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Climate change deniers are frantically trying to deflect attention from the climate change link to Hurricane Helene. The link was highlighted in, among other places, a post by German climate scientist Stefan Rahmstorf and a CNN interview with U.S. climate scientist Michael Mann.

In fact, the latest literature links tropical cyclone rapid intensification to climate change. One paper (Bhatia et al., 2022) declares, "In multiple basins and the global dataset, we detect a significant increase in intensification rates with a positive contribution from anthropogenic forcing."

Climate change is also leading to increased precipitation from tropical cyclones. One recent paper (Shi et al., 2024) noted that precipitation could increase over city-sized areas by about 18% for every 1°C warming due to complex processes.

Attribution studies have also confirmed the findings of the literature. Examples include:

Hurricane Harvey (2017)
Typhoon Gaemi (2024)

The noisy effort by climate change deniers to exploit Helene for disinformation purposes should be ignored. First, they have never published any research on tropical cyclones and climate change. Second, a number of them have been fact checked by AFP for posting misleading or inaccurate information (some multiple times).

The literature and attribution studies tell the actual story. Climate change is impacting tropical cyclone precipitation and rapid intensification.

 

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8 hours ago, donsutherland1 said:

Climate change deniers are frantically trying to deflect attention from the climate change link to Hurricane Helene. The link was highlighted in, among other places, a post by German climate scientist Stefan Rahmstorf and a CNN interview with U.S. climate scientist Michael Mann.

In fact, the latest literature links tropical cyclone rapid intensification to climate change. One paper (Bhatia et al., 2022) declares, "In multiple basins and the global dataset, we detect a significant increase in intensification rates with a positive contribution from anthropogenic forcing."

Climate change is also leading to increased precipitation from tropical cyclones. One recent paper (Shi et al., 2024) noted that precipitation could increase over city-sized areas by about 18% for every 1°C warming due to complex processes.

Attribution studies have also confirmed the findings of the literature. Examples include:

Hurricane Harvey (2017)
Typhoon Gaemi (2024)

The noisy effort by climate change deniers to exploit Helene for disinformation purposes should be ignored. First, they have never published any research on tropical cyclones and climate change. Second, a number of them have been fact checked by AFP for posting misleading or inaccurate information (some multiple times).

The literature and attribution studies tell the actual story. Climate change is impacting tropical cyclone precipitation and rapid intensification.

 

it's not a critique in any way ...more like reminder I suppose. But the increased deposition results are being observed everywhere.   Obviously the above is was speaking to tropics so its just adding.

Not directing this at you, Don - general read... but the atmospheric capacity to hold WV is increasing as a wholesale integral ( of course it has to be because cc is global condition). in short, warm air holds more wv; thus where ever it is raining ( snowing, sleeting or shitting ...) there's simply more water mass available to the machinery that is making it rain. 

Drier dynamic storms are becoming more rare.    Clippers in the winter are snowing more for example - a classic dry dynamics system type.   Mere thunderstorms are headlining for submerging a non-suspecting city.   etc  

hurricanes a tougher parse outs because a rain bomb tc in 1976 can do a 40" job just as well.   i think there's a fascinating study going on about why these ri's keep waiting to be within 300 miles of a coast before they happen.  weird

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3 hours ago, Typhoon Tip said:

it's not a critique in any way ...more like reminder I suppose. But the increased deposition results are being observed everywhere.   Obviously the above is was speaking to tropics so its just adding.

Not directing this at you, Don - general read... but the atmospheric capacity to hold WV is increasing as a wholesale integral ( of course it has to be because cc is global condition). in short, warm air holds more wv; thus where ever it is raining ( snowing, sleeting or shitting ...) there's simply more water mass available to the machinery that is making it rain. 

Drier dynamic storms are becoming more rare.    Clippers in the winter are snowing more for example - a classic dry dynamics system type.   Mere thunderstorms are headlining for submerging a non-suspecting city.   etc  

hurricanes a tougher parse outs because a rain bomb tc in 1976 can do a 40" job just as well.   i think there's a fascinating study going on about why these ri's keep waiting to be within 300 miles of a coast before they happen.  weird

Yes, the warming atmosphere is holding more water vapor. I believe Ben Noll posted that the atmosphere ahead of Helene had record PWAT values, which isn't surprising given the ongoing marine heatwave in the Gulf of Mexico. It was interesting to see that the recent study on TC precipitation amounts found that they exceed what might be expected from the CC equation. Then again, daily and monthly heat extremes are increasing above the rate of overall warming.

Research regarding TCs continues. It will be fascinating to see what is published in the years ahead.

