Ginx snewx Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, Hoth said: Was in college then in VT. Deets on those systems? Conditions surrounding the storm allowed for several bands of heavy snowfall to set up over New York State and New England, including a small area of 4 in (100 mm) per hour snowfall rates in the Hudson Valley. As a result of extremely cold temperatures over the region, snowfall accumulations were generally significant and broke several daily records. At Albany, New York, 12.5 in (320 mm) of snow fell in just one day. Locations affected by the storm commonly picked up 17 to 24 in (430 to 610 mm), with totals occasionally exceeding 30 in (760 mm).[3] The event led to widespread travel delays from Washington, D.C. to Boston, and around 13 people lost their lives because of the storm. 35.6 of snow inches fell just 14 miles north of Boston in the city of Peabody, Massachusetts.[5] The nor'easter was among the largest early-season winter storms on record to affect the major East Coast cities. Many areas reported blizzard-like conditions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 Seasons Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 oh, i think i see, it's the same storm just a day later and only for Dec 7th, not for 5-6 which hit SNE and NYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 Seasons Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Just now, Ericjcrash said: That Map is grossly inaccurate. NYC got 14" I think its just for 12/7/03. I posted the map for the entire storm from Dec 5-7th i believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 minute ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: Jesus, what a crusher. Surprised I don't remember that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 minute ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: SE MA jack in SNE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 Seasons Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Just now, Hoth said: Jesus, what a crusher. Surprised I don't remember that one. It was quite the bust here. Trust me i remember this vividly. Forecast was for 12-18" and we ended up with about 8". I just looked at the PNS for this storm yesterday. We got slotted to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Just now, Baroclinic Zone said: SE MA jack in SNE 21 here, drifts to 5 feet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 12/5-6/03 is one of the most underrated busts ever. The first part of the storm overperformed for NYC because SNE cleared out overnight ahead of the cirrus shield and the NE flow affected much colder and drier down ahead of the WAA precip than expected. Instead of the 38/35 that was expected it was 38/28. Then the second part of the storm that was supposed to be the main show was disjointed and produced virtually nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, The 4 Seasons said: This is the 12/5-6/03 blizzard, so what is that? There were two back to back major nor'easters 1 day apart in Dec 03? I don't remember that, something isn't adding up Just a time range thing I think. CIPS only has 24 hour snowfall on there, which cuts off southern areas. But if you go back 12 hours you cut off northern areas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 Seasons Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Hoth said: Jesus, what a crusher. Surprised I don't remember that one. Front end dropped about 5" in the evening, then a huge slot, then snsh on and off for another 2 or 3" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ericjcrash said: That Map is grossly inaccurate. NYC got 14" Read the fine print, 24 hr total Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 Seasons Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Just now, SnowGoose69 said: 12/5-6/03 is one of the most underrated busts ever. The first part of the storm overperformed for NYC because SNE cleared out overnight ahead of the cirrus shield and the NE flow affected much colder and drier down ahead of the WAA precip than expected. Instead of the 38/35 that was expected it was 38/28. Then the second part of the storm that was supposed to be the main show was disjointed and produced virtually nothing See my radar, it was a bad bust in CT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Conditions surrounding the storm allowed for several bands of heavy snowfall to set up over New York State and New England, including a small area of 4 in (100 mm) per hour snowfall rates in the Hudson Valley. As a result of extremely cold temperatures over the region, snowfall accumulations were generally significant and broke several daily records. At Albany, New York, 12.5 in (320 mm) of snow fell in just one day. Locations affected by the storm commonly picked up 17 to 24 in (430 to 610 mm), with totals occasionally exceeding 30 in (760 mm).[3] The event led to widespread travel delays from Washington, D.C. to Boston, and around 13 people lost their lives because of the storm. 35.6 of snow inches fell just 14 miles north of Boston in the city of Peabody, Massachusetts.