psuhoffman Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 33 minutes ago, C.A.P.E. said: Cunningham was rubberman, and smooth. Not faster lol. Mike Vick will tell you there has never been a faster NFL QB than Jackson. He is faster than most of the top tier receivers and running backs. He just “looked” faster the way he ran. Sleek like you said. Also the comparable speeds of the game are different. Lamar is definitely faster, but defenses were slower, especially linebackers and safeties, back then. So it’s hard to compare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Jackson became the second player in NFL history to have a perfect passer rating (158.3) in multiple games in a single season. Second time he has done it this season. He was 15-of-17 passing for 223 yards, 2 passing TDs and one rushing. He didn't play the 4th quarter, and one of his incompletions was a spike at the end of the first half. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, psuhoffman said: He just “looked” faster the way he ran. Sleek like you said. Also the comparable speeds of the game are different. Lamar is definitely faster, but defenses were slower, especially linebackers and safeties, back then. So it’s hard to compare. Yes he looked very smooth. Some of that was due to his tall, lanky frame. He was an elite athlete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Snow on TV alert. Panthers at Packers 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderdog Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 hour ago, psuhoffman said: Cunningham had his running skills. But when Cunningham would inevitably come up against a good disciplined defense in the playoffs that could contain that part of his game he couldn’t orchestrate the offense within a system well enough to win. A lot of that may have been the fault of crappy offensive coaching with the Eagles. If not for a choked kick he might have won a SB with the Vikings late in his career. We will find out if Lamar is better at that soon. He certainly has better coaching. I’ve loved Harbough since he was the Eagles teams coach way back. Agree with everything you stated. Lamar has the same "presence " on the field as Cunningham did but is bigger , stronger, and better coaches. Old Buddy relied too much on his defense. The missed FG was a shame. Minnesota and Randall deserved better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestrobjwa Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 2 hours ago, C.A.P.E. said: That Lamar Jackson TD run was a thing of beauty. Pretty confident in saying there has never been anything quite like that from an NFL QB. Sorry Steve Young and Mike Vick. Yeah I could watch that over and over...that along with all his other remarkable highlights! (and the call by Kevin Harland was great: "Ohhhhhhh he broke his ankles!!" Lolol) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestrobjwa Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 1 hour ago, psuhoffman said: He just “looked” faster the way he ran. Sleek like you said. Also the comparable speeds of the game are different. Lamar is definitely faster, but defenses were slower, especially linebackers and safeties, back then. So it’s hard to compare. Not to mention...Jackson has a certain shiftyness that Vick may not have even had. Of course Vick had the pure speed, but...LJ has this "twitch" where he can elude somebody right in front of him (and now today we see a new spin move, lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Where is Ji? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj2va Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, psuhoffman said: Where is Ji? Hopefully he stays away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj2va Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 3 hours ago, mappy said: Mr Map and I went over the summer. He had a work thing at Nemacolin so we made it an extended weekend getaway for my birthday. Did the tour and all, really great place, but was incredibly humid when we went (late June). I wouldn’t want to live in that house during the summer without central air. But still a great experience and glad we got to do it. We both said the same thing about the lack of AC....we could not imagine being there (or living there) in the summer. Such a neat house though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Just now, nj2va said: Hopefully he stays away. Nah, I like the guy. He's funny AF and he's never broken character once in the 13 years I've been on these forums... however.... too many people like being Ji themselves and collectively it becomes steaming pile. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dailylurker Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I'm stocked with firewood and ready for this cold front tomorrow night. Epstein didn't kill himself 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakkelWx Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Ji holding on to the Brazilian model for next week's HECS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 The biggest thing I see with Jackson is that he has an organization and a coach that have tailored their philosophy to match his skills. I’m mean, when is the last pro team you’ve seen run the option? im not a Ravens fan obviously but I really love to watch them run the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestrobjwa Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 5 hours ago, psuhoffman said: I don’t mind your posts one bit. I’m just a snarky wise arse. But...and don’t take this to be mean it’s just an observation and again you don’t bother me none, but you do seem slightly obsessed with KNOWING what will happen wrt weather and snowfall specifically. Don’t get me wrong we all try our best to predict but most of us acknowledge and accept the extreme unpredictability to long range (and medium for that matter) weather and we have fun with it. You seem to get really frustrated by it. That’s not going to be healthy or make you very happy in this hobby. I hope you don’t take that to be overly critical. I don’t mean it to be. We all have our quirks and eccentricities, and god knows I do plenty of stupid illogical things, just ask my wife she will give you a list of every one! No offense taken--because you're right: I am a little obsessed with knowing for whatever reason...