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Phoenix is in the midst of an unprecedented late-season heatwave that saw the city reach a September (and August-tying) monthly record of 117° on September 28th and an October monthly record of 113° (old monthly mark: 107°) on October 1st. The seven-day September 25-October 1 period has had an average high temperature of 112.3° (old September 25-October 1 mark: 104.9°). That period has also seen six 110° or above high temperatures and five 113° or above temperatures. Prior to this heatwave, Phoenix had never seen a 110° or above temperature after September 19th and a 113° or above temperature after September 10th. Records go back to August 1895.

The extraordinary heat, which has also seen Indio, CA and Palm Springs tie the national October record of 117° has brought out a torrent of climate change deniers seeking to dismiss what is taking place. Each has revealed climate illiteracy in their wide-ranging efforts to dismiss what is taking place.

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Key Points:

1. The discussion has concerned Phoenix's climate record, which goes back to August 1895. References to 1367 and regional temperatures millions of years ago before the city even existed are irrelevant. Globally, the paleoclimate record shows that 2023-level temperatures were the warmest in 125,000 years. Phoenix was not experiencing the kind of heatwaves like the current one during colder global periods within its climate record. It is all but certain statistically that had instruments existed and temperatures been recorded in 1367, Phoenix would not have seen a late-season heatwave anywhere close to the current one.

2. Urban Heat Island (UHI) is real. However, its impacts are greatest at night. Moreover, even small towns e.g., Tacna, AZ (2024 population: 511) have been experiencing an unprecedented late-season heatwave. Moreover, USCRN sites in Arizona have also been experiencing notable warming. UHI cannot solely or largely explain the Phoenix's warming, much less its current heatwave. Rapid attribution by Climate Central revealed that, for example, yesterday's high temperatures in the Phoenix area were made at least 5 times as likely as due to climate change.

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A World Weather Attribution study of concurrent European, Asian, and Mexico/U.S. heatwaves (including in the Phoenix area) during July 2023 revealed that the heatwave was "virtually impossible" without climate change and about 2°C (3.6°F) warmer due to climate change.

The individual suggesting that UHI fully explains Phoenix's heat has been fact checked for posting misleading or incorrect information three times by AFP.

3. Although the desert is hot, there are climate records. The current heatwave is far above what is normal for this time of year. In Phoenix, the October 1 high temperature was 18° above the normal value for the date.

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4. Bastardi has already been fact checked by AFP on his claims regarding volcanoes. Human emissions are driving rising atmospheric CO2. Rising atmospheric greenhouse gases, including CO2, are driving the ongoing warming. In its Sixth Assessment Report, the IPCC explained:

Human activities, principally through emissions of greenhouse gases, have unequivocally caused global warming, with global surface temperature reaching 1.1°C above 1850-1900
in 2011-2020. Global greenhouse gas emissions have continued to increase, with unequal historical and ongoing contributions arising from unsustainable energy use, land use and
land-use change, lifestyles and patterns of consumption and production across regions, between and within countries, and among individuals (high confidence).

5. Numerous drivers impact climate. A recent study covering 485 million years revealed, "CO2 is the dominant control on Phanerozoic climate."

Conclusion:

Phoenix is experiencing an unprecedented late-season heatwave. Climate change has increased the likelihood and intensity of such a heatwave. Those seeking information should look to credible sources of weather and climate information, not Social Media noisemakers who have little or no understanding of Phoenix's climate or climate change or who seek to mislead on climate/climate change.

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Not just Phoenix, but the entire western United States. I don't know if there's one place that "won" more from climate change than San Diego, California.

Used to be a miserably cold place with fewer days at or above 70F than Fairbanks, Alaska receives these days.

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Now almost the entire year sees comfortable temperatures.

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2 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said:

Not just Phoenix, but the entire western United States. I don't know if there's one place that "won" more from climate change than San Diego, California.

Used to be a miserably cold place with fewer days at or above 70F than Fairbanks, Alaska receives these days.

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Now almost the entire year sees comfortable temperatures.

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Makes you wonder how much more heat the oceans can hold off the coast of California before they start to lose and we see tropical cyclones and horrific flooding. I think the conventional wisdom is that can't happen, but I can't help but look at these numbers and think something else is going on here and there must be more oceanic heating occurring than they are admitting to.

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4 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said:

Makes you wonder how much more heat the oceans can hold off the coast of California before they start to lose and we see tropical cyclones and horrific flooding.

