SnoSki14 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, Snow88 said: Euro starts the city out as snow then goes to ice. It's the coldest model. Gonna have to watch that closely. I think ice is a much bigger concern obviously as surface temps will be very slow to warm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said: Gonna have to watch that closely. I think ice is a much bigger concern obviously as surface temps will be very slow to warm. Mt Holly nws morning afd noted potential of 0.25 freezing rain in the interior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 19 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said: Gonna have to watch that closely. I think ice is a much bigger concern obviously as surface temps will be very slow to warm. Euro and Nam are starting to see the Low level cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 The next 8 days are averaging 38degs. or about 2degs. AN Month to date is -2.3[37.9]. Should be about -0.6[38.1]by the 22nd. 53* here at 6am, Fog<0.1mile. T has been variable, 54* at 10am+Fog is back. 57* at Noon. 52* by 3pm, variable Fog, breezy now. GFS has no Snow anytime, EURO is 4" on the 16th-17th., GEM is 2" and then 6" on the 22nd. We could still have two more 50-Degree Days, before year ends and maybe one single digit AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathermedic Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 2.4 inches so far here in Sheepshead Bay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Is the rest of the month trending warmer on latest models? Agreed with weather sucking 47F Fog at 7am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 1.85" since it started yesterday. Finishing the year like we started, saturated and soggy. This rollercoaster is getting annoying, we keep going from fall to winter, mud to snow to mud. I'm over it. Bring on spring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 2 hours ago, SnoSki14 said: Gonna have to watch that closely. I think ice is a much bigger concern obviously as surface temps will be very slow to warm. I think someone sees a nice period of snow with this because the initial surge is coming from a pretty strung out disturbance. I would be more worried at this point that we see QPF drop off then a warming trend because some of the guidance really shows this as a sheared mess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 355 NOUS41 KOKX 141224 PNSOKX CTZ005>012-NJZ002-004-006-103>108-NYZ067>075-078>081-176>179-150024- Public Information Statement Spotter Reports National Weather Service New York NY 724 AM EST Sat Dec 14 2019 The following are unofficial observations taken during the past 26 hours for the storm that has been affecting our region. Appreciation is extended to highway departments, cooperative observers, Skywarn spotters and media for these reports. This summary also is available on our home page at weather.gov/nyc ********************STORM TOTAL RAINFALL******************** LOCATION STORM TOTAL TIME/DATE COMMENTS RAINFALL OF /INCHES/ MEASUREMENT CONNECTICUT ...Fairfield County... Westport 2.52 647 AM 12/14 CWOP Westport 2.38 705 AM 12/14 CWOP Bridgeport Airport 2.33 652 AM 12/14 ASOS 1 NW Stratford 2.28 705 AM 12/14 AWS Shelton 2.14 631 AM 12/14 CWOP Danbury 2.08 703 AM 12/14 CWOP 3 N New Canaan 2.02 704 AM 12/14 AWS Danbury 1.96 658 AM 12/14 CWOP Norwalk 1.91 656 AM 12/14 CWOP Stratford 1.88 701 AM 12/14 CWOP Monroe 1.88 702 AM 12/14 CWOP Westport 1.83 700 AM 12/14 CWOP 3 NE Wilton 1.77 705 AM 12/14 AWS Danbury Airport 1.55 653 AM 12/14 ASOS Greenwich 1.55 702 AM 12/14 CWOP 2 SW Bridgeport 1.48 705 AM 12/14 AWS Stamford 1.43 700 AM 12/14 CWOP Redding 1.36 700 AM 12/14 CWOP Danbury 1.21 703 AM 12/14 CWOP 1 WSW Shelton 1.07 704 AM 12/14 AWS ...Middlesex County... East Haddam 2.38 702 AM 12/14 CWOP Killingsworth 2.23 630 AM 12/14 CWOP Clinton 2.16 704 AM 12/14 CWOP 2 N Durham 1.99 704 AM 12/14 AWS Durham 1.92 702 AM 12/14 CWOP Clinton 1.46 700 AM 12/14 CWOP ...New