 inches. Maybe some are confusing the cm totals with inches.

How many coastal/sea level locations have gotten 30"+ from a single event?  The only official locations I can think of are Cape May 34" in Feb 1899, PHL in Jan 1996 and JFK in Jan 2016!

I think Cape Cod got 30"+ in Jan 2005, but I dont know if that was an official measuring location (meaning airport or park lol.)

Come to think of it, the Brookhaven NWS office may have gotten 30" in Feb 2013......

 

[LibertyBell]

On 1/20/2020 at 9:05 AM, bluewave said:

Historic event for that part of Canada.

https://weather.gc.ca/warnings/weathersummaries_e.html#NL

Weather summary
for Newfoundland
issued by Environment Canada
at 3:00 p.m. NST Sunday 19 January 2020.

Discussion.

A powerful January storm brought intense winds and record-breaking 
snowfall to parts of Newfoundland on Friday into Friday night. 

A new all-time daily snowfall record was established at St. John's 
International Airport. 

New record: 76.2 cm (January 17, 2020). 
Previous daily record: 68.4 cm (April 5, 1999). 
Records began in 1942. 

The above total is applicable for the January 17 climatological day, 
which is a 24 hour period ending at 2:30 A.M. NST on January 18. An 
additional 2.0 cm was recorded after 2:30 A.M. 

The area of low pressure responsible for the snow and wind emerged 
from the northeastern United States early Thursday and began to 
rapidly intensify as it moved over the Gulf of Maine. The system 
deepened into a powerful storm as it tracked southeast of the Avalon 
Peninsula on Friday, before departing into the North Atlantic early 
Saturday. 

The storm battered the eastern half of the island with heavy 
snowfall, extremely high winds and damaging coastal storm surge. 

The following is a summary of information received by Environment 
and Climate Change Canada as of 2:30 P.M. NST Sunday. 

Total snowfall (in centimetres): 

Mount Pearl: 93 
Paradise: 91 
St. John's East: 82 
St. John's International Airport: 78 
Mount Carmel: 61 
Lethbridge: 48 
Gander International Airport: 35 
Gander West: 35 
St. Lawrence: 31 
Grand Falls-Windsor: 10 

Maximum wind gusts (in kilometres per hour): 

Green Island, Fortune Bay: 171 
Bonavista: 164 
Grates Cove: 156 
Heart's Delight-Islington: 156 
Cape Pine: 146 
Green Island, Trinity Bay: 145 
Twillingate: 140 
St. John's - Doheney Place: 134 
St. John's - East White Hills: 132 
St-Pierre: 130 
St. John's - Dockyard: 129 
Pass Island: 126 
Allan's Island: 116 
Holyrood: 114 
Bishop's Cove: 113 
Ramea: 109 
St. Lawrence: 106 
Burgeo: 105 
St. John's West: 105 
Deer Park: 101 
North Harbour: 101 
Gander: 97 

At St. John's International Airport the official wind sensor 
malfunctioned during the storm. Reported winds were estimated to be 
between 65 and 85 knots (120 to 157 km/h). However, it will likely 
not be possible to provide a verified maximum gust. 

The wind sensor at Gander International Airport also briefly 
malfunctioned. The highest gust at the nearby Gander climate station 
was measured as reaching 97 km/h. 

The following area set a daily minimum temperature record on January 
18, 2020: 

Winterland Area (Winterland Branch Hill) 
New record of -17.9 
Old record of -17.8 set in 2001 
Records in this area have been kept since 1970 

Note: the temperature record reported here has been derived from a 
selection of historical stations in this geographic area that were 
active during the period of record.

Please note that this summary may contain preliminary or unofficial 
information and does not constitute a complete or final report.

End/NLWO

Wow that was their Feb 1978!  Is it common for that area to get clobbered when we have a mild winter down here?  Why are these storms much more common up there than they are at our latitude, Chris?

Also, see my post about 30"+ events at coastal locations at sea level.

 

[gravitylover]

1 hour ago, LibertyBell said:

Wow that was their Feb 1978!  Is it common for that area to get clobbered when we have a mild winter down here?  Why are these storms much more common up there than they are at our latitude, Chris?

Also, see my post about 30"+ events at coastal locations at sea level.

 

That much closer to the cold air source.

[LibertyBell]

29 minutes ago, gravitylover said:

That much closer to the cold air source.