One is already witnessing the impact of climate change (warming oceans) on precipitation from atmospheric rivers in California. Precipitation amounts and intensity will continue to increase in a warming climate.

https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/sciadv.aba1323

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Here's a good summary of what is known about climate change impacts on precipitation in hurricanes and Helene. Wasn't aware that precipitation in hurricanes may rise even faster than extreme precipitation in general, which is roughly 7% increase per 1C warming. Early estimates of Helen's CC enhancement (below) are generally consistent with the science summarized in the blog. There will be more to come on Helene though.

https://www.theclimatebrink.com/p/climate-change-made-helenes-rainfall

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6 hours ago, chubbs said:

Here's a good summary of what is known about climate change impacts on precipitation in hurricanes and Helene. Wasn't aware that precipitation in hurricanes may rise even faster than extreme precipitation in general, which is roughly 7% increase per 1C warming. Early estimates of Helen's CC enhancement (below) are generally consistent with the science summarized in the blog. There will be more to come on Helene though.

https://www.theclimatebrink.com/p/climate-change-made-helenes-rainfall

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I'm actually not surprised by this development. Daily/monthly temperature extremes recorded in various parts of the world exceed the amount of overall warming that has occurred. It seems that on shorter timeframes, there are factors or combinations of variables that amplify what one would expect from the warming and, in this case, increase in atmospheric water vapor. There has been periodic discussion of a non-linear response in extremes. This is probably one area where more research is needed.

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Hurricane Milton is the latest tropical cyclone to undergo rapid intensification (RI). It has intensified at among the fastest rates on record.

In response, as happened with Hurricane Helene, the climate change denial community will all but certainly try to dismiss the climate change link through a deluge of logical fallacies and disinformation. Climate denial arguments could suggest or imply that the occurrence of past hurricanes precludes a climate link, past rapid intensification cases preclude a climate link, a direct hit in the Tampa Bay area in 1848 means that climate change could not have contributed to a similar outcome, tropical cyclones are synoptic events therefore climate change or CO2 isn't involved, or that there is no trend in RI cases (using "cherry-picked" timeframes), etc.

One should ignore the Social Media noise toward that end and obtain their information from credible sources. Those making the arguments have motivated bias, are uninformed, are unable to synthesize multiple data points to reach informed judgments (how climate change can impact tropical cyclones through marine heatwaves, greater atmospheric moisture, etc).

Findings:

As long-term variations in RI are potentially influenced by large-scale circulation and global ocean conditions, the effects of internal climate variability and global ocean warming were investigated. The internal climate variability was assessed using climate indices such as El Niño–Southern Oscillation (ENSO) and Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO), while the effects of global warming were estimated using the trend of global mean sea surface temperature (SST) between 60 °S and 75 °N. The impacts of these metrics were eliminated by linearly regressing the time series of the RI onto the climate indices. Marginal differences were found when the Niño3 index was removed, and the amplitude of RI landward variation... maintained at 0.4 ± 0.2/decade/1000 km. This indicates that the impacts of ENSO on these long-term landward variations are negligible, although it may have a substantial role in inter-annual variability50; hence, further exploration is required. Meanwhile, the PDO or global mean SST alone moderately influenced RI. With the removal of their impacts, the landward variation rates decreased slightly to 0.3/decade/000 km for PDO and 0.2/decade/1000 km for SST... However, it should be mentioned that with the impacts of global SST removed, the increasing rate of RI events declined to ~0/decade per decade, particularly in regions that were beyond 600 km from the coast. This suggests that global warming is a key driver of increases in RI events...

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-40605-2

...our conclusions indicate that anthropogenically-forced climate change has already contributed to the observed, detectable increase in the proportion of rapidly intensifying hurricanes...

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-34321-6#change-history

TCs are amongst costliest and most dangerous natural hazards to impact the U.S., and the hazard they present has grown as storms have become more extreme due to anthropogenic warming. The rapid intensification of TCs in a warmer climate is particularly concerning, given that such events can be difficult to forecast and predict, leading to potentially escalated damages as well as difficulties when communicating the approaching hazard to coastal residents who may be in the TC’s path...

These peak TC intensification rates have increased alongside anthropogenically-driven increases in SSTs, which have been rising at an increased rate in recent decades. Sufficiently warm SSTs serve as a vital energy source for intensifying TCs, and simultaneous increases in both extreme SSTs and maximum TC intensification rates suggests that human-caused warming has already had a measurable impact on the speed with which TCs strengthen.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-42669-y

