ORH_wxman Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 33 minutes ago, PaulyFromPlattsburgh said: I remember this one. Short range models killed it. SREF, RUC, RAP, HRRR especially! I remember we had a raging +NAO also! That was not a raging +NAO pattern....we actually had kind of a bootleg -NAO which helped out a bit. We had an ugly AK vortex during that, but the NAO was just enough to give us a few threat along with split flow out west which prevented a total PAC firehose torch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Just now, Ginx snewx said: I was just reading that thread and wondered where some went. Ate they alive? Like Allenson from Vt, how about that ice storm commander dude lol. Sankaty? So nice to have it preserved ,still choke up a little when I read a messenger post. Good stuff though I'm still bummed that eastern went off line. We had it online for many years after we migrated...maybe like 4-5 years. I had the 12/16/07 obs thread bookmarked because I loved watching all the totally surprised (and dumbfounded, lol) reactions when people woke up during that one. The link is still in my bookmarks....lol: http://www.easternuswx.com/bb/?/topic/150209-sne-obsdiscussion-for-1216-noreaster/page__st__1210 It obviously doesn't work now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 36 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: That thread is hilarious. I think you threw your laptop through your window when Kev posted this you keep his pics? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 hour ago, HIPPYVALLEY said: I haven’t looked back to 2008 and 2009 but this might be best December in Greenfield since we moved here in 2007. Almost certainly the snowiest Dec evah down this way. Better than 07 and 08 for sure and nothing since has compared. IIRC we got like 19" in the back to back storms in 08. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Bostonseminole said: you keep his pics? Nudies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Eric FisherVerified account @ericfisher 13h13 hours ago More It always seems to get mild leading up to Christmas in the U.S. It could be, perhaps, the trough is too tight It could be the polar vortex isn't screwed on just right Dec 21-24th during the 2000s shown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 minute ago, radarman said: Almost certainly the snowiest Dec evah down this way. Better than 07 and 08 for sure and nothing since has compared. IIRC we got like 19" in the back to back storms in 08. How much do you have so far? Not to be a nitpicker....but I'd bet that Dec 1945, 1947, 1969, 1970 all give this year a run for its money and likely a couple of them exceed this year. A couple of those were prob over 30" out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, Bostonseminole said: you keep his pics? In the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said: How much do you have so far? Not to be a nitpicker....but I'd bet that Dec 1945, 1947, 1969, 1970 all give this year a run for its money and likely a couple of them exceed this year. A couple of those were prob over 30" out there. 30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Nudies? It's tough when people dont read posts. I mean I actually mentioned the thread in my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, radarman said: 30" Killing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Maybe a rising PNA at the end per below? Negative NAO FTW. I have no idea where to find the EPS teleconnections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, radarman said: 30" Yeah that's def getting up there. I think 1969 might beat that though, and perhaps 1945. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 14 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: I'd bet that Dec 1945, 1947, 1969, 1970 all give this year a run for its money and likely a couple of them exceed this year. A couple of those were prob over 30" out there. just pulled the Amherst Coop data... For those Decembers you mention they report 18.8, 17.6, 24.2, and 26.6 respectively. Granted the Amherst Coop hasn't done quite as well as MBY this year, so that 1970 number might edge it out at present, or is close. (edit- always the possibility of missing data, but no indication thereof) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 As long as we’re reminiscing, this is right after the post SB win storm on 2/2/15. We still had a good amount of snow to go during that epic stretch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Still a lot of ice up there today 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, radarman said: just pulled the Amherst Coop data... For those Decembers you mention they report 18.8, 17.6, 24.2, and 26.6 respectively. Granted the Amherst Coop hasn't done quite as well as MBY this year, so that 1970 number might edge it out at present, or is close. (edit- always the possibility of missing data, but no indication thereof) Oh, I thought you were up the hill a bit from Amherst in Belchertown/Pelham area. So that would have been a higher threshold....30" in Amherst in the valley could def be a record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Just now, ORH_wxman said: Oh, I thought you were up the hill a bit from Amherst in Belchertown/Pelham area. So that would have been a higher threshold....30" in Amherst in the valley could def be a record. I'm at 540', but Belchertown rises sharply headed toward Pelham which is over 1k'. Climatologically speaking we behave a little more like the valley I'd say... Amherst also has some latitude on me, and as we know this area is often close to the pinger battlezone where a little bit helps (like on Tuesday for example). I'd say the extra 300' buys us maybe 5 inches more annual snow, and the longitude occasionally helps in coastals too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 17 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Still a lot of ice up there today Beautiful pics in the sunlight 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 FWIW, these are the only months on record over 30" in the Amherst Coop dataset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whineminster Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 this is great and all, but when do we snow next? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8611Blizz Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Since we are putting our orders for snow in make mine a double, no ice please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 15 minutes ago, radarman said: FWIW, these are the only months on record over 30" in the Amherst Coop dataset What did you get in the biggie back early month? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: What did you get in the biggie back early month? 24", which was really 7.5, 15.5, and an inch total in between and the day after. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Gfs now has the same small miller B that the Euro shows at 174 hours for New England Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Its a clipper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, Snow88 said: Gfs now has the same small miller B that the Euro shows at 174 hours for New England Long shot. Not much room for that to dig. Not exactly an ideal CONUS setup with a trough cut out in the SW either. But miracles do happen. No better day than Christmas. EDIT: more like 12/27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Just now, dryslot said: Its a clipper. Finally, someone said it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 That will end up a NNE deal . Like that one 2 Friday’s ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said: Finally, someone said it. Ants had a rough stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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