doncat Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Current rain stats...1.31" this event, 6.97" for month and 61.04" for year...2nd straight year with 60" +. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 hours ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said: Very true. Yet somehow 4 of the last 5 years in NYC March has been the snowiest month of the season. 1956, 1958, 1959 and 1960 had its biggest snowfall and most monthly snow in March... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, uncle W said: 1956, 1958, 1959 and 1960 had its biggest snowfall and most monthly snow in March... a couple of those were decent winters but not extremely snowy (over 50" seasonal snowfall.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, doncat said: Current rain stats...1.31" this event, 6.97" for month and 61.04" for year...2nd straight year with 60" +. consecutive 60" rainfall years was unheard of prior to this decade lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 16 minutes ago, forkyfork said: that might not last that long Yep I've been hearing a lot about a very cold January coming up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Gorilla Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 30 minutes ago, CIK62 said: Christmas Week is looking like 1982. Ultimately that winter proved to be a 10-day flyby in the second week of Feb. There seems to be almost no sub-zero 850mb T's during the period. A dog chasing his own tail analogy may start to apply if early Jan. does not change this, and promises of cold slip further into the future again. That winter was in a very strong El Nino. Thankfully this one isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Gorilla Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, ILoveWinter said: Didn’t we have a snow squall warning? Wonder if that’s possible again tomorrow. I remember the national weather service issuing a severe thunder snow squall warning a few years ago somewhere in upstate New York with CG lighting and intense winds along the passage of an arctic front. God I wish I could have seen that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Gorilla Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, bluewave said: Root for the MJO to make it over to phase 7 if you like cold in January. Taking some steroids away from the Pac jet would help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 30 minutes ago, CIK62 said: Christmas Week is looking like 1982. Ultimately that winter proved to be a 10-day flyby in the second week of Feb. There seems to be almost no sub-zero 850mb T's during the period. A dog chasing his own tail analogy may start to apply if early Jan. does not change this, and promises of cold slip further into the future again. We have been in a cold pattern since early Nov. Dont lose sight of that for one week over 40s Im also propping up evergreens on my property that a bent over from ice as I type this 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, jfklganyc said: We have been in a cold pattern since early Nov. Dont lose sight of that for one week over 40s Im also propping up evergreens on my property that a bent over from ice as I type this its a cold pattern for strictly mathematical reasons, but not a good pattern for snow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 16 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: its a cold pattern for strictly mathematical reasons, but not a good pattern for snow. Warm and wet storm track followed by cold and dry. But the last true Arctic air mass was over a month ago. Plenty of Pacific modification to the air mass over the CONUS. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 4 wintry events this month, 12/1, 12/2, 12/10 and today. Didn't yield giant totals, but not bad for early season wintry events 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Brian5671 said: 4 wintry events this month, 12/1, 12/2, 12/10 and today. Didn't yield giant totals, but not bad for early season wintry events well being a winter purist, what I consider a wintry event is any event (no matter its size) that doesn't change to rain (unless at the very end of the event, when it doesn't really matter.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncat Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Just now, Brian5671 said: 4 wintry events this month, 12/1, 12/2, 12/10 and today. Didn't yield giant totals, but not bad for early season wintry events Yeah and Nov was well below normal also...it's been wintry this month even though some of us haven't gotten the big snow totals. Very wintry Temps coming next several days also... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Gorilla Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: 4 wintry events this month, 12/1, 12/2, 12/10 and today. Didn't yield giant totals, but not bad for early season wintry events Has been much better for inland areas. I can understand the coastal folks much more frustrated. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, White Gorilla said: Has been much better for inland areas. I can understand the coastal folks much more frustrated. back to normal climo at least for the time being. Hartford CT has approx 30 inches of snow on the season while Bridgeport has 8 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, White Gorilla said: Has been much better for inland areas. I can understand the coastal folks much more frustrated. I for one am not frustrated, I just dont like rain and cant wait for drier weather with lots of sunshine- regardless of temps lol. I do get frustrated when someone tries to say that we've been "unlucky." This has nothing to do with luck, it's all part of the pattern, just like it was last winter. Years ago I remember seeing a chart that went something like this: December: Inland (snow) City (mixed) Long Island (rain) January: Inland (snow) City (snow) Long Island (mixed) February: Inland (snow) City (snow) Long Island (snow) I think this needs to be retooled a bit, as the big winter storms seem to start around January 20th now. December is really more like an exhibition month, the preseason lol. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: back to normal climo at least for the time being. Hartford CT has approx 30 inches of snow on the season while Bridgeport has 8 Boston has run well ahead of us too, it's all about latitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinRP37 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: back to normal climo at least for the time being. Hartford CT has approx 30 inches of snow on the season while Bridgeport has 8 Hartford has recorded approximately 19.5 inches of snow through the season thus far. The average for this date is 5.2. So yes, we’ll ahead of the curve, not 30 inches. Where is the 30 inches coming from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Gorilla Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, JustinRP37 said: Hartford has recorded approximately 19.5 inches of snow through the season thus far. The average for this date is 5.2. So yes, we’ll ahead of the curve, not 30 inches. Where is the 30 inches coming from? Up here in Poughkeepsie we are similar I believe snowfall wise. Yes, climo no doubt a big factor. Don't worry, Jan and Feb will deliver imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, JustinRP37 said: Hartford has recorded approximately 19.5 inches of snow through the season thus far. The average for this date is 5.2. So yes, we’ll ahead of the curve, not 30 inches. Where is the 30 inches coming from? typo, I meant to type 20, not 30. Still, more than double what we have at the coast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Gorilla Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, bluewave said: The interior leads in snowfall over the coast for the first 16 days of the month are at record levels. This isn’t the usual interior doing better than the coast for this time of year. I guess this is payback for January 2016. Time Series Summary for Albany Area, NY (ThreadEx) Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Ending Date Total Snowfall Dec 1 to Dec 16 NYC Snowfall 1 2003-12-16 27.1 19.8 2 1915-12-16 25.8 6.1 3 2019-12-16 24.5 1.8 4 1902-12-16 23.7 7.9 5 1981-12-16 23.0 2.1 Jan 2016 was the ultimate interior screw job. I literally felt sick to my stomach seeing a dusting while 90 miles south had an ultimate 2 feet blizzard. This will be very hard to make up for. Kind of like how March 2001 feels for so many around NYC and New Jersey, although that feeling was worse for them since the bullseye was initially there. We interior folks were never in the game to begin with in Jan 16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, White Gorilla said: Jan 2016 was the ultimate interior screw job. I literally felt sick to my stomach seeing a dusting while 90 miles south had an ultimate 2 feet blizzard. This will be very hard to make up for. Kind of like how March 2001 feels for so many around NYC and New Jersey. Well you shoulda been here for 2/6/10, when you only had to go 10 miles down the NJ turnpike to see a foot, and more the further south you went....Boxing Day was also a mostly coastal event; 10 miles or so from the coast there was a huge cutoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Just now, bluewave said: I actually don’t mind missing out with such an unfavorable pattern for snowfall at the coast in December. It’s when patterns favorable for heavy snowstorms miss my area or don’t pan out. Watching the 50 DBZ snow band over CT on 2-9-13 and the big 1-26-15 miss were much harder to take. 2/6/10...the ultimate heartbreaker. At least those others delivered a decent snow if not an all out crush job. I had a 2 inch mini blizzard that day, complete with mini drifts of 4 -5 inches. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Gorilla Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 16 minutes ago, weatherpruf said: Well you shoulda been here for 2/6/10, when you only had to go 10 miles down the NJ turnpike to see a foot, and more the further south you went....Boxing Day was also a mostly coastal event; 10 miles or so from the coast there was a huge cutoff. Boxing Day actually delivered quite nicely up here in Poughkeepsie and surrounding. We had 16 inches. Not as much as the 2-3 foot amounts near the coast, but I was still very happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kat5hurricane Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 50 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: 4 wintry events this month, 12/1, 12/2, 12/10 and today. Didn't yield giant totals, but not bad for early season wintry events It depends on where you're located. In northeast Queens, I've gotten slightly more than bupkis. Around 2 inches total with some white rain mixed in. Heavy salt though so good for the salt lovers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 55 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: back to normal climo at least for the time being. Hartford CT has approx 30 inches of snow on the season while Bridgeport has 8 Bridgeport has more than me at 5 :() Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinRP37 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 53 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: typo, I meant to type 20, not 30. Still, more than double what we have at the coast Definitely. Always latitude. We have been lucky in the nyc metro this past decade. My parents still live near Hartford so I was like my dad didn’t tell me about any 30 inches! Haha I still love to ski at Ski Sundown up there. My grandparents lives on the CT shore growing up and most Christmases we would have snow in central CT and they never had anything at the shore. We’ll see what this winter brings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatamy Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Ericjcrash said: Sign me up. That was an epic 15 minutes. Best part was how it moved under the radar while crossing central Pennsylvania and many posters thought it had dissipated. That really was crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 41 minutes ago, bluewave said: That’s one of the biggest misses just to our south of all-time. Probably the most extreme bookend winter for snowfall. Very odd to get a 50” season in NYC with so little between 12-21 and 02-09. Only a few inches more snowfall than over the same period last year. Time Series Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NY Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Ending Date Total Snowfall Dec 21 to Feb 9 Missing Count 2019-02-09 1.1 0 2018-02-09 12.4 0 2017-02-09 17.3 0 2016-02-09 30.5 0 2015-02-09 22.2 0 2014-02-09 32.9 0 2013-02-09 14.1 0 2012-02-09 4.3 0 2011-02-09 57.6 0 2010-02-09 4.6 0 All the storms missed my area to some extent that year, but even the "misses" left me with 8-12...with the exception of that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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