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334865	Mansfield Wso Ap	Mansfield	OH	40.8204	-82.51769	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	72	57.2	3.6	1st warmest	99
332786	Findlay Faa Ap	Findlay	OH	41.01369	-83.66814	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	82	59.1	3.6	1st warmest	99
111577	Chicago Midway Ap 3sw	Chicago	IL	41.73722	-87.7775	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	91	59.4	3.6	1st warmest	99
270694	Berlin Ap	Berlin	NH	44.57604	-71.1782	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	22	47.9	3.5	1st warmest	95
448903	Washgtn Dulles Intl Ap	Washington	VA	38.93485	-77.44728	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	62	62.3	3.5	1st warmest	98
IADthr	Sterling-Dulles Airport Area	Sterling-Dulles Airport	VA	38.93485	-77.44728	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	62	62.3	3.5	1st warmest	98
339417	Zanesville Faa Ap	Zanesville	OH	39.94609	-81.89315	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	78	59.6	3.5	1st warmest	99
369728	Williamsport Rgnl Ap	Williamsport	PA	41.24295	-76.92173	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	80	57.9	3.5	1st warmest	99
IPTthr	Williamsport Area	Williamsport	PA	41.24295	-76.92173	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	128	57.9	3.5	1st warmest	99
367315	Reading Spaatz Fld	Reading	PA	40.37342	-75.95924	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	26	60.2	3.4	1st warmest	96
307167	Rochester Intl Ap	Rochester	NY	43.11723	-77.67539	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	99	55.7	3.4	1st warmest	99
ROCthr	Rochester Area	Rochester	NY	43.11723	-77.67539	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	152	55.7	3.4	1st warmest	99
310627	BEAUFORT - MICHAEL J. SMITH FIELD	Beaufort	NC	34.73258	-76.65659	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	24	68.7	3.3	1st warmest	96
317069	Raleigh  Ap	Morrisville	NC	35.8923	-78.7819	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	80	67.5	3.3	1st warmest	99
LEXthr	Lexington Area	Lexington	KY	38.03391	-84.61138	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	138	62.8	3.3	1st warmest	99
RDUthr	Raleigh Area	Raleigh	NC	35.8923	-78.7819	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	138	67.5	3.3	1st warmest	99
154746	Lexington Bluegrass Ap	Lexington-Fayette County	KY	38.03391	-84.61138	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	140	62.8	3.3	1st warmest	99
045388	Marysville Ap (asos)	Marysville	CA	39.10194	-121.56778	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	24	67.9	3.2	1st warmest	96
364392	Johnstown Ap	Johnstown	PA	40.31488	-78.83075	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	24	54.9	3.2	1st warmest	96
466849	Parkersburg Faa Ap	Parkersburg	WV	39.33948	-81.44379	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	71	60.6	3.2	1st warmest	99
181790	Chewsville-bridgepor		MD	39.64034	-77.69778	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	122	60.6	3.2	1st warmest	99
047824	San Jose Intl Ap	San Jose	CA	37.35938	-121.92444	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	26	65.2	3.1	1st warmest	96
412797	El Paso Ap	El Paso	TX	31.81234	-106.37737	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	82	72.9	3.1	1st warmest	99
047821	San Jose	San Jose	CA	37.35938	-121.92444	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	92	65.2	3.1	1st warmest	99
ELPthr	El Paso Area	El Paso	TX	31.81234	-106.37737	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	138	72.9	3.1	1st warmest	99
195251	New Bedford Faa Ap	New Bedford	MA	41.67908	-70.95911	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	27	55.8	3	1st warmest	96
331576	Cincinnati Lunken Ap	Cincinnati	OH	39.106	-84.41609	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	68	61.1	3	1st warmest	99
414731	Kelly Fld	San Antonio	TX	29.38333	-98.56667	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	27	75.7	2.9	1st warmest	96
660426	Arecibo Obsy	Arecibo	PR	18.34944	-66.7525	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	28	76.9	2.9	1st warmest	96
088782	Tampa Bay Area Wso	Tampa	FL	27.7	-82.4	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	38	77.3	2.9	1st warmest	97
332075	Dayton Wso Ap	Dayton	OH	39.90639	-84.21861	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	77	60.1	2.9	1st warmest	99
338598	Vandalia Wb Ap	Dayton	OH	39.90639	-84.21861	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	77	60.1	2.9	1st warmest	99
461570	Charleston Yeager Ap	Charleston	WV	38.3795	-81.59112	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	81	62.2	2.9	1st warmest	99
447201	Richmond Intl Ap	Highland Springs	VA	37.51154	-77.32338	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	95	64.8	2.9	1st warmest	99
DAYthr	Dayton Area	Dayton	OH	39.90639	-84.21861	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	128	60.1	2.9	1st warmest	99
RICthr	Richmond Area	Richmond	VA	37.51154	-77.32338	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	128	64.8	2.9	1st warmest	99
319100	Washington Wwtp 4w	Washington	NC	35.55528	-77.07222	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	22	67.4	2.8	1st warmest	95
456858	Quillayute Ap		WA	47.9375	-124.555	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	58	53.9	2.8	1st warmest	98
UILthr	Quillayute Area	Quillayute	WA	47.93695	-124.55757	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	58	53.9	2.8	1st warmest	98
360319	Avoca Scranton Wso Ap	Wilkes-Barre	PA	41.33349	-75.72273	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	76	57.1	2.8	1st warmest	99
367905	Scranton Wso Ap	Wilkes-Barre	PA	41.33349	-75.72273	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	76	57.1	2.8	1st warmest	99
369705	Wilkes Barre Wso Ap	Wilkes-Barre	PA	41.33349	-75.72273	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	76	57.1	2.8	1st warmest	99
AVPthr	Avoca Area	Avoca	PA	41.33349	-75.72273	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	76	57.1	2.8	1st warmest	99
