Damage In Tolland Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Just now, Ginx snewx said: Your days of yore were in Vernon though and yea nothing to write home about in Dec 1979 to 1999 HFD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 13 minutes ago, snowman21 said: Average number of days with snow cover in CT: NORFOLK 2 SW: 101.8 BAKERSVILLE: 80.0 BARKHAMSTED: 59.5 WOODBURY: 48.4 DANBURY: 46.8 WEST THOMPSON LAKE: 44.2 MIDDLETOWN 4 W: 41.9 HARTFORD: 41.3 MANSFIELD HOLLOW LAKE: 40.3 MT CARMEL: 38.4 BRIDGEPORT SIKORSKY AP: 29.1 GROTON: 21.8 Toss those coop snow totals as long and far as you can . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Just now, Damage In Tolland said: And I don’t agree it’s more hostile than Morch I didn't say more...pretty similar in aggregate...Dec more hostile first half, March second half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Sugarloaf1989 said: If we are talking about currently, he probably has old pack like I do. He said on average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Just now, 40/70 Benchmark said: I didn't say more...pretty similar in aggregate...Dec more hostile first half, March second half. Right. Not sure why people can’t accept climo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: HFD? Area? I can run Storrs with the same . Vernon is not a weenie spot. Torch spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 I’d rather a 17” bomb that goes away in 4 days versus staring at a crusty 3” pack in December. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 17 minutes ago, snowman21 said: Average number of days with snow cover in CT: NORFOLK 2 SW: 101.8 BAKERSVILLE: 80.0 BARKHAMSTED: 59.5 WOODBURY: 48.4 DANBURY: 46.8 WEST THOMPSON LAKE: 44.2 MIDDLETOWN 4 W: 41.9 HARTFORD: 41.3 MANSFIELD HOLLOW LAKE: 40.3 MT CARMEL: 38.4 BRIDGEPORT SIKORSKY AP: 29.1 GROTON: 21.8 That's a pretty extraordinary variance across such a small state. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 minute ago, CoastalWx said: He said on average. I would imagine average depth for a day. 10 spots averaged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Hoth said: That's a pretty extraordinary variance across such a small state. Thanks. Coop data besides a few is notoriously missing data. If you look deep you can see how sporadic the database is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, DavisStraight said: Not sure how accurate that is for southeast Maine, my sister lives there and does better than me and if you look at the mass-Conn map it looks like 60-70 goes into southeast Maine. You can use this as a comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 23 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: Will’s map? It's an older version of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: TBH, those 60 temps w high dews will vaoporize a pack faster than 60/20 day under March sun.. I was thinking that too. Much rather watch the snow slowly disappear when it’s sunny and 45F by day and 15F at night and clear skies....than going to bed with a foot and waking up to 58/58 with 1” rain and a foggy lawn. Just a slow decrease of 1-2” a day maybe instead of just vaporized in 8 hours while you sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Just now, powderfreak said: I was thinking that too. Much rather watch the snow slowly disappear when it’s sunny and 45F by day and 15F at night and clear skies....than going to bed with a foot and waking up to 58/58 with 1” rain and a foggy lawn. Just a slow decrease of 1-2” a day maybe instead of just vaporized in 8 hours while you sleep. And we have had some pretty good March snows lately that lasted longer than Dec ones. Fluff vaporizes with Sun no matter the month. All about the base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Just now, Ginx snewx said: And we have had some pretty good March snows lately that lasted longer than Dec ones. Fluff vaporizes with Sun no matter the month. All about the base. Yeah March 2015. That shit just didn't melt fast as it was a glacier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Ginx snewx said: And we have had some pretty good March snows lately that lasted longer than Dec ones. Fluff vaporizes with Sun no matter the month. All about the base. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 I'm going to arbitrarily select the 50% of days >1" threshold as the cutoffs for my pack season. So this would suggest roughly 12/12 through 4/1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
512high Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Just now, CoastalWx said: Yeah March 2015. That shit just didn't melt fast as it was a glacier. that was a great season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: And we have had some pretty good March snows lately that lasted longer than Dec ones. Fluff vaporizes with Sun no matter the month. All about the base. Yes it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 13 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Right. Not sure why people can’t accept climo. Climo doesn’t mean thats what normal is. I’ll never understand that. If it was we’d have 38 all December 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Area? I can run Storrs with the same . Vernon is not a weenie spot. Torch spot Yes Vernon torches almost as bad as IJD on Se winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: I’d rather a 17” bomb that goes away in 4 days versus staring at a crusty 3” pack in December. That’s crazy but to each their own . Stat padding at its finest . You’d rather have 17” melt in 2 days in Morch than a white , festive Xmas. Noted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 It's hard to run the table in early December. Really hard. Exception is the obscenely weenie CAD areas of NNE and the usual upslope spots. And even some of those spots will start their run more toward mid-December. A lot of our great Decembers in SNE didn't even really get going until mid-month. In 2008, it wasn't until 12/19...in 2007, not until 12/13. There's been a few exceptions of course like 1970, 1995, 2002....but so often you might just punt the first 10-15 days of December. Even in good Decembers. If we end up re-establishing the snowpack next Tuesday, then we will have been really fortunate thus far. I think I've had a total of about 30 hours without pack this entire month...basically Dec 1st before the snow started late afternoon and then Tuesday afternoon/evening before the rain flipped back to snow overnight. That's pretty amazing for a 12 day period of hostile snowpack climo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Just now, Damage In Tolland said: That’s crazy but to each their own . Stat padding at its finest . You’d rather have 17” melt in 2 days in Morch than a white , festive Xmas. Noted Are we talking a day or a month? Weird goalpost change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Just now, Ginx snewx said: Are we talking a day or a month? Weird goalpost change Let’s do this. You can do it. Create a poll.. Do people prefer Dec snows or Morch snows. It’s black and white. Let’s see how it plays out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Let’s do this. You can do it. Create a poll.. Do people prefer Dec snows or Morch snows. It’s black and white. Let’s see how it plays out So do people prefer snow for Christmas day or do they prefer 95/75 July 4th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnno Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Let’s do this. You can do it. Create a poll.. Do people prefer Dec snows or Morch snows. It’s black and white. Let’s see how it plays out December by a mile.... by March I’m ready for Morch and Torch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, Johnno said: December by a mile.... by March I’m ready for Morch and Torch I would be willing to bet that poll would be a landslide . 90%+ weighted Dec . Winter months are Dec- Feb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 17 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Metherb, my point is how do you average 5”? Is it from sight and you take into account all areas from sun to shade, or weenie measuring behind the shade of a spruce? That seems high. Not sure what you're trying to imply but I have 35+ years of experience observing the weather including courses at Lyndon and having been a coop observer. I follow the standard practice of taking multiple measurements including sunny and shaded measurements. I take my daily temperature readings in a Stevenson Screen about 50-75' from my house and while I'm walking to the station I drop the ruler in the snow and keep track of the measurements to the nearest inch per the coop standard. I then average those for the daily snow depth. I then average those numbers for the average depth over the winter. I then average every winter for an overall average depth. 5" is what the math comes out to for all those measurements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Damage In Tolland said: I would be willing to bet that poll would be a landslide . 90%+ weighted Dec . Winter months are Dec- Feb Let's run a poll here. 17 inch bomb in March or 2 inch snow otg Christmas morning. I can imagine with this group what the answer will be. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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