Haven County... Milford 3.02 658 AM 12/14 CWOP East Haven 2.63 702 AM 12/14 CWOP New Haven Airport 2.50 653 AM 12/14 ASOS Seymour 2.22 702 AM 12/14 CWOP 1 E Branford 2.20 704 AM 12/14 AWS Southbury 2.09 702 AM 12/14 CWOP 2 WNW Woodmont 2.07 705 AM 12/14 AWS 1 ESE New Haven 2.06 704 AM 12/14 AWS Wallingford 2.04 700 AM 12/14 CWOP Branford 1.98 705 AM 12/14 CWOP Meriden Airport 1.91 653 AM 12/14 ASOS Bethany 1.84 701 AM 12/14 CWOP New Haven 1.78 701 AM 12/14 CWOP Waterbury Airport 1.74 651 AM 12/14 AWOS 1 NE Meriden 1.26 705 AM 12/14 AWS 3 SE Branford 1.18 705 AM 12/14 AWS Cheshire 1.05 226 AM 12/14 CWOP ...New London County... Groton Airport 2.16 656 AM 12/14 ASOS New London 1.49 705 AM 12/14 CWOP Lyme 1.49 701 AM 12/14 CWOP Lisbon 1.39 702 AM 12/14 CWOP New London 1.25 703 AM 12/14 CWOP NEW JERSEY ...Bergen County... Oradell 1.57 429 AM 12/14 CWOP Tenafly 1.57 704 AM 12/14 URBANET 2 N Wyckoff 1.56 600 AM 12/14 IFLOWS Hasbrouck Heights 1.54 702 AM 12/14 CWOP Maywood 1.45 659 AM 12/14 CWOP Teterboro Airport 1.45 651 AM 12/14 ASOS Ridgewood 1.42 700 AM 12/14 Trained Spotter Haworth 1.41 600 AM 12/14 NJWXNET 1 SSE Franklin Lakes 1.32 645 AM 12/14 IFLOWS Tenafly 1.30 704 AM 12/14 CWOP Park Ridge 1.23 245 AM 12/14 IFLOWS Lodi 1.20 600 AM 12/14 IFLOWS Norwood 1.18 704 AM 12/14 AWS 1 W Oakland 1.09 500 AM 12/14 HADS Oakland 1.00 700 AM 12/14 CWOP ...Essex County... 2 W Millburn 1.40 615 AM 12/14 HADS Cedar Grove 1.34 650 AM 12/14 CWOP Bloomfield 1.32 700 AM 12/14 CWOP West Orange 1.11 705 AM 12/14 CWOP Caldwell 1.01 653 AM 12/14 ASOS ...Hudson County... Jersey City 1.52 600 AM 12/14 NJWXNET Weehawken 1.08 705 AM 12/14 AWS Harrison 1.08 704 AM 12/14 Co-Op Observer Bayonne 1.05 705 AM 12/14 AWS ...Passaic County... Ringwood 1.32 410 AM 12/14 RAWS Butler 1.31 630 AM 12/14 CWOP West Milford 1.28 615 AM 12/14 IFLOWS Charlottesburg Reser 1.28 630 AM 12/14 Co-Op Observer 3 E Green Pond 1.24 500 AM 12/14 IFLOWS Passaic 1.22 700 AM 12/14 CWOP 1 SE Pompton Lakes 1.19 600 AM 12/14 HADS 1 E West Paterson 1.12 545 AM 12/14 HADS 2 ENE Green Pond 1.09 600 AM 12/14 NJWXNET West Milford 1.08 704 AM 12/14 CWOP 2 NW Green Pond 1.00 500 AM 12/14 IFLOWS 2 SW Ringwood 1.00 600 AM 12/14 IFLOWS ...Union County... Newark Airport 1.47 651 AM 12/14 ASOS Union 1.04 701 AM 12/14 CWOP NEW YORK ...Kings County... Sheepshead Bay 2.37 700 AM 12/14 CWOP Brooklyn 1.53 705 AM 12/14 CWOP Manhattan Beach 1.28 704 AM 12/14 CWOP ...Nassau County... Woodbury 3.44 704 AM 12/14 CWOP Muttontown 3.01 701 AM 12/14 CWOP Carle Place 2.93 659 AM 12/14 CWOP Great Neck 2.80 703 AM 12/14 CWOP Oyster Bay 2.62 700 AM 12/14 CWOP Levittown 2.58 645 AM 12/14 CWOP Syosset 2.53 705 AM 12/14 CWOP East Rockaway 2.43 700 AM 12/14 CWOP Thomaston 2.35 704 AM 12/14 AWS Westbury 2.19 705 AM 12/14 AWS North Merrick 2.16 703 AM 12/14 CWOP Valley Stream 2.14 701 AM 12/14 CWOP Matinecock 2.01 705 AM 12/14 AWS Old Westbury 1.98 656 AM 12/14 CWOP Merrick 1.46 702 AM 12/14 CWOP Massapequa Park 1.43 703 AM 12/14 CWOP Bellmore 1.35 705 AM 12/14 AWS Wantagh 1.30 703 AM 12/14 CWOP Freeport 1.28 704 AM 12/14 AWS ...New York County... Central Park 1.93 651 AM 12/14 ASOS New York 1.66 701 AM 12/14 CWOP 1 SE Edgewater 1.49 705 AM 12/14 AWS ...Orange County... Usma 1.32 655 AM 12/14 RAWS Middletown 1.27 700 AM 12/14 CWOP Vails Gate 1.04 701 AM 12/14 CWOP Salisbury Mills 1.02 705 AM 12/14 CWOP ...Queens County... Bellerose 2.99 701 AM 12/14 CWOP NYC/JFK Airport 2.72 651 AM 12/14 ASOS Jackson Heights 2.18 704 AM 12/14 CWOP NYC/La Guardia 2.05 651 AM 12/14 ASOS Beechhurst 1.29 704 AM 12/14 CWOP Little Neck 1.07 1045 PM 12/13 Trained Spotter ...Richmond County... Staten Island 1.79 701 AM 12/14 CWOP ...Rockland County... Nanuet 1.55 445 AM 12/14 IFLOWS Sloatsburg 1.25 702 AM 12/14 CWOP 1 SSW Mount Ivy 1.12 705 AM 12/14 AWS Blauvelt 1.06 701 AM 12/14 CWOP Spring Valley 1.01 700 AM 12/14 CWOP Montebello 1.00 703 AM 12/14 CWOP ...Suffolk County... Lake Ronkonkoma 2.90 701 AM 12/14 CWOP Terryville 2.89 704 AM 12/14 CWOP Northport 2.87 700 