[5] The nor'easter was among the largest early-season winter storms on record to affect the major East Coast cities. Many areas reported blizzard-like conditions Thanks, Steve. Amazed a storm of that magnitude eludes my memory, but then again, I was in college and probably cramming for finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ericjcrash said: That Map is grossly inaccurate. NYC got 14" It's not really. It's 24 hour snowfall ending 12z on the 7th. So it doesn't have any snow for the 5th into the morning of the 6th. I had to pick a time window and this one had the most snow to highlight what type of event it was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Just now, The 4 Seasons said: See my radar, it was a bad bust in CT Many people mistakenly think the WAA snow on Friday wasn’t forecast like January 2011 but it was actually forecast well. It was the temps that weren’t and so it was snow and not rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 Seasons Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Just now, Hoth said: Thanks, Steve. Amazed a storm of that magnitude eludes my memory, but then again, I was in college and probably cramming for finals. Because it was one of the lamest storms ever for our area, similar to 1-26-15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, The 4 Seasons said: It was quite the bust here. Trust me i remember this vividly. Forecast was for 12-18" and we ended up with about 8". I just looked at the PNS for this storm yesterday. We got slotted to death. Ouch, we had a couple like that in March '18. Man, those do hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, SnowGoose69 said: 12/5-6/03 is one of the most underrated busts ever. The first part of the storm overperformed for NYC because SNE cleared out overnight ahead of the cirrus shield and the NE flow affected much colder and drier down ahead of the WAA precip than expected. Instead of the 38/35 that was expected it was 38/28. Then the second part of the storm that was supposed to be the main show was disjointed and produced virtually nothing I feel like this is a pretty common bust on modeling. Just happened on a much smaller scale with our last warning event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Just now, The 4 Seasons said: See my radar, it was a bad bust in CT Practically every model has a shredded surface with dry air intruding just north of H7. Something to keep in mind imo next few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, The 4 Seasons said: See my radar, it was a bad bust in CT Oof. Yeah, head to the Q bridge for that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Read the fine print, 24 hr total Yeah, individual storm pages don't have 72 hour totals, but the overall analog page does. So for all the IMBY that get upset when their ruler ob doesn't match the map... and 1/4/03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Just now, OceanStWx said: I feel like this is a pretty common bust on modeling. Just happened on a much smaller scale with our last warning event. The worst thing was nobody reacted that morning when it was evident the forecast was in serious trouble. There was insane rates of rainfall moving up the NJ coast and it was 35/26 or something in NYC and basically all everyone did was push the changeover time back when in reality no significant warming was occurring on a NE wind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hoth said: Thanks, Steve. Amazed a storm of that magnitude eludes my memory, but then again, I was in college and probably cramming for finals. The Jan 03 2003 storm was epic in the Albany area too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, The 4 Seasons said: Front end dropped about 5" in the evening, then a huge slot, then snsh on and off for another 2 or 3" That CIPS page has really expanded the fields you can look at regarding old events. The banding signature was pretty great. 850 mb through 450 mb essentially stacked f-gen. Leading to a really solid single band like your radar images show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 Seasons Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Hoth said: Oof. Yeah, head to the Q bridge for that one. NYC got smoked with 10-24 and this is CT 12-5/6-03 analog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, The 4 Seasons said: See my radar, it was a bad bust in CT Sorry not all of Ct 21 here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 Seasons Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Just now, Ginx snewx said: Sorry not all of Ct 21 here I didnt say all, i know i read your post from earlier. The majority of CT was bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Ginx snewx said: The Jan 03 2003 storm was epic in the Albany area too Those 2003 storms really sucked as a new college met student. 12/7/03 I was in Ithaca before break, Rhody was slammed. 1/4/03 I was home on holiday break and ITH got slammed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Just now, OceanStWx said: Those 2003 storms really sucked as a new college met student. 12/7/03 I was in Ithaca before break, Rhody was slammed. 1/4/03 I was home on holiday break and ITH got slammed. While we're at it 12/26/02 another RI whiff while home on holiday break. I definitely remember the back to back events that I missed while home in RI. I'm sure @ORH_wxman has the same memory of missing the ITH goods (though ORH was admittedly much better off than East Bay RI). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 Seasons Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Just now, OceanStWx said: While we're at it 12/26/02 another RI whiff while home on holiday break. I definitely remember the back to back events that I missed while home in RI. I'm sure @ORH_wxman has the same memory of missing the ITH goods (though ORH was admittedly much better off than East Bay RI). Those were the twin 20"+ Albany storms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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