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November 2019 discussion


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5 minutes ago, moneypitmike said:

Per the forecast, it seems early for the wind--light as it is--to be backing around.  It appears that might be the case though.  In other news, if you don't look too closely, the fog gives the appearance of snow.  Faux weather.

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Pretty calm now. Temp may spike a bit near and after fropa before tanking.

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1 hour ago, Damage In Tolland said:

I cant believe places actually do that. I had never seen that before. I bet they lose quite a bit of tourism money from that because a lot of people feel the same way you and I do about it 

Pretty sure they make up for the lost tourism dollars with the lack of lawsuits from people slipping on slippery sidewalks. 

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1 minute ago, dryslot said:

25.7°F, Its an ice skating rink out there this morning.

Just under 4" of snow/sleet/ice/crap here.  The roads are were pretty much left alone in anticipation of the mixed bag o'crap and that seems to have worked ok as they weren't glazed.  Glad I put my winters on back in October when my summer tires were shot.  A bit earlier than I would prefer but at least I was ready.

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VT totals so far

VERMONT

...ADDISON COUNTY...
   RIPTON                 3.0   607 AM 11/12  BROADCAST MEDIA         

...CALEDONIA COUNTY...
   2 N LYNDONVILLE        3.2   645 AM 11/12  COCORAHS                
   4 WSW GROTON           3.0   100 AM 11/12  COCORAHS                

...CHITTENDEN COUNTY...
   COLCHESTER             5.8   556 AM 11/12  BROADCAST MEDIA         
   1 NE SOUTH BURLINGTO   5.7   746 AM 11/12  NWS OFFICE              
   MILTON                 5.6   706 AM 11/12  PUBLIC                  
   WINOOSKI               5.5   603 AM 11/12  PUBLIC                  
   JERICHO CENTER         5.0   610 AM 11/12  PUBLIC                  
   1 E NASHVILLE          4.4   645 AM 11/12  CO-OP OBSERVER          
   2 NW WESTFORD          4.3   746 AM 11/12  NWS EMPLOYEE            

...ESSEX COUNTY...
   2 NNW LUNENBURG        3.8   530 AM 11/12  COCORAHS                

...FRANKLIN COUNTY...
   2 NNE ST. ALBANS       8.3   626 AM 11/12  PUBLIC                  
   SWANTON                8.0   607 AM 11/12  BROADCAST MEDIA         
   FAIRFIELD              5.8   556 AM 11/12  BROADCAST MEDIA         

...GRAND ISLE COUNTY...
   ISLE LA MOTTE          6.0   641 AM 11/12  BROADCAST MEDIA         
   SOUTH HERO             4.5   557 AM 11/12  BROADCAST MEDIA         

...LAMOILLE COUNTY...
   JOHNSON                5.0   619 AM 11/12  PUBLIC                  

...ORANGE COUNTY...
   3 SW BRAINTREE         4.5   530 AM 11/12  COCORAHS                
   1.5 E CORINTH CORNER   2.6   655 AM 11/12  CO-OP OBSERVER          
   POST MILLS             1.0   631 AM 11/12  PUBLIC                  

...ORLEANS COUNTY...
   1.2 NE NEWPORT         5.9   700 AM 11/12  CO-OP OBSERVER          
   1 WNW WESTFIELD        5.0   630 AM 11/12  COCORAHS                
   3 ENE BARTON           3.9   700 AM 11/12  COCORAHS                

...WASHINGTON COUNTY...
   2 SE WAITSFIELD        5.0   700 AM 11/12  COCORAHS                
   1.7 SE WAITSFIELD      5.0   700 AM 11/12  CO-OP OBSERVER          
   1 SW EAST BARRE        4.5   639 AM 11/12  NWS EMPLOYEE            
   2 N CALAIS             4.0   633 AM 11/12  PUBLIC                  
   1.6 W WORCESTER        3.6   700 AM 11/12  CO-OP OBSERVER          
   WATERBURY CENTER       3.5   726 AM 11/12  TRAINED SPOTTER         
   1 N CABOT              3.0   743 AM 11/12  PUBLIC                  

...WINDSOR COUNTY...
   3 N POMFRET            1.5   700 AM 11/12  COCORAHS                
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22 minutes ago, mreaves said:

Pretty sure they make up for the lost tourism dollars with the lack of lawsuits from people slipping on slippery sidewalks. 

That sounds weird to me that they might actually lose a lawsuit because someone claimed they slipped on snow at a ski resort. 

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8 minutes ago, DotRat_Wx said:

Never have faith in the anafrontal. 

It doesn't make sense. If all the precip is based off a front, and that boundary moves through, what is left as a trigger? (talking about backside snow)

Anafrontal is post  frontal. That means you have mid level waa or something to help force frontogenesis in the mid levels behind the surface cold front. You will have that, but best chance may be near cape. You can see on radar down south with the bowing of precip in western NC and VA. That is progged to slide near and just east of us. 

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1 hour ago, CoastalWx said:

EPS with a nice spike in the EPO/PNA domain last night too. 

Kinda going back to what I mentioned yesterday and I saw your comment regarding it being chaotic...that seems extremely likely and it's going to make it difficult to address the upcoming pattern. It does look like the EPO, PNA, NAO/AO all really fluctuate quite a bit...perhaps that's a good thing though :)

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37 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

That sounds weird to me that they might actually lose a lawsuit because someone claimed they slipped on snow at a ski resort. 

The American dream.  What a world we live in.  Just like you’d assume you can’t lose a lawsuit because someone ordered hot coffee that ended up being too hot and burnt them.  

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9 hours ago, The 4 Seasons said:

 

I really think winter storm warnings and advisories should be based on impact and not just an exact snowfall criteria measured on a white reflective surface cleared every six hours perfectly placed. Even with general forecast from the private sector or news stations, when there is a substanial difference i think there should be two maps, one for roads/sidewalks/highways and one for grass/decks/roofs/wood etc. The former is what has the real impact, not the latter. Or they can at least mention and emphasize the difference in accumulation on different surfaces.

 

Agreed ... Quantum Field theorists can contemplate the IQ of God, yet ... "Meteorologism" has no f'n clue how to assess whether 6" on a cold measuring board is going to mean the same thing on a sidewalk and street that day.  

It's a matter of priorities like everything, I suppose.  But geez, one might think time and energy would be pragmatically expended polishing those definitions and applications .. considering snow's efficacy has a direct physical/environmental impact. 

Buuut, considering the societal endowment for capital ambition is a total roll-up value in the trillions, while babies are dying from diseases that have millions devoted to researching cures, perhaps it's understandable from this particular species.   We deserve our plight ... this climate change shit is going to cause at minimum a limited scale apocalypse - anyone that doesn't know or suspect that is either in denial or incredible f'ing stupid and [ most likely ] default line-toeing and contributing hugely to making that happen.  Which ... is 97 percent of all people.   

 

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