AM 12/14 CWOP Islip Airport 2.81 656 AM 12/14 ASOS Shirley Airport 2.58 656 AM 12/14 ASOS Stony Brook 2.57 704 AM 12/14 CWOP Dix Hills 2.55 704 AM 12/14 CWOP Baiting Hollow 2.53 705 AM 12/14 CWOP Port Jefferson Stati 2.48 657 AM 12/14 CWOP Kings Park 2.46 703 AM 12/14 CWOP Upton 2.37 700 AM 12/14 NWS Office Eastport 2.29 645 AM 12/14 RAWS East Northport 2.19 627 AM 12/14 CWOP Sayville 2.16 645 AM 12/14 CWOP Smithtown 2.15 701 AM 12/14 CWOP Fort Salonga 2.13 702 AM 12/14 CWOP West Islip 2.08 704 AM 12/14 CWOP Miller Place 2.06 702 AM 12/14 CWOP Farmingville 2.05 702 AM 12/14 CWOP Greenlawn 2.05 402 AM 12/14 CWOP Westhampton Airport 1.99 653 AM 12/14 ASOS Melville 1.95 650 AM 12/14 CWOP Fort Salonga 1.87 654 AM 12/14 AWS Cutchogue 1.86 703 AM 12/14 CWOP Eastport 1.83 628 AM 12/14 CWOP Farmingdale Airport 1.78 653 AM 12/14 ASOS N. Babylon 1.65 705 AM 12/14 CWOP 1 WNW Babylon 1.61 655 AM 12/14 AWS Melville 1.60 701 AM 12/14 CWOP Islip Terrace 1.52 700 AM 12/14 CWOP Orient 1.41 700 AM 12/14 CWOP North Babylon 1.38 702 AM 12/14 CWOP West Gilgo Beach 1.35 701 AM 12/14 CWOP Hampton Bays 1.29 702 AM 12/14 CWOP Southold 1.26 703 AM 12/14 CWOP Cutchogue 1.24 703 AM 12/14 CWOP Blue Point 1.18 645 AM 12/14 CWOP East Hampton 1.10 703 AM 12/14 CWOP Hampton Bays 1.09 707 AM 12/14 AWS Orient 1.04 700 AM 12/14 CWOP ...Westchester County... Mount Kisco 2.13 705 AM 12/14 CWOP White Plains Airport 2.02 656 AM 12/14 ASOS Tarrytown 1.91 702 AM 12/14 CWOP Armonk 1.58 703 AM 12/14 CWOP Pleasantville 1.49 704 AM 12/14 AWS Armonk 1.29 701 AM 12/14 CWOP Midland Park 1.28 630 AM 12/14 IFLOWS Peekskill 1.23 703 AM 12/14 CWOP Mamaroneck 1.17 704 AM 12/14 AWS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 ^^ Putnam County - Mahopac - 1.87 @ 8:30am - 1.02 in the last 8 1/2 hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCweatherNOW Posted December 14, 2019 Author Share Posted December 14, 2019 2 hours ago, CIK62 said: The next 8 days are averaging 38degs. or about 2degs. AN Month to date is -2.3[37.9]. Should be about -0.6[38.1]by the 22nd. 53* here at 6am, Fog<0.1mile. GFS has no Snow anytime, EURO is 4" on the 16th-17th., GEM is 2" and then 6" on the 22nd. We could still have two more 50-Degree Days, before year ends and maybe one single digit AM How do you calculate this, the next ten days the only above average day is today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 A top 2 day rainfall total in December for JFK. Maximum 2-Day Total Precipitation for JFK INTL AP, NY Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Value Ending Date Missing Days 1 3.23 2008-12-12 0 2 3.15 2014-12-10 0 3 3.04 2014-12-09 0 4 3.00 1992-12-11 0 5 2.95 1996-12-07 0 6 2.86 1948-12-31 0 7 2.75 1992-12-12 0 8 2.72 2019-12-14 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasiluvsnow Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Dan76 said: Roads are a mess cross island closed UGH driving to the Islander game in a bit and I have to stop off in the City first thanks for the heads up I will check traffic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasiluvsnow Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Snow88 said: Euro starts the city out as snow then goes to ice. It's the coldest model. hey 88 and others I understand it is what the models are showing and foolish not to keep an eye on it but don't the models usually have a difficult time with Ice ? I mean when they are showing ice or Z a few days before the event isn't it usually something else besides ice ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, Brasiluvsnow said: hey 88 and others I understand it is what the models are showing and foolish not to keep an eye on it but don't the models usually have a difficult time with Ice ? I mean when they are showing ice or Z a few days before the event isn't it usually something else besides ice ? Yes they do 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPcantmeasuresnow Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 1 hour