weathafella Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 54 minutes ago, powderfreak said: I’d go crazy living most places after Stowe lol. I still don’t think it robs that much, I lived it and still watch it closely. Of course there are events it is but the vast majority of ALB snowstorms revolve around mid-level banding which doesn’t give a shit about topography. Sure the hills around may average 70” instead of 62”, but it’s really not that big of a deal from what i saw. You would notice the preservation much more than any downsloping as the CAD isn’t there at all. It’s really all mid-level banding and ALB does well in those big interior storms and I can think of at least a handful of storms since 2002 where ALB local area jackpotted from being the pivot point. I’m not trying to sell it as a snow haven, but I just don’t think you’d notice downsloping as much as you think. The ones that do are the real stalled out easterly flow events like Dec 1992. Pretty much all other coastal events are just mid-level banding. SWFE also don’t really downslope from what I saw. It was pretty much sustained strong easterly flow. As soon as it goes NE though it’s all good. You just need that pivot like this one from 2014 that dropped 20-30” over the ALB area. A few other recent close calls: You know I can take sne big events and wipe the floor with Albany in terms of single storm totals. Albany certainly snows more and holds onto it but big storms to me are more exciting I guess. I may lose it in 3 days but I love the concept of 18+ and BOS has had a ridiculous number of those over the past 20 years. Still seriously considering a move to VT soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 Look how sneaky NW and even nrn NJ can be near 287 with those events. Might not jack, but they do better than BOS when longitude is involved. 12/29/00 was a hard lesson in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, weathafella said: You know I can take sne big events and wipe the floor with Albany in terms of single storm totals. Albany certainly snows more and holds onto it but big storms to me are more exciting I guess. I may lose it in 3 days but I love the concept of 18+ and BOS has had a ridiculous number of those over the past 20 years. Still seriously considering a move to VT soon Don't move to S VT, if you drew a triangle from Pittsfield MA to Stratton and over to the Monadnocks it has been, relatively speaking, wrt other parts of NE, a snow desert the past 10-15 years. When we moved to Greenfield in 2007 I was so excited to be close to the N Berkshires and ski areas like Mt Snow and Stratton. Let's just say my expectations have been tempered considerably. I don't really care if it snows imby as long as I can drive an hour to fresh tracks but those days have been a bit more limited than I would have imagined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, weathafella said: You know I can take sne big events and wipe the floor with Albany in terms of single storm totals. Albany certainly snows more and holds onto it but big storms to me are more exciting I guess. I may lose it in 3 days but I love the concept of 18+ and BOS has had a ridiculous number of those over the past 20 years. Still seriously considering a move to VT soon Ha again I wasn’t comparing ALB to big SNE totals (but they’ve got you beat with March 1888 ) but they do get their 18+ storms. I guess it was just your initial post that made it seem like ALB averaged 39” or something terrible like that. It’s not a winter Mecca but it snows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Ha again I wasn’t comparing ALB to big SNE totals (but they’ve got you beat with March 1888 ) but they do get their 18+ storms. I guess it was just your initial post that made it seem like ALB averaged 39” or something terrible like that. It’s not a winter Mecca but it snows. The snow squall aspect is kind of cool. They definitely get the Mohawk Valley thing going. Not sure the name of the mtns NW of Saratoga, but those things light up on SW winds where you get the WAA, but occurring in a polar airmass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, HIPPYVALLEY said: Don't move to S VT, if you drew a triangle from Pittsfield MA to Stratton and over to the Monadnocks it has been, relatively speaking, wrt other parts of NE, a snow desert the past 10-15 years. When we moved to Greenfield in 2007 I was so excited to be close to the N Berkshires and ski areas like Mt Snow and Stratton. Let's just say my expectations have been tempered considerably. I don't really care if it snows imby as long as I can drive an hour to fresh tracks but those days have been a bit more limited than I would have imagined. Mitch disagrees. Snow from Oct to May with max pack of 5 feet in his yard haha. But I actually think your area has been screwed more than most. Even SVT has had some sick deform bands in recent years. I do think ALB CWA up into VT has had better luck than your area recently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: The snow squall aspect is kind of cool. They definitely get the Mohawk Valley thing going. Not sure the name of the mtns NW of Saratoga, but those things light up on SW winds where you get the WAA, but occurring in a polar airmass. Yeah and the models always light that area up on SW flow....I think it’s just the southern slope of the Adirondack uplift. The other thing I used to love at ALB was the Hundson/Mohawk Convergence at the end of a nor’easter. Wind goes northerly and converges right over ALB area where the two big rivers merge and just downwind.... it’s very similar to the Champlain Valley Convergence but on a less extreme level. But it’s present enough to have studies published on it...grab an extra 2-4” on backend of a storm. Cool but still wouldn’t be my first choice for a snow location... but if forced to live there it does snow lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backedgeapproaching Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 19 minutes ago, HIPPYVALLEY said: Don't move to S VT, if you drew a triangle