447285	Roanoke Intl Ap	Hollins	VA	37.31719	-79.97369	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	77	63.9	2.8	1st warmest	99
154954	Louisville Intl Ap	Louisville	KY	38.17738	-85.73077	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	79	65	2.8	1st warmest	99
026481	Phoenix Ap	Phoenix	AZ	33.4278	-112.00365	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	83	81.7	2.8	1st warmest	99
462718	Elkins Randolph Cy Ap	Elkins	WV	38.8899	-79.85544	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	99	57.5	2.8	1st warmest	99
ROAthr	Roanoke Area	Roanoke	VA	37.31719	-79.97369	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	112	63.9	2.8	1st warmest	99
EKNthr	Elkins Area	Elkins	WV	38.8899	-79.85544	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	126	57.5	2.8	1st warmest	99
PHXthr	Phoenix Area	Phoenix	AZ	33.4278	-112.00365	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	129	81.7	2.8	1st warmest	99
SDFthr	Louisville Area	Louisville	KY	38.17738	-85.73077	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	152	65	2.8	1st warmest	99
420819	BOUNTIFUL BENCH	Bountiful	UT	40.891	-111.8504	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	50	58.4	2.7	1st warmest	98
365703	Middletown Harrisbg Ap	Middletown	PA	40.1962	-76.77249	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	56	60.2	2.7	1st warmest	98
343407	Gage Ap	Gage	OK	36.29659	-99.76865	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	79	65.6	2.7	1st warmest	99
271683	Concord Asos	Concord	NH	43.20488	-71.50257	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	104	52.9	2.7	1st warmest	99
CONthr	Concord Area	Concord	NH	43.20488	-71.50257	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	122	52.9	2.7	1st warmest	99
MDTthr	Middletown-Harrisburg Area	Middletown-Harrisburg	PA	40.1962	-76.77249	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	136	60.2	2.7	1st warmest	99
049127	Ukiah Faa Ap	Ukiah	CA	39.12781	-123.20015	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	24	64.6	2.6	1st warmest	96
351175	Burns Muni Ap	Burns	OR	43.59486	-118.95788	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	40	52.2	2.6	1st warmest	97
460582	Beckley Raleigh Cy Ap	Beaver	WV	37.78359	-81.12283	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	61	58.3	2.6	1st warmest	98
311690	Charlotte Douglas Ap	Charlotte	NC	35.22254	-80.95433	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	83	67.1	2.6	1st warmest	99
BKWthr	Beckley Area	Beckley	WV	37.78359	-81.12283	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	101	58.3	2.6	1st warmest	99
CLTthr	Charlotte Area	Charlotte	NC	35.22254	-80.95433	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	146	67.1	2.6	1st warmest	99
043861	Hayward Air Terminal	Hayward	CA	37.65886	-122.12116	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	26	63.2	2.5	1st warmest	96
406402	Nashville Asos	Nashville	TN	36.11054	-86.68815	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	85	66.5	2.5	1st warmest	99
INWthr	Winslow Area	Winslow	AZ	35.02795	-110.72206	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	110	63	2.5	1st warmest	99
029439	Winslow Ap	Winslow	AZ	35.02806	-110.72083	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	113	63	2.5	1st warmest	99
047633	Sacramento 5 Ese	Sacramento	CA	38.55556	-121.41694	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	146	68.4	2.5	1st warmest	99
BNAthr	Nashville Area	Nashville	TN	36.11054	-86.68815	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	150	66.5	2.5	1st warmest	99
669521	Trujillo Alto 2 Ssw	Trujillo Alto	PR	18.32833	-66.01639	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	35	81.1	2.4	1st warmest	97
298078	Santa Fe Caa Ap	Santa Fe	NM	35.61096	-106.09574	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	40	58.1	2.4	1st warmest	97
154202	Jackson Wso	Jackson	KY	37.59134	-83.3137	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	44	62.5	2.4	1st warmest	98
JKLthr	Jackson Area	Jackson	KY	37.59134	-83.3137	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	44	62.5	2.4	1st warmest	98
668812	San Juan Intl Ap	San Juan	PR	18.4325	-66.01083	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	69	83.4	2.4	1st warmest	99
330063	Akron Muni Ap	Akron	OH	41.03732	-81.46341	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	71	57.7	2.4	1st warmest	99
047965	Santa Rosa	Santa Rosa	CA	38.45579	-122.71335	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	105	62.7	2.4	1st warmest	99
SJUthr	San Juan Area	San Juan	PR	18.4325	-66.01083	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	126	83.4	2.4	1st warmest	99
314020	Hickory Faa Ap	Hickory	NC	35.74205	-81.38225	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	74	64.4	2.3	1st warmest	99
415411	Lubbock Intl Ap	Lubbock	TX	33.66578	-101.8233	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	78	67.2	2.3	1st warmest	99
LBBthr	Lubbock Area	Lubbock	TX	33.66578	-101.8233	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	111	67.2	2.3	1st warmest	99
461672	Clarksburg Benedum Fld	Clarksburg	WV	39.30218	-80.22392	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	32	60.1	2.2	1st warmest	97
293128	Farmington Faa Ap	Farmington	NM	36.74354	-108.22931	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	51	59.3	2.2	1st warmest	98
660158	Aibonito 1 S	Aibonito	PR	18.12806	-66.26417	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	56	74.1	2.2	1st warmest	98
292440	Deming Faa Ap	Deming	NM	32.25923	-107.72056	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	44	67.1	2.1	1st warmest	98
196012	Norwood Muni Ap	Norwood	MA	42.19123	-71.17326	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	25	56.7	2	1st warmest	96
350412	Baker City Ap	Baker	OR	44.84301	-117.80987	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	81	53.1	2	1st warmest	99
