December 2019 Discussion

[WestMichigan]

1 hour ago, weatherbo said:

Looks like a few inches of snow tonight followed by possibly .3-.5” of ice, then rain and 35 degrees tomorrow...followed by heavy snow Monday. Could end up with around 20” of wet snow, with 21” still on the ground here currently.

Send some of that south 

[RogueWaves]

1 hour ago, weatherbo said:

Looks like a few inches of snow tonight followed by possibly .3-.5” of ice, then rain and 35 degrees tomorrow...followed by heavy snow Monday. Could end up with around 20” of wet snow, with 21” still on the ground here currently.

Best enjoy these storms before you become the new Detroit 

[weatherbo]

54 minutes ago, RogueWaves said:

Best enjoy these storms before you become the new Detroit 

I have noticed a lot more freezing rain events and very wet snows, like 10:1 and less. Average winter snow ratio here is 18:1.  Haven’t seen a lot of fluffy snow past couple winters, whether that’s a thing now, idk. 

[A-L-E-K]

0z nam with over 2" of qpf at ord for any record watchers 

[Hoosier]

60 as far north as Quincy right now. 

[wishforsnow]

Just got done moving the heavy wet snow out of my drive while it was raining. Got three inches. Can't use the blower on it due to the very heavy wet nature of it. It is windy as hell. If it was colder it would be a major blizzard here. The rain and snow melt is going to cause major ponding on the streets. If I wanted this I can move back to the Des Moines area. 

[totsata]

Looks like 0.68" from the first wave at ORD which should mean approx. 48.84" YTD. 

 

https://w1.weather.gov/data/obhistory/KORD.html

[hawkeye_wx]

1.09" of rain here.

[A-L-E-K]

36 minutes ago, totsata said:

Looks like 0.68" from the first wave at ORD which should mean approx. 48.84" YTD. 

 

https://w1.weather.gov/data/obhistory/KORD.html

NAM with a solid 1"+ remaining before the year runs out so, 2nd looks like it will be it

[weatherbo]

3 hours ago, wishforsnow said:

Just got done moving the heavy wet snow out of my drive while it was raining. Got three inches. Can't use the blower on it due to the very heavy wet nature of it. It is windy as hell. If it was colder it would be a major blizzard here. The rain and snow melt is going to cause major ponding on the streets. If I wanted this I can move back to the Des Moines area. 

Got more ice than snow here last night.  Trees are drooping really bad.  Looks like another crippling storm- AFD mentions the possibility of several hours of 2-3" of snow per hour in the morning into afternoon tomorrow.  Got a generator after a few days without power earlier this month....bring it

[Chicago Storm]

Looks like 0.68" from the first wave at ORD which should mean approx. 48.84" YTD. 
 
https://w1.weather.gov/data/obhistory/KORD.html

0.94” was the total at ORD with the first round.

1. 2008 - 50.86"
2. 2011 - 49.83"
3. 1983 - 49.35"
4. 2018 - 49.23"
5. 2019 - 49.10”

2nd place will easily be attained with round 2, as only 0.74” is needed. Still an outside chance at 1st, with 1.77” needed.


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[SEiowaWX]

1.19" in the gauge this morning. Good soaking rain especially for this time of year...

[wishforsnow]

2 hours ago, weatherbo said:

Got more ice than snow here last night.  Trees are drooping really bad.  Looks like another crippling storm- AFD mentions the possibility of several hours of 2-3" of snow per hour in the morning into afternoon tomorrow.  Got a generator after a few days without power earlier this month....bring it

I seen over 900 UPPCO customers without power in southern Keweenaw County. No issues with power here in the Houghton-Hancock Metroplex. I wish I had a generator but I do have two Kerosene wick heathers that put out 23000 but a piece. So I can use them to stay warm if power goes out. 

[Hoosier]

Most of the global/non NAM and HRRR guidance had less than 0.75" at ORD with round one, so higher models definitely were better.  Round 2 would really have to underperform to prevent 2nd place.

[cyclone77]

Picked up 1.62" yesterday/early this morning.  Worked out well as it looks like the next wave will miss east later today/tonight.

[michsnowfreak]

16 hours ago, weatherbo said:

I have noticed a lot more freezing rain events and very wet snows, like 10:1 and less. Average winter snow ratio here is 18:1.  Haven’t seen a lot of fluffy snow past couple winters, whether that’s a thing now, idk. 