(perhaps it's my overall impatience...It's kinda a quirk of mine that I tend to want to know what's happening and knowing exactly whether joy or disappointment is coming! Guess I'm still learning how to just prepare for more than one scenario, lol). And yet, it's my love of snow--and wanting to know when it was coming next--that drew me to this hobby more than the technicalities of the hobby itself (which I have ended up learning more about in the process!) But the more winters I go through with this forum, I'm beginning to see what you mean...it is indeed fluid and has a healthy dose of unpredictability. Yeah, I like to search for trends and patterns of things to try and see "the future" so to speak...but I can see how weather just doesn't work that way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 The biggest worry with Jackson last year was could he run the full offense. Well, he sure has. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Cam Newton was the next freak in the NFL...he's doing well I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Seems to me these guys get hurt in the pocket, trying to be the prototypical NFL QB. Happened with Vick and RG3. Not sure about Newton. Let him do his thing for as long as he can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Yeah man now that's a Minnesota weekend. SKOL!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobalt Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 9 hours ago, C.A.P.E. said: That Lamar Jackson TD run was a thing of beauty. Pretty confident in saying there has never been anything quite like that from an NFL QB. Sorry Steve Young and Mike Vick. I'm not sure that I can name a single big hit that Jackson has taken all season. I think he has more awareness than most if not all mobile QBs before him, and of course he's built much better to sustain being a mobile QB. It's a pretty great combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showmethesnow Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 9 hours ago, WxWatcher007 said: Go ahead and bun me, but I can't wait to get some real snow. This GB/CAR game is great with the snow falling. Was just checking over Tropical and it looks as if it is ready to light up and here you are talking about snow? Get your priorities straight. And you think watching football in the snow is great? Check a game out during a CAT 3/4. Now that is entertainment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Running qbs just don’t have super long careers. And defenses adjust. Once they take away the TE option for Jackson he will not do as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 hour ago, H2O said: Running qbs just don’t have super long careers. And defenses adjust. Once they take away the TE option for Jackson he will not do as well. Think if was that easy they would have already done it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 7 hours ago, leesburg 04 said: Yeah man now that's a Minnesota weekend. SKOL!! SKOL! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, WinterWxLuvr said: Think if was that easy they would have already done it. RG3 and Russell Wilson surprised the league in 2012. After that things changed. One QB didn't adapt, the other did and the other one is having a MVP season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 It's only gonna take one spin move and a 250 LB running full speed into his chest and the experiment ends. Personally I believe the kid has enough talent to adapt but you'd be a fool to think he can continue to run at the pace he currently does. Yeah yeah yeah he's really good at getting down and hasn't taken a flush hit yet...I hear you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 hours ago, H2O said: Running qbs just don’t have super long careers. And defenses adjust. Once they take away the TE option for Jackson he will not do as well. How will they take them away? They have 3 very good ones and they have multiple TEs on the field practically every play lol. They are essential in both the passing game and the running game. Wide receivers in this offense mostly block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 as long as Jackson keeps connecting with Andrews, I'm cool with it. Helps my fantasy team out. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Jackson has a knack for getting sideways and avoiding big hits, plus he does things like he did on that TD run yesterday. He is 22. Will he still be doing this at 28? Not to the same degree is my guess. But as we have seen, he can stand in the pocket and go through his progressions and throw accurately. The offense is engineered to make the most of his talent right now, and part of that is his youth. That can be modified going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 14 minutes ago, C.A.P.E. said: How will they take them away? They have 3 very good ones and they have multiple TEs on the field practically every play lol. They are essential in both the passing game and the running game. Wide receivers in this offense mostly block. Thats for a defense to figure out. Covering with DBs or safeties will change things. I'm just saying that over time you develop enough game film for a defense to study and find tendencies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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