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Here comes winter -- October 28-November 1 Snowstorm Potential


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1 hour ago, Chicago Storm said:

That axis of snow last night and this morning from W IL into N IL ended up much more narrow than pretty much any model showed, even the NAM's, which usually do a fairly good job with banding. All guidance did a terrible job on amounts, and even QPF as well.

Based on reports, it looks like the main axis was ~15mile wide with 1-3.5", and a DAB surrounding that.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Definitely was modeled terribly. Our local met posted this

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Mentioned this already but you can see some lake enhancement showing up on the simulated reflectivity products on the western shores of LM tomorrow, which makes sense given sufficient delta T.  With that of course brings the concern about too much marine influence, but the flow is actually sheared a bit so that as surface winds start turning more N/NNW, the 925 mb flow is still more out of the NNE.  There could be a window to get some enhancement without the full blast effects of the marine influence but overall it shouldn't add on a lot to totals.

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A few flakes coming down at the moment, mixed with some drizzle.  Looks like all things are go for a solid advisory criteria event.  Euro bumped us up to close to 1/2" of precip.  GFS and NAMs came back to Earth a bit, after showing 6-9" for several runs.  Looking like a nice 4-5" type of event.  Good chance we won't see anything like this again on Halloween.

Gonna be pretty sweet watching game 7 of the World Series with snow ripping outside.

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Re:  Chicago, if you look at the GFS surface maps, it has lower pressures extending farther west than other models.  This keeps the winds onshore longer and then once winds turn offshore, it is holding on to an exaggerated warm bubble over the city.  After winds are offshore, it is hard to figure out why the city would be staying several degrees warmer than even the immediate suburbs when not talking about a radiational cooling situation.  

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UPDATE...
Issued at 811 PM CDT Wed Oct 30 2019

No major changes to going forecast for the overnight hours, though
some concerns persist. Showers have developed west of the Illinois
River Valley this evening and will continue to spread east. Precip
has already transitioned over to snow from Galesburg through Macomb
and should see areas west of the Illinois River Valley transition
over by around midnight. Trends will have to be monitored overnight
with respect to the depth of the saturated layer. Main concern is
that several models indicate a narrow mid level dry slot will punch
across the Illinois River Valley overnight, resulting in loss of ice
nuclei at times, particularly between 06-12Z tonight. This would
transition precip back to liquid drizzle and cut down on snow
amounts. As is typical with mixed precip scenarios, it`s the
difference of only a degree or two which doesn`t lend much in the
way of confidence to make large scale changes to the forecast at
this time. Regardless of how precip pans out overnight, still
appears the best snow production will occur from the predawn hours
through the morning Thursday.
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