from Pittsfield MA to Stratton and over to the Monadnocks it has been, relatively speaking, wrt other parts of NE, a snow desert the past 10-15 years. When we moved to Greenfield in 2007 I was so excited to be close to the N Berkshires and ski areas like Mt Snow and Stratton. Let's just say my expectations have been tempered considerably. I don't really care if it snows imby as long as I can drive an hour to fresh tracks but those days have been a bit more limited than I would have imagined. Savoy has been calling your name for a number of years it seems...even if they are in your Bermuda snow triangle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 41 minutes ago, backedgeapproaching said: Savoy has been calling your name for a number of years it seems...even if they are in your Bermuda snow triangle Am I losing my mind or did Mt Snow and some other SVT mtns have one of their snowiest winters ever within the past few winters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 minute ago, powderfreak said: Am I losing my mind or did Mt Snow and some other SVT mtns have one of their snowiest winters ever within the past few winters? Mt Snow got nailed several times over the past 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backedgeapproaching Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 21 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Am I losing my mind or did Mt Snow and some other SVT mtns have one of their snowiest winters ever within the past few winters? 17-18 was the snowiest winter ever here locally in the valley...I had about 140" and the Cocorahs guy at 1800' near me in Landgrove had about 200". Peru VT COOP was top 5 I think. Past 3 winters solidly above average. Of course 15-16 was all time least snowiest..by a good margin, especially at elevation spots. So some stinkers too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 36 minutes ago, backedgeapproaching said: 17-18 was the snowiest winter ever here locally in the valley...I had about 140" and the Cocorahs guy at 1800' near me in Landgrove had about 200". Peru VT COOP was top 5 I think. Past 3 winters solidly above average. Of course 15-16 was all time least snowiest..by a good margin, especially at elevation spots. So some stinkers too. Yeah that's what I had thought. It happens when there's big local variation, but it's interesting to see Hippy's take that it's been a disappointment given how just north has seen a near record season recently. 140" at your place is some serious snow. Reminds me of 2010-2011 up here that had 160" here with 200" at some lower elevation spots like J.Spin and Underhill. I don't think a lot of folks understand the frequency and amounts that lead up to 140-150"+ seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 ORH At +0.3F +0.31” Pretty much normal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdxken Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: ORH At +0.3F +0.31” Pretty much normal AWT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 From Ralph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Biggest difference betwen Troy NY and ORH is going to be snow retention. It's a lot worse in the Hudson valley. Theyll get more smaller snowfalls too like 1-2" from some squalls and windex stuff than you see in ORH. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Curious. George 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 15 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: Biggest difference betwen Troy NY and ORH is going to be snow retention. It's a lot worse in the Hudson valley. Theyll get more smaller snowfalls too like 1-2" from some squalls and windex stuff than you see in ORH. Thanks, the retention is what you’d notice the most between the two locations. Not necessarily the total seasonal snow amounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 6 hours ago, ORH_wxman said: Biggest difference betwen Troy NY and ORH is going to be snow retention. It's a lot worse in the Hudson valley. Theyll get more smaller snowfalls too like 1-2" from some squalls and windex stuff than you see in ORH. Thanks. it sounds like the snowfall differences between Troy and Bangor aren't too different from each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 51.8° This is our torch day right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 minute ago, dendrite said: 51.8° This is our torch day right? Fake cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: Fake cold. fake torch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, moneypitmike said: fake torch. Don't worry...some day 6-10 days away and beyond will be a torch. The hammers coming down. 50° here this morning. Heck of a way to run a torch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanks45 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 50.7 this morning, early fall continues in August.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 28 minutes ago, Spanks45 said: 50.7 this morning, early fall continues in August.... I have several maples with orange in their crowns. Very early for that here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Just now, Hoth said: I have several maples with orange in their crowns. Very early for that here. As do I over this way, it’s the earliest I’ve ever seen that, It’s also the earliest I seen the poison ivy flip to red here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 55F. Refreshing. First freeze can’t get here soon enough to wack the EEE loaded squitos! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 The yore of all yores toward d9-10 after models pass Dori to our east. Obvi lots of caveats with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 minute ago, dendrite said: The yore of all yores toward d9-10 after models pass Dori to our east. Obvi lots of caveats with that. Like is it 2-4" or 6-10"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: Like is it 2-4" or 6-10"? Lower sun angle by then bro. Take 'em up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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