CPcantmeasuresnow Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 On 2/16/2020 at 10:09 AM, weatherpruf said: You may be the only person in the tristate area who does.....I may like a good snowstorm, but digging out? that's not for me....was reading an article about "halfbacks" people who wanted to retire where there was no snow ( specifically ) and wound up in FL but the place is so hot for so many months they found that equally intolerable ( I can sympathize )so they go "halfway" back to their origin state ( usually the northeast or upper midwest ) to SC, NC, Ga, etc....four seasons with mild winters and very rare snow ( believe Atlanta might have more snow than us this year ). I gotta admit I'm not missing the snow much this year. It'll be back. Expand If you've had more than a trace of snow you've had more snow than the city of Atlanta has had this season. It was only their northern suburbs that had accumulations last week. I currently sit at 20.5 inches, 12 of it from the early December storm. A horrible winter especially with the mild temperatures added in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rclab Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 On 2/16/2020 at 10:04 AM, weatherpruf said: I'm way past it and looking at seed catalogs. I'd organize the tackle box but after 40 years, i don't wanna mess with tradition....saltwater fishing has gotten so bad I have rigs I'll never use again ( winter flounder, whiting, fluke ) due to the disappearance of the species or draconian regulations. A proposed 3 bluefish limit this year....a fish once so bountiful people didn't even want them. Expand Sad but so true. I remember the sheep's head which the bay was named for and party boating for whiting and Ling during the cold season. My father used to pull up good sized porgies, flounder and blue claw crab off the narrows, shore road sea wall between the 4th and 14th avenues. Times long gone. No need for restrictions. Heaven help you if you get caught today with a short sized fluke, even though you can find even smaller specimens at the local markets after the trawlers drop their ill gotten loads. ( the trawlers, that I feel are responsible, still have no size restrictions.) As always ..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 My friend Devin lives in Wasatch county in Utah which is the mountain range and he just broke 400 inches today. It has been snowing all winter over there. Amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncat Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 On 2/16/2020 at 6:31 PM, Stormlover74 said: We never had 4 or 5 in row like this year. Managed at least 15-20" most winters in the 80s. We came close to back to back under 10" winters from 96-98 Expand Been measuring snow since 1974...Have had three seasons with under 10" of snow...So far 6.8" this season. Last time with under 10" was 2011-12. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCweatherNOW Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 I see bxengine deleted my posts, the geese went south yesterday expect snow in two weeks (March 1st) maybe a few days before or after... if it doesn’t happen don’t ever listen to me again... fair enough? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 2:41 AM, NYCweatherNOW said: I see bxengine deleted my posts, the geese went south yesterday expect snow in two weeks (March 1st) maybe a few days before or after... if it doesn’t happen don’t ever listen to me again... fair enough? Expand Odd. I saw geese fly due east today. Hmmm. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/16/2020 at 4:40 AM, jm1220 said: What got me into weather was the Blizzard of 1996. I’m sure that and any other severe weather event collapsed before it got to the south shore where I grew up. Expand labor day 98 hit the whole island 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 3:19 AM, forkyfork said: labor day 98 hit the whole island Expand We're due for a good derecho 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 3:19 AM, forkyfork said: labor day 98 hit the whole island Expand I was having a bbq before this hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 3:19 AM, forkyfork said: labor day 98 hit the whole island Expand terrifying storm. I was buying bait at a waterfront tackle shop near the Arthur Kill. I believe it was a derecho? Rare for around here..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/16/2020 at 7:56 PM, rclab said: Sad but so true. I remember the sheep's head which the bay was named for and party boating for whiting and Ling during the cold season. My father used to pull up good sized porgies, flounder and blue claw crab off the narrows, shore road sea wall between the 4th and 14th avenues. Times long gone. No need for restrictions. Heaven help you if you get caught today with a short sized fluke, even though you can find even smaller specimens at the local markets after the trawlers drop their ill gotten loads. ( the trawlers, that I feel are responsible, still have no size restrictions.) As always ..... Expand trawlers actually do have restrictions these days, on mesh sizes as well as seasons and size limits. None of which helps much as the damage is done. went out in the late fall and could find nothing but horned dogfish from Rockaway point to the doughnut to the Shrewsbury Rocks. Thick. Can't keep them, as its a shark...I catch more fish in my local creek and bigger ones too, than you can catch in the bay these days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/16/2020 at 6:31 PM, Stormlover74 said: We never had 4 or 5 in row like this year. Managed at least 15-20" most winters in the 80s. We came close to back to back under 10" winters from 96-98 Expand 88, 89, 90, 91, 92......97,98, 99, 2000, that's 8 years of bum winters right there, even if 92 and 2000 had some late bonus stuff ( and 2000's big event was the 2000-01 winter ). You can throw in 80, 81, 84, 85, and 86, if you don't go in succession, and that's another 5 years of little snow. 13 years of not much to write home about. An incredible run. If I add in the 70's...you get the point. In fact, 93 and 95 had only one serious event each; without 94 and 96 the 90's are fairly putrid. Did not use a snowblower from 97-2000. It can and will happen again, and ultimately will be the default winter in these parts if scientists are correct. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCweatherNOW Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 3:05 AM, Rjay said: Odd. I saw geese fly due east today. Hmmm. Expand I think your mind thought they were flying East but in fact they weren’t even there you were hallucinating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncat Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Our winters are very variable of course when it comes to snow...The decades though do tend to still average not to far from normal. Decadal snowfall from the 70's thru now range from an avg. of 26.2" in the 80's to 31.6" in the 2000's. The exception of course is the 2010's which have averaged 39.5" , not including this year. These are my SI figures...your results may vary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 3:05 AM, Rjay said: Odd. I saw geese fly due east today. Hmmm. Expand I have geese that have been on the pond all winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 11:22 AM, doncat said: Our winters are very variable of course when it comes to snow...The decades though do tend to still average not to far from normal. Decadal snowfall from the 70's thru now range from an avg. of 26.2" in the 80's to 31.6" in the 2000's. The exception of course is the 2010's which have averaged 39.5" , not including this year. These are my SI figures...your results may vary. Expand The key is some of us measure and/or look up records while others use anecdotal evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Bloomberg.com reported that the U.K. will be making a significant investment to upgrade its weather and climate computer resources. https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2020-02-17/u-k-to-spend-1-6-billion-on-world-s-best-climate-supercomputer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Joe Bastardi using the March, 1960 analog for next month I heard lmfaooo!! No shame. What’s next? March, 1993? That guy really needs to retire, it’s just sad and pathetic now. He has zero credibility, no one takes him seriously. Talk about doing a crash and burn. His forecasts have been dumpster fires for several years now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 I am still waking up during the night to see the overnight models. I am hoping for a snowstorm. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasiluvsnow Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 2:19 PM, MJO812 said: I am still waking up during the night to see the overnight models. I am hoping for a snowstorm. Expand 812, I feel your pain and in theory its not over yet but IMO we will try and get em again next year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncat Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 12:55 PM, IrishRob17 said: The key is some of us measure and/or look up records while others use anecdotal evidence. Expand Definitely...many times I see something posted which I know isn't correct...That's when I dig out my records. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 2:19 PM, MJO812 said: I am still waking up during the night to see the overnight models. I am hoping for a snowstorm. Expand I look forward to your post on this again tomorrow 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rclab Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 2:19 PM, MJO812 said: I am still waking up during the night to see the overnight models. I am hoping for a snowstorm. Expand As I sit watching the mid winter sun shine through barred windows facing my beloved postage stamp yard, I wonder. The plants I brought in, late fall, are still bravely remaining green. The incongruity of the in pot orchid sitting next to the small, still blooming and perky white poinsettia, that refuses to believe that it’s time is over. Surrounded by dependent house cats, a legacy of my wife’s love I look longingly at the muted browns and concrete grey of the back. The sunlight growing stronger, I think of a line from a difficult read I have just finished: “There’s nothing left to surrender.” As always ...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastalplainsnowman Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Well done.This is almost too well written and poetic for the internet in 2020. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rclab Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 9:06 AM, weatherpruf said: trawlers actually do have restrictions these days, on mesh sizes as well as seasons and size limits. None of which helps much as the damage is done. went out in the late fall and could find nothing but horned dogfish from Rockaway point to the doughnut to the Shrewsbury Rocks. Thick. Can't keep them, as its a shark...I catch more fish in my local creek and bigger ones too, than you can catch in the bay these days. Expand I appreciate the updated info on the trawlers. I remember over 50 years ago renting a small boat and motor and going out on the bay and inlet. Youngsters fishing off the party boat piers, my friend actually got engaged on the walk bridge that crosses a portion of the bay. “Those were the days my friend, wed thought they’d never......” oh well, as always ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 4:00 PM, rclab said: As I sit watching the mid winter sun shine through barred windows facing my beloved postage stamp yard, I wonder. The plants I brought in, late fall, are still bravely remaining green. The incongruity of the in pot orchid sitting next to the small, still blooming and perky white poinsettia, that refuses to believe that it’s time is over. Surrounded by dependent house cats, a legacy of my wife’s love I look longingly at the muted browns and concrete grey of the back. The sunlight growing stronger, I think of a line from a difficult read I have just finished: “There’s nothing left to surrender.” As always ...... Expand So how long did you teach lit? Ten years for me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 4:39 PM, rclab said: I appreciate the updated info on the trawlers. I remember over 50 years ago renting a small boat and motor and going out on the bay and inlet. Youngsters fishing off the party boat piers, my friend actually got engaged on the walk bridge that crosses a portion of the bay. “Those were the days my friend, wed thought they’d never......” oh well, as always ....... Expand i used to throw a line with a flounder rig off the the dead end streets in Sea Bright in the early 80's, and catch enough flounder on the incoming tide to feed the family. I'd use earthworms....even if you could catch something today, you probably wouldn't be allowed to fish there... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rclab Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 6:01 PM, weatherpruf said: So how long did you teach lit? Ten years for me.... Expand I was licensed by the board of Ed for common branches and high school, Social Studies. I taught 4 years in a private school, early 70’s. No jobs with the city near bankrupt and a soon to be family I decided to get benefits and go to work for my uncle. Sam was good to me in me for almost 45 years in the USPS. I spent over three decades in the Industrial Engineering department as a support specialist. My love for the weather was solidified when, early on, as a carrier, I delivered two routes in during a 1978 snowstorm in downtown Brooklyn. I left the Service to care for my wife and never regretted that decision. Now, even though the warm season is approaching, Franks words resonate loudly “ and the days grow short, I’m in the Autumn of the year. For that and this forum, a wonderful outlet, I remain grateful. As always ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rclab Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 6:04 PM, weatherpruf said: i used to throw a line with a flounder rig off the the dead end streets in Sea Bright in the early 80's, and catch enough flounder on the incoming tide to feed the family. I'd use earthworms....even if you could catch something today, you probably wouldn't be allowed to fish there... Expand I sometimes went off a belt parkway bridge, past Kings Plaza , can’t remember which one. I used a multiple hook rig but I was mediocre at best. I used blood worms but the damn things go for you when you try to put them on the hook. Not that I blame them. Depending on me as a fishermen would have left the family starving, As always ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 I like cold and dry. Bring it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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