083165	Ft Lauderdale Intl Ap	Miami	FL	26.07875	-80.16223	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	26	79.8	1.9	1st warmest	96
FLLthr	Fort Lauderdale Area	Broward County	FL	26.07875	-80.16223	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	102	79.8	1.9	1st warmest	99
PGDthr	Punta Gorda Area	Charlotte County	FL	26.91847	-81.99391	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	96	78.4	1.3	1st warmest	99
217294	St Cloud Muni Ap		MN	45.54333	-94.05139	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	119	52.2	5.2	T-1st warmest	99
STCthr	Saint Cloud Area	Saint Cloud	MN	45.54416	-94.0516	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	130	52.2	5.2	T-1st warmest	99
309005	Watertown Ap	Watertown	NY	43.98872	-76.02609	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	74	52.6	4.6	T-1st warmest	99
473269	Green Bay A S Intl Ap	Green Bay	WI	44.47958	-88.1371	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	128	53.4	4.4	T-1st warmest	99
GRBthr	Green Bay Area	Green Bay	WI	44.47958	-88.1371	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	138	53.4	4.4	T-1st warmest	99
430559	BENNINGTON MORSE STATE AP	Bennington	VT	42.8935	-73.24875	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	26	52.8	4.2	T-1st warmest	96
475017	Manitowoc	Manitowoc	WI	44.08694	-87.65222	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	123	52.2	4.2	T-1st warmest	99
132367	Dubuque Wso Ap	Dubuque	IA	42.39834	-90.70913	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	71	54.7	3.8	T-1st warmest	99
032420	Fayetteville Drake Fld	Fayetteville	AR	36.01027	-94.16824	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	28	64.4	3.7	T-1st warmest	96
032443	Fayetteville Faa Ap	Fayetteville	AR	36.01027	-94.16824	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	60	64.4	3.7	T-1st warmest	98
HTSthr	Huntington Area	Huntington	WV	38.36531	-82.5548	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	124	63.3	3.7	T-1st warmest	99
199923	Worcester	Worcester	MA	42.27054	-71.87312	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	76	54.4	3.6	T-1st warmest	99
ORHthr	Worcester Area	Worcester	MA	42.27054	-71.87312	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	129	54.4	3.6	T-1st warmest	99
124837	Laporte	Michigan City--La Porte	IN	41.6116	-86.7297	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	74	56.5	3.3	T-1st warmest	99
363699	Harrisburg Capital Cy	Harrisburg	PA	40.21843	-76.85521	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	75	61.4	3.2	T-1st warmest	99
286026	Newark Intl Ap	New York--Newark	NJ	40.68275	-74.16927	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	94	61.6	3.2	T-1st warmest	99
EWRthr	Newark Area	Newark	NJ	40.68275	-74.16927	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	94	61.6	3.2	T-1st warmest	99
151855	Covington Wso	Florence	KY	39.04443	-84.67241	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	77	61	3.1	T-1st warmest	99
177238	Robbinston		ME	45.08528	-67.12028	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	30	49.7	3	T-1st warmest	97
138706	Waterloo Municipal Ap	Waterloo	IA	42.55437	-92.40131	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	73	55.9	3	T-1st warmest	99
331657	Cleveland Wsfo Ap	Cleveland	OH	41.40568	-81.85191	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	86	58.2	3	T-1st warmest	99
CLEthr	Cleveland Area	Cleveland	OH	41.40568	-81.85191	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	149	58.2	3	T-1st warmest	99
360130	Altoona Faa Ap	Altoona	PA	40.29993	-78.3168	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	75	56.9	2.9	T-1st warmest	99
365454	Martinsburg Altoona Fa	Altoona	PA	40.29993	-78.3168	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	75	56.9	2.9	T-1st warmest	99
364763	Lancaster 2ne Fltr Plt	Lancaster	PA	40.05	-76.27417	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	44	59.5	2.8	T-1st warmest	98
115751	Moline Wso Ap	Moline	IL	41.44816	-90.52365	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	90	57.7	2.8	T-1st warmest	99
182336	Damascus 3 Ssw	Damascus	MD	39.26495	-77.23196	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	29	59.6	2.6	T-1st warmest	97
223608	Greenville Asos	Greenville	MS	33.49385	-90.98058	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	30	69.6	2.4	T-1st warmest	97
401656	Chattanooga Ap	Ridgeside	TN	35.03363	-85.20039	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	97	67.5	2.4	T-1st warmest	99
CHAthr	Chattanooga Area	Chattanooga	TN	35.03363	-85.20039	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	146	67.5	2.4	T-1st warmest	99
427598	Salt Lake City Intl Ap	Salt Lake City	UT	40.77069	-111.96503	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	77	61.1	2.3	T-1st warmest	99
SLCthr	Salt Lake City Area	Salt Lake City	UT	40.77069	-111.96503	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	150	61.1	2.3	T-1st warmest	99
310308	Asheville 8 Ssw	Bent Creek	NC	35.4945	-82.6142	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	23	59.6	2.2	T-1st warmest	96
305801	Ny City Cntrl Park	New York	NY	40.77898	-73.96925	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	156	60.7	2.2	T-1st warmest	99
NYCthr	New York-Central Park Area	New York-Central Park	NY	40.77898	-73.96925	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	156	60.7	2.2	T-1st warmest	99
047971	Santa Rosa Sonoma Co Ap	Santa Rosa	CA	38.50369	-122.81101	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	26	61.7	1.9	T-1st warmest	96
254778	Lexington 7 Ese		NE	40.75	-99.61667	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	25	56.3	1.8	T-1st warmest	96
040927	Blythe Asos	Blythe	CA	33.61861	-114.71417	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	73	79.6	1.7	T-1st warmest	99
304844	Lockport 3 S	Lockport	NY	43.18769	-78.60912	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	97	53.6	1.7	T-1st warmest	99
663431	Dos Bocas		PR	18.33611	-66.66667	1-Jan-24	6-Oct-24	280_DAY	Year to Date	59	79.5	1.4	T-1st warmest	98

