Typhoon Tip Posted July 18, 2019 Author Share Posted July 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: Yeah that was weird...lets see if this works: 1936 98 1937 99 1938 94 1939 96 1940 95 1941 96 1942 93 1943 97 1944 101 1945 96 1946 96 1947 99 1948 100 1949 101 1950 93 1951 92 1952 100 1953 100 1954 95 1955 100 1956 97 1957 98 1958 93 1959 96 1960 93 1961 95 1962 92 1963 98 1964 97 1965 93 1966 97 1967 94 1968 98 1969 95 1970 94 1971 94 1972 94 1973 99 1974 95 1975 102 1976 95 1977 102 1978 99 1979 95 1980 99 1981 99 1982 98 1983 99 1984 98 1985 93 1986 95 1987 96 1988 99 1989 96 1990 93 1991 99 1992 92 1993 99 1994 97 1995 100 1996 91 1997 95 1998 93 1999 98 2000 92 2001 97 2002 101 2003 93 2004 93 2005 97 2006 98 2007 96 2008 95 2009 95 2010 100 2011 103 2012 97 2013 99 2014 93 2015 96 2016 98 2017 95 2018 98 Much better! and thanks bro - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Sunday could be a sneaky oppressive day. Everyone is focusing on Saturday. Yeah think I said that yesterday. May have seen Tippy mention it too. More of a SNE deal though as we'll tone it down a bit for sure from Sat. (at least I hope) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: Mid 90s are being forecasted here. Pretty ordinary for peak climo but yes sure the warm sites will get close to 100 when a plane roars by. NAM has bigger numbers west of BOS vs the airport..which doesn’t make sense with a 280 wind which is hot as hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Loving the comfort today. Down to 64/59 with a nice breeze. Tip ftw? The shawl will be a memory on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 18, 2019 Author Share Posted July 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Sunday could be a sneaky oppressive day. Everyone is focusing on Saturday. Yeah ..agree.. the thing is... we talk about nocturnals being held unsually high ... holy ass gas man! Saturday night is going to be something really freakish... I wonder what it would be like at 3 am in the core of any brick and mortar, steel and glass urban centers. That's important...because as hot as Saturday looks...the launch pad Sunday morning is like a trust fund brat born rounding third telling everyone how hard they worked for their home run in life when it's 97, above MOS .. only 11am on Sunday morning. I could see that happening... sure. 82 for a low in urbania ... mm. Something I've been wondering...if daily elevated miminum records might be broken. We may cap 96/78 Sat afternoon ...fine. But, given the synoptics, where ever that happens, good look whittling off degrees after dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, powderfreak said: I could see maybe 2 days of 90F+? No way we get four. I dunno, it’s just local bias as we aren’t +5 for the month like a lot of spots...it’s been very pleasant and near normal (0.3). We just averaged below normal for the past 4 day stretch. Gonna get hot for Saturday for sure though. It’s not even close in NNE and MPV in NNE is not seeing more than half the 90’s that last year was by Monday. Likely they will have a quarter of them at MPV on Monday . Any ways ... lets see what the highest heat index is Friday to Sunday i recall last year EEN had around a 112 or so with like a 82 DP one day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 18, 2019 Author Share Posted July 18, 2019 Heh...gives me a chuckle seeing thickness modeled to within a tick or two of 580 dm over PF country ... where we brag about hidden cove snow into mid Junes - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: It’s not even close in NNE and MPV in NNE is not seeing more than half the 90’s that last year was by Monday. Likely they will have a quarter of them at MPV on Monday . Any ways ... lets see what the highest heat index is Friday to Sunday i recall last year EEN had around a 112 or so with like a 82 DP one day Sam was completely losing his shit at GYX too. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 18, 2019 Author Share Posted July 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, weathafella said: NAM has bigger numbers west of BOS vs the airport..which doesn’t make sense with a 280 wind which is hot as hell. Yeah I've been picking away at NAM numbers with this myself... It's either onto something, or is somehow bugging out on moisture handling I suspect. Not sure which way to go. Thing is...it's not theoretically impossible that DPs are so anomalously high that they effectively 'rob' thermal energy away from the kinetic side of PV=NRT. When the mass (N) increases, in order to keep the pressure*volume product from violating planetary arguments ...the temperature has to drop ... it's just math. Anyway, if the WV is extraordinary... that could hold keep the temp from gaudy numbers ... I don't know ..haha.. .It's like Will said the other day. Who the f even cares man... 94/78 vs 100/72 ? really - ...like that matters to 99.9999999999999% of anyone 'cept the loons you find in here that alter life trying to pin it down.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Still no 90s this month at CON. lol PRELIMINARY LOCAL CLIMATOLOGICAL DATA (WS FORM: F-6) STATION: CONCORD NH MONTH: JULY YEAR: 2019 LATITUDE: 43 12 N LONGITUDE: 71 30 W TEMPERATURE IN F: :PCPN: SNOW: WIND :SUNSHINE: SKY :PK WND ================================================================================ 1 2 3 4 5 6A 6B 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 12Z AVG MX 2MIN DY MAX MIN AVG DEP HDD CDD WTR SNW DPTH SPD SPD DIR MIN PSBL S-S WX SPD DR ================================================================================ 1 M M M M M M M 0.0 0 M M M M M 0 M M 2 M M M M M M M 0.0 0 M M M M M 0 M M 3 M M M M M M M 0.0 0 M M M M M 0 M M 4 M M M M M M 0.00 0.0 0 M M M M M 0 M M 5 M M M M M M 0.00 0.0 0 M M M M M 0 M M 6 M M M M M M 0.00 0.0 0 M M M M M 0 3 M M 7 M M M M M M 0.00 0.0 0 M M M M M 0 M M 8 M M M M M M 0.00 0.0 0 M M M M M 0 M M 9 M M M M M M 0.00 0.0 0 M M M M M 0 M M 10 M M M M M M 0.00 0.0 0 M M M M M 0 M M 11 M M M M M M M 0.0 0 M M M M M 0 M M 12 M M M M M M M 0.0 0 M M M M M 0 M M 13 M M M M M M 0.00 0.0 0 M M M M M 0 M M 14 M M M M M M 0.00 0.0 0 M M M M M 0 M M 15 M M M M M M 0.00 0.0 0 M M M M M 0 M M 16 M M M M M M 