Oh I was wondering because so many talk about the gulf stream and how it fuels our storms and yet it passes 150 miles SE of Montauk so if it was just that then the storms should get weaker farther north.

 

[gravitylover]

4 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Oh I was wondering because so many talk about the gulf stream and how it fuels our storms and yet it passes 150 miles SE of Montauk so if it was just that then the storms should get weaker farther north.

 

Sorta. The disparity between warm and cold air is greater so storms continue to hold their strength long enough to unload before finally moving out. At least that's the way my simple brain sees it.

[Cfa]

On 1/20/2020 at 9:05 AM, bluewave said:

Historic event for that part of Canada.

https://weather.gc.ca/warnings/weathersummaries_e.html#NL

Weather summary
for Newfoundland
issued by Environment Canada
at 3:00 p.m. NST Sunday 19 January 2020.

Discussion.

A powerful January storm brought intense winds and record-breaking 
snowfall to parts of Newfoundland on Friday into Friday night. 

A new all-time daily snowfall record was established at St. John's 
International Airport. 

New record: 76.2 cm (January 17, 2020). 
Previous daily record: 68.4 cm (April 5, 1999). 
Records began in 1942. 

The above total is applicable for the January 17 climatological day, 
which is a 24 hour period ending at 2:30 A.M. NST on January 18. An 
additional 2.0 cm was recorded after 2:30 A.M. 

The area of low pressure responsible for the snow and wind emerged 
from the northeastern United States early Thursday and began to 
rapidly intensify as it moved over the Gulf of Maine. The system 
deepened into a powerful storm as it tracked southeast of the Avalon 
Peninsula on Friday, before departing into the North Atlantic early 
Saturday. 

The storm battered the eastern half of the island with heavy 
snowfall, extremely high winds and damaging coastal storm surge. 

The following is a summary of information received by Environment 
and Climate Change Canada as of 2:30 P.M. NST Sunday. 

Total snowfall (in centimetres): 

Mount Pearl: 93 
Paradise: 91 
St. John's East: 82 
St. John's International Airport: 78 
Mount Carmel: 61 
Lethbridge: 48 
Gander International Airport: 35 
Gander West: 35 
St. Lawrence: 31 
Grand Falls-Windsor: 10 

Maximum wind gusts (in kilometres per hour): 

Green Island, Fortune Bay: 171 
Bonavista: 164 
Grates Cove: 156 
Heart's Delight-Islington: 156 
Cape Pine: 146 
Green Island, Trinity Bay: 145 
Twillingate: 140 
St. John's - Doheney Place: 134 
St. John's - East White Hills: 132 
St-Pierre: 130 
St. John's - Dockyard: 129 
Pass Island: 126 
Allan's Island: 116 
Holyrood: 114 
Bishop's Cove: 113 
Ramea: 109 
St. Lawrence: 106 
Burgeo: 105 
St. John's West: 105 
Deer Park: 101 
North Harbour: 101 
Gander: 97 

At St. John's International Airport the official wind sensor 
malfunctioned during the storm. Reported winds were estimated to be 
between 65 and 85 knots (120 to 157 km/h). However, it will likely 
not be possible to provide a verified maximum gust. 

The wind sensor at Gander International Airport also briefly 
malfunctioned. The highest gust at the nearby Gander climate station 
was measured as reaching 97 km/h. 

The following area set a daily minimum temperature record on January 
18, 2020: 

Winterland Area (Winterland Branch Hill) 
New record of -17.9 
Old record of -17.8 set in 2001 
Records in this area have been kept since 1970 

Note: the temperature record reported here has been derived from a 
selection of historical stations in this geographic area that were 
active during the period of record.

Please note that this summary may contain preliminary or unofficial 
information and does not constitute a complete or final report.

End/NLWO

I would’ve expected snow totals to be far greater just based on how it looked up there, those were some serious drifts.

Also beginning to wish we’d switch over to the metric system (while retaining °F), I’m tired of having to make conversions between imperial and metric.

[uncle W]

12 hours ago, gravitylover said:

Avoiding DC was my thinking too that's why 81. I guess to avoid the cities that's the way the trucks go. Bummer.

Yeah it's obviously colder but that's really the question, is it too cold and is that where the wintry weather will be happening if it's going to happen with this. I was figuring on leaving myself nearly a full extra day (need to be there Sat morning) by leaving here early Thursday. Should I leave before that?