 

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World Weather Attribution has published its study on Hurricane Helene. Climate change played an important role in making it a worse storm than it would have been without climate change.

https://www.worldweatherattribution.org/climate-change-key-driver-of-catastrophic-impacts-of-hurricane-helene-that-devastated-both-coastal-and-inland-communities/

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2 hours ago, donsutherland1 said:

World Weather Attribution has published its study on Hurricane Helene. Climate change played an important role in making it a worse storm than it would have been without climate change.

https://www.worldweatherattribution.org/climate-change-key-driver-of-catastrophic-impacts-of-hurricane-helene-that-devastated-both-coastal-and-inland-communities/

Meanwhile,

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/2024/07/05/textbook-authors-told-climate-change-references-must-be-cut-to-get-floridas-ok/

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6 hours ago, SnoSki14 said:

Literally trying to deny reality. Like that meme of your house being on fire and you ignoring it. 

no one asked, but i don't believe 'trying' is part of it.  they really think they can.

i like to drill down the granularity even further, and consider/posit reasons for the bold (abv). 

the masses are being enabled to do so.   the, why they are? that is complex, but my posit is that it has to deal with feedback, multi-generational, from the relative opulence/provisional state that exists inside the industrial bubble - the first time anything like this scale and degree of transformative influence has occurred in human history ( btw... ).   i mean one can argue the advent agriculture, but no - that was too primitive.  the real convenience of choice-addling doesn't begin there. 

it began when people were given, for the first time, the freedom of alternatives.  this means that a bad choice or decision no longer result in "death of a child" - unless they're just plumb dumb fuck Darwinian recipients... different matter -

anyway, you ingraciate enough consecutive generations, and consequentially the dimming of wit, as well as the advent of "alternative truths" that satisfy a narrative/preconception bias, both become ( perhaps academically) the most likely trajectories of the masses.   as an aside, it's a species level consideration; we are clearly in a kind of socio-technological experiment.