 It's funny that you mention that because I was thinking about how often over the last couple years it seems that you are talking about very wet snow events. What's funny is down here, much of our snow has been powdery for many years running now. We get the occasional wet snow but there is no doubt about it, powdery and fluffy snow far outnumber wet in recent years. Last year we had more ice than I can ever recall in a single Winter but other than that freezing rain has not been that common either. What it probably is but these storms that are tracking way North and screwing pretty much e everyone but you are squeezing out the cement for you lol

 

[Hoosier]

Looks like a period of strong winds in parts of IN/OH/MI overnight/Monday as the surface low rapidly deepens.  Could even have a brief period of high wind warning criteria gusts imo.  Will be curious to see if the NWS offices start to hit this harder.

[Hoosier]

Temps have been between 55-57 at ORD since 5 am.  Low 60s were forecast for the high which is looking questionable at this point.  This is going to hurt the chances of December's average high temperature coming in warmer than November as a high well into the 60s would've been ideal given expected highs on Mon/Tue.  Every little bit matters at this point.  

[Snowstorms]

34F and rain right now. The worst combo ever. 

 

 

[Hoosier]

7 minutes ago, Snowstorms said:

34F and rain right now. The worst combo ever. 

 

 

Until you have experienced 32 with non freezing rain because the rates are too heavy.  I'd say that is the worst.  

[Hoosier]

This is a shame.  If you told me there'd be a bombing low on this track in December, I'd take it every day of the week.  Unfortunately it's just not going to work out as a significant snow maker this far south.  I think the initial low farther west is the problem in this case.  If that didn't exist and were replaced by a high, would likely get a much quicker change to snow.

[A-L-E-K]

Sad

[nwohweather]

Hell of a roll cloud today

[Hoosier]

5 hours ago, Chicago Storm said:

0.94” was the total at ORD with the first round.

1. 2008 - 50.86"
2. 2011 - 49.83"
3. 1983 - 49.35"
4. 2018 - 49.23"
5. 2019 - 49.10”

2nd place will easily be attained with round 2, as only 0.74” is needed. Still an outside chance at 1st, with 1.77” needed.


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HRRR and NAM have cut back on qpf.  Whether they are right, who knows.  I'm gonna laugh if we have to wait on wraparound snow to get to 2nd place.

[outflow]

4 hours ago, Hoosier said:

Looks like a period of strong winds in parts of IN/OH/MI overnight/Monday as the surface low rapidly deepens.  Could even have a brief period of high wind warning criteria gusts imo.  Will be curious to see if the NWS offices start to hit this harder.

Grr with winds 55 to 60mph and a wwa for that with wrap around snow. Discounting the hrr which showed gusts to 80mph tomorrow morning. 18z gfs has the low down to 975mb

[RogueWaves]

3 hours ago, Hoosier said:

This is a shame.  If you told me there'd be a bombing low on this track in December, I'd take it every day of the week.  Unfortunately it's just not going to work out as a significant snow maker this far south.  I think the initial low farther west is the problem in this case.  If that didn't exist and were replaced by a high, would likely get a much quicker change to snow.

When a pattern's giving you the middle finger, it'll get real creative in how it does it..

[Ottawa Blizzard]

4 hours ago, Snowstorms said:

34F and rain right now. The worst combo ever. 

 

 

Looking like there may be an inch or two of snow on Tuesday.

 

Hoping it does cool down the week of the 6th. The Weather Network's winter forecast looks to be in trouble - they've been calling for an exceptionally cold winter for Ontario, Quebec and the eastern Prairies.

[Hoosier]

ORD is now officially in the hole for snow to date for the first time this fall/winter... 8.8" with 9.0" being average.  The minor snow tomorrow into Tuesday could perhaps get it back to average or some tenths above but pretty much inevitable that the deficit will build again after that.

[IWXwx]

2 hours ago, nwohweather said:

Hell of a roll cloud today

Textbook

[cyclone77]

Pretty spring-like looking sky this afternoon with stratocumulus slowly building up into more convectivy looking towers. Band of low-topped convection developed nearly on top of us in the past hour.  Pretty entertaining little evolution.