I did the bridge tunnel route thru Delaware into Virginia...also route 301...both a little slower but more scenic...I95 in Virginia just past Dc is always slow and sometimes at a standstill...pick your poison...

 

[NYCweatherNOW]

Can’t believe this

[Juliancolton]

I have the worst cold or maybe flu in years, and it's absolutely miserable. Definitely scrub your hands to the bone for the foreseeable future.

[NYCweatherNOW]

1 hour ago, Juliancolton said:

I have the worst cold or maybe flu in years, and it's absolutely miserable. Definitely scrub your hands to the bone for the foreseeable future.

Feel better Julian 

[NYCSNOWMAN2020]

Overnight trends look bleak ...but ..Plenty of time for changes..Lets see where we stand by Thur 12z suite..until then i will be taking everything with a grain of salt..

[Allsnow]

The ukmet is now on pivotal weather with all the maps. 

[NYCweatherNOW]

When am I going to get the red tag?

[BxEngine]

9 minutes ago, NYCweatherNOW said:

When am I going to get the red tag?

The banned one? Shortly. Stop the argumentative bs. 

[North and West]

Kidding aside, is winter over here? I just checked in here for the first time in a few weeks.

I’m hoping that it doesn’t pop in for a visit in four weeks and leave our baseball fields a muddy mess into April.


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[Nibor]

4 hours ago, North and West said:

Kidding aside, is winter over here? I just checked in here for the first time in a few weeks.

I’m hoping that it doesn’t pop in for a visit in four weeks and leave our baseball fields a muddy mess into April.


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Based around the melodrama on here from the past couple of weeks I'd say the consensus would be that winter never existed in the first place.

Maybe the real treasure of winter was the friends we made along the way.

[North and West]

11 hours ago, Nibor said:

Based around the melodrama on here from the past couple of weeks I'd say the consensus would be that winter never existed in the first place.

Maybe the real treasure of winter was the friends we made along the way.

I'll consider that a win.

[rclab]

11 hours ago, Nibor said:

Based around the melodrama on here from the past couple of weeks I'd say the consensus would be that winter never existed in the first place.

Maybe the real treasure of winter was the friends we made along the way.

Your last sentence should be enshrined in gold and brought out whenever things become contentious on the forums in the cold season. As always ......

[LibertyBell]

On 1/26/2020 at 8:25 PM, Juliancolton said:

I have the worst cold or maybe flu in years, and it's absolutely miserable. Definitely scrub your hands to the bone for the foreseeable future.

I get those kinds of allergies like once a week lol.

It needs to be dry or snowy for me not to be on antihistamines.

We have weeds and daffodils around here.

 

 

[LibertyBell]

By the way, there was a 7.7 earthquake in the Caribbean felt from Miami to Cuba to Jamaica.... WOW!

 

[BxEngine]

If youre going to report posts...might be a good idea to make sure you arent doing the same thing you are reporting others for doing. Just a random thought. 

[the_other_guy]

2 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

By the way, there was a 7.7 earthquake in the Caribbean felt from Miami to Cuba to Jamaica.... WOW!

 

One of the pilots was doing a walk around in Grand Cayman and he said the ground was shaking like crazy

[NYCSNOWMAN2020]

On 1/27/2020 at 11:43 PM, Nibor said:

Based around the melodrama on here from the past couple of weeks I'd say the consensus would be that winter never existed in the first place.

Maybe the real treasure of winter was the friends we made along the way.

Winter is far from over imo.....DESPITE...Pathetic snow totals ..for NYC  under 6 in....by March 21 i truly believe total will be close to 25 ...what is my rationale for above  statement. ...no fancy maps  no ..teles..no long term data ..just my gut...we shall see but things have a funny way of changing  just when you think no chance of snow all ..it takes is one 12 to 15 inch snow event to shake things up ..time will tell..

[doncat]

We also have to break out of this dry pattern we've  gotten into this month...which looks to continue thru the first week of February.

[Rtd208]

Not only do I think the weekend storm threat is dead (still giving it until the 12z runs today) but the same goes for winter. We have been chasing fantasy storms and digital snow and I don't expect that to change. If there is any chance to see substantial snow it would probably come at the tail end of February or first two weeks of March like the last couple of years. Doubtful but we'll see.