IWXwx Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 Just now, Hoosier said: ORD has 8.4". I think you are looking at only the November total but ORD also had the late October storm. You're right. I forgot about that. I was only looking at November. So if they're at 8.4", double digits by the end of the month is a no-brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 On 12/3/2019 at 12:58 PM, IWXwx said: When there are only nine and a half hours of daylight, the odds are already against us for daytime snow. Good point lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis1729 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 4 hours ago, beavis1729 said: Serious question for a die hard winter guy like yourself. Which would you rather have, the type of regime we've been in lately or something really torchy like a run of 10-15+ above average? Have to pick one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis1729 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Hoosier said: Serious question for a die hard winter guy like yourself. Which would you rather have, the type of regime we've been in lately or something really torchy like a run of 10-15+ above average? Have to pick one. Ugh...if I had to pick one, it would be the current regime, because it’s at least a bit more of a wintry feel than 10-15+ above average temps. More wintry is always better...even if we are talking a score of 5 out of 100 vs. 2 out of 100. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 15 minutes ago, beavis1729 said: Ugh...if I had to pick one, it would be the current regime, because it’s at least a bit more of a wintry feel than 10-15+ above average temps. More wintry is always better...even if we are talking a score of 5 out of 100 vs. 2 out of 100. Had a feeling you might say something like that, but wasn't sure. There are definitely people who are in the camp of "if it's not going to snow it might as well torch" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 8 hours ago, Hoosier said: Had a feeling you might say something like that, but wasn't sure. There are definitely people who are in the camp of "if it's not going to snow it might as well torch" I am with beavis. At least it's been chilly outside. We had off and on flakes throughout the week. It's annoying that we were buried in beautiful deep snow in mid November and have nothing on the ground in early December, but but give me cold and gray any day over torch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis1729 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 10 hours ago, Hoosier said: Had a feeling you might say something like that, but wasn't sure. There are definitely people who are in the camp of "if it's not going to snow it might as well torch" Another “good” thing about the current regime is that snowpack is building north of about 44N. If we were torching, we’d lose that snowpack too...which would make a bad situation even worse. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWaves Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 And I'll add that this week's chill should put some more ice on ponds, and take more warmth out of the soils. All good things as we step down into what hopefully will be a snowier back half of the month, despite the week 3&4 outlook NOAA's clinging to attm. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 December has sort of developed a reputation for sucking, or at least not being as good as other winter months. Is there any truth to that? Well, here are composite temperature maps of the last 20 Decembers, Januaries and Februaries. 1999-2018 was used for December since December 2019 is obviously ongoing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWaves Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 While those maps tell the temps part of the story, I'm more concerned about snowfall (or lack of it). The past (6) Decembers here have such a wide swing in totals, yet when averaged equal 12.96" per year. My long-term Dec avg? 13.0" Snow wise, the month has become bi-polar to the extreme lately with as little as 1.2" in 2014 to 27.6" three years later. I'm not sure there's any such thing as a "normal" December any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Yeah it would've been interesting to do composite snowfall maps for each of those months, but not sure how to do that. Despite the December temp composite running on the warm side (around/over 1F warmer than 1981-2010 averages in much of the Midwest for a 20 year composite is actually kinda noteworthy), I suspect a December snow composite over the same period would be closer to if not a bit snowier than average in some areas as there has been a wildly snowy December or two... 2000 immediately comes to mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Hoosier said: Yeah it would've been interesting to do composite snowfall maps for each of those months, but not sure how to do that. Despite the December temp composite running on the warm side (around/over 1F warmer than 1981-2010 averages in much of the Midwest for a 20 year composite is actually kinda noteworthy), I suspect a December snow composite over the same period would be closer to if not a bit snowier than average in some areas as there has been a wildly snowy December or two... 2000 immediately comes to mind. Not surprising since we've seen a lot of "snowless" Decembers over the past 20 years. I'm sure years like 2018, 2015, 2011 and 2006 come to mind. However, when you consider some of the more snowier Decembers, a majority of them were La Nina's (2000, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2016 and 2017). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 The storm early next week is looking like a nuisance for some of us and there's legit nothing else between now and Christmas either. I have a feeling this thread will become quite active in the coming days, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 January is gonna be rockin'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 If split flow is the theme for this winter then we can just jet right to April. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cary67 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Stebo said: If split flow is the theme for this winter then we can just jet right to April. Make that mid May. Aprils still suck especially last year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Stebo said: If split flow is the theme for this winter then we can just jet right to April. I reckon, split flows are more common in Nino's. Then again, shit Decembers have been a common thing in recent years. What matters is Jan-Mar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Stebo said: If split flow is the theme for this winter then we can just jet right to April. We'll always have October/November. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Stebo said: If split flow is the theme for this winter then we can just jet right to April. where we can have split flow in April to maximize suffering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 43 minutes ago, hlcater said: where we can have split flow in April to maximize suffering. Why must you put this evil upon this forum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 *clears throat* So after this upcoming storm, almost no location north of I-70 (and maybe even a little south of there) will have less snow than me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackstraw Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 6 hours ago, Hoosier said: *clears throat* So after this upcoming storm, almost no location north of I-70 (and maybe even a little south of there) will have less snow than me. Could pinger town finally have it's it's vengeance? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 ZZZZZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gino27 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Another classic Central Ohio bust. These storms are getting creative on screwing us over nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowtie` Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Stebo said: ZZZZZ Please take my two to five. I do not want it. Shove that whole line north if you can. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Days start getting longer in 5 days lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimillman Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 not worth even looking until after Christmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 13 minutes ago, Gino27 said: Another classic Central Ohio bust. These storms are getting creative on screwing us over nowadays. Columbus climo is s**t to begin with tho. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 24 minutes ago, Stebo said: ZZZZZ The total accumulated precip map looks the same too. Legit not even a clipper or a fantasy 360 hr storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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