0.00 0.0 0 M M M M M 0 M M 17 M M M M M M 0.00 0.0 0 M M M M M 0 M M ================================================================================ SM M M M M 0.00 0.0 M M 0 ================================================================================ AV M M M FASTST M M 0 MAX(MPH) MISC ----> M M M M ================================================================================ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: Yeah ..agree.. the thing is... we talk about nocturnals being held unsually high ... holy ass gas man! Saturday night is going to be something really freakish... I wonder what it would be like at 3 am in the core of any brick and mortar, steel and glass urban centers. That's important...because as hot as Saturday looks...the launch pad Sunday morning is like a trust fund brat born rounding third telling everyone how hard they worked for their home run in life when it's 97, above MOS .. only 11am on Sunday morning. I could see that happening... sure. 82 for a low in urbania ... mm. Something I've been wondering...if daily elevated miminum records might be broken. We may cap 96/78 Sat afternoon ...fine. But, given the synoptics, where ever that happens, good look whittling off degrees after dark. BDL:BOS - ORH all should stay 80 or higher Sat nite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: Yeah ..agree.. the thing is... we talk about nocturnals being held unsually high ... holy ass gas man! Saturday night is going to be something really freakish... I wonder what it would be like at 3 am in the core of any brick and mortar, steel and glass urban centers. That's important...because as hot as Saturday looks...the launch pad Sunday morning is like a trust fund brat born rounding third telling everyone how hard they worked for their home run in life when it's 97, above MOS .. only 11am on Sunday morning. I could see that happening... sure. 82 for a low in urbania ... mm. Something I've been wondering...if daily elevated miminum records might be broken. We may cap 96/78 Sat afternoon ...fine. But, given the synoptics, where ever that happens, good look whittling off degrees after dark. Down here in the suburbs it's even forecast to be 80F Saturday night, which I don't ever recall seeing. La Guardia may only get down to 84-85. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 18, 2019 Author Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Damage In Tolland said: BDL:BOS - ORH all should stay 80 or higher Sat nite For BDL and BOS, ... I'm pretty close to droppin' bills down against the dealer on this, yup - It's gonna be close... I've seen it be like 81 at Logan for four consecutive hours, then at 4:55 ...just before the light umbra tips a glow over the eastern horizon they weasel a 78.4 for a two minute spike. Not sure about Worcester tho - the impetus of the prior post was "urban"? The air port is 1,000 set up on a plateau well removed from that. Not sure that site'll maintain the same thermal bubble as the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 56 minutes ago, dendrite said: "close to par" It's definitely been more anomalous further south. BTV is below normal on their torch HIX values YTD. BDL is only slightly below it YTD. And yes, I'm having fun with the ISU plots today. Oh man I’ve never seen these before...had no idea they had this. Will have to dig in a bit later. I was just more thinking in terms of dews, last July felt worse but I’m probably thinking of that first week where we had 5 straight days 88+ for highs and some high mins. That was a torrid stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: For BDL and BOS, ... I'm pretty close to droppin' bills down against the dealer on this, yup - It's gonna be close... I've seen it be like 81 at Logan for four consecutive hours, then at 4:55 ...just before the ligh umbra tips a glow on the eastern horizon they weasel at 78.4 for a two minute spike. Not sure about Worcester tho - the impetus of the prior post was "urban"? The air port is 1,000 set up on a plateau well removed from that. Not sure that site'll maintain the same thermal bubble as the former. You will get your 90F @ 9, but it may be PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Blech, of course I let myself get roped into helping a friend move on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 18, 2019 Author Share Posted July 18, 2019 43 minutes ago, dendrite said: You will get your 90F @ 9, but it may be PM. Ha! word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, CoastalWx said: NAM also mixes out on Saturday, esp north of pike. High 80's low 90"s would be run of the mill if the Nam is correct up here anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 And yes, Sunday did not look like anyone is going to be seeing relief, That comes on Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 18, 2019 Author Share Posted July 18, 2019 55 minutes ago, Hoth said: Blech, of course I let myself get roped into helping a friend move on Sunday. ha ha... you dope. oh man - that's funny... well, with any luck, it'll be the third floor up a non-ventilated stairwell like you see in a '70s gritty ghetto film, and the actual living space is a converted attic with all the associated thermodynamics of the typical urban tripleplex - hopefully ...there's that one piece of furniture that can't get around the corners so you have to stall and wait it out while someone dinks around with with a screw driver taking foot pegs off ... "oh - shit. flat- heads" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Just now, Typhoon Tip said: Ha! word May be 9am up here. 12z MAV 100+ for Sat CON 101 LWM 101 MHT 100 ASH 100 IZG 100 FIT 100 BDL 99 BOS 98 PVD 95 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Actually feels cool today. No sweat on the mid day walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 18, 2019 Author Share Posted July 18, 2019 Just now, dendrite said: May be 9am up here. 12z MAV 100+ for Sat CON 101 LWM 101 MHT 100 ASH 100 IZG 100 FIT 100 BDL 99 BOS 98 PVD 95 that's actually interesting .. hm. should be we believe it? thing is, the MOS isn't just the raw adiabats ...tinted by clouds or whatever as we both knows...blah blah. But, at times like these, when that looks