ago, gravitylover said: 1.85" since it started yesterday. Finishing the year like we started, saturated and soggy. This rollercoaster is getting annoying, we keep going from fall to winter, mud to snow to mud. I'm over it. Bring on spring Who are you kidding, you're far from over it. It's only just begun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Jb likes 3-6 from NYC to Boston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasiluvsnow Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Snow88 said: Yes they do I'm learning a wee bit each day and I am getting there little by little , Thanks 88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Snow88 said: Jb likes 3-6 from NYC to Boston Shocker. But that is plausible before a changeover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowshack Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Usually see Upton go with a blend of solutions but they seem to be going against the Euro and the Gfs. There is some uncertainty as to how quickly the cold air will be replaced as high pressure tracks off shore Monday. With the progressive low have leaned toward a slightly warmer solutions, unlike the GFS and ECMWF. This low is forecast to track along the frontal boundary, moving in the vicinity of the forecast area Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Just now, Ericjcrash said: Shocker. But that is plausible before a changeover. Depends how fast the precip comes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Nam is flatter and colder though 42 hours than 6z so far 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduggs Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 NAM still rides up the Apps with the SLP but it's a lot slower. A couple of surges of precip. out ahead of the system are frozen from the MA up through our area. But the 500mb depiction is still unfavorable for snow. Ice maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Gorilla Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Mid level warmth is usually under forecasted in these setups. Almost every single time, I start hearing pingers after initial snow much sooner than progged. It is almost a given. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPcantmeasuresnow Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Just now, White Gorilla said: Mid level warmth is usually under forecasted in these setups. Almost every single time, I start hearing pingers after initial snow much sooner than progged. It is almost a given. I said almost the same thing verbatim on the NW burbs thread about ten minutes ago. I hate that sound. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Gorilla Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said: I said almost the same thing verbatim on the NW burbs thread about ten minutes ago. I hate that sound. I know exactly how you feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Selfishly only need 2 inches to surpass last year at this time. Even though the pattern is not ideal, it's keeping us busy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 12 minutes ago, eduggs said: NAM still rides up the Apps with the SLP but it's a lot slower. A couple of surges of precip. out ahead of the system are frozen from the MA up through our area. But the 500mb depiction is still unfavorable for snow. Ice maybe. Nam barely has rain after it starts as snow and ice for many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, White Gorilla said: Mid level warmth is usually under forecasted in these setups. Almost every single time, I start hearing pingers after initial snow much sooner than progged. It is almost a given. and low level cold is usually under forecasted also 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NycStormChaser Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Multiple cars stranded on the Cross Island right now due to flooding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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