anyway,  the bubble protects people from their own stupidity, which ironically ... promotes their stupidity

it's not hard to imagine/intuit this, really.  imagine a farmer with 6 kids during frontier americana circa 1830s ... they didn't make bad choices as often, because failure is not an option.  lack of recourse too commonly resulted in a very high price: disease, death, famine ...    in the year 2000, fuck up one's job/salary, a.k.a. their "crops", and there's a plethora of other options to recourse - and plenty of social nets to bridge between hard times.   the myopic reader would say this isn't true, citing x y or z.  but, in either x y or z, the difference there is that the possibility of 'could' is probabilistically/factorably larger in modernity.  in 1830, you tried a lot harder not to fuck shit up out of necessity - it is not a giant leap to wonder if despite having far less access to the information saturation of the modern individual, those 1830 were even far more intelligent with what they had to work with the information they were exposed

so, long of the short ... this has been a 'dimming intellectual' influence that began during the early decades of last century, and really has since become an outright mechanism in the socialization of the masses.  since the advent of 'information dosing,'    truth as we know it is defaulting to a feeble contender vs the prohibitive favorite in make belief.

this is what i long suspected to be true ... really since the ability of seeing humanity's dirty laundry on guilty pleasurable tap.  a mere channel turn, mouse click, or thumb swipe leads to an expose of cringe-worthy lies that color events put on by the deliciously feckless of virtue - in other words, immorality and stupidity on both sides: those committing the egregious shit, and those who are the audience of it.  then... i encountered this intriguing study:

https://phys.org/news/2023-03-online-iq-scores-century.html

in fairness, the parenthetical states, "The researchers did not conduct any research to try to explain the drop, but suggest it might be linked to changes in the education system..."  but, almost as drool humor, I would suggest the "education system" is vastly more than handcuffing students to desks and forcing eyes on test plans.  It's really about what multiple generations are exposed to, then ... the handing down of lessening intellectual returns.

it's always nice to hypothesize, then have one's hypothesis substantiated.

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16 hours ago, Typhoon Tip said:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-50813-z

the gist of it is that the more extreme plausible range of CC is more possible than previously thought

Interesting paper, can't say I understand the details. While several  lower ECS model perform best under the metrics developed, several high ECS also perform well and can't be discounted. All of this is based on 1970-2014 observations. My concern is that the results would be different if updated with 2014+ obs when warming has accelerated. Would be interesting to check in any case.

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On 6/4/2024 at 4:30 PM, TheClimateChanger said:

Here's another good one from January 1, 1992. "The thermometer may have been placed at times over asphalt or dirt, rather than over grass as it is supposed to be." Meanwhile, the old records were taken on asphalt rooftops. Make it make sense. I wonder what Mr. Hendricksen's excuse would be today, when pretty much every year is as hot or hotter than 1991.

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You think that's bad. Get a load of this report from the year prior, in the Pittsburgh Press.

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What's interesting about this is they ranked the years by departure from the mean at the location in which the temperature was taken, rather than absolute temperature, which helped to somewhat account for the change in location and exposure over the years.

Today, they no longer provide any sort of context with these threaded extremes. So whereas 1990 was considered the third warmest year on record in Pittsburgh at the time, today it's only 30th warmest [tied with 4 other years]. Although some of that is attributable to the fact that 6 recent years have been warmer than 1990, and one (2020) matched its annual mean. 2024 will certainly come in warmer, and is more likely than not to set the record for all years [even ignoring the nearly 500' elevation gain and change from heavy urban/rooftop siting to suburban airport setting].

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13 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said:

You think that's bad. Get a load of this report from the year prior, in the Pittsburgh Press.

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What's interesting about this is they ranked the years by departure from the mean at the location in which the temperature was taken, rather than absolute temperature, which helped to somewhat account for the change in location and exposure over the years.

Today, they no longer provide any sort of context with these threaded extremes. So whereas 1990 was considered the third warmest year on record in Pittsburgh at the time, today it's only 30th warmest [tied with 4 other years]. Although some of that is attributable to the fact that 6 recent years have been warmer than 1990, and one (2020) matched its annual mean. 2024 will certainly come in warmer, and is more likely than not to set the record for all years [even ignoring the nearly 500' elevation gain and change from heavy urban/rooftop siting to suburban airport setting].

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We can also see any temperature records that show the 1980s and 1990s as cold are gaslighting us. The 1980s were very warm, as noted in the article. The 1990s were considered to be the warmest decade on record.

And so much misinformation. They want us to "trust the experts" and the so-called experts were used to gaslight us with non sequiturs. "The question you have to ask yourself is, if this was the third warmest year in Pittsburgh, what happened to cause the other two" and "[t]he relationship between global warming and temperatures at any particular location is not very strong." Absolute rubbish from someone who should have known better even in that era.

The funny thing is there are people here who think it's a government conspiracy or hoax, as if the U.S. government didn't spend decades gaslighting us and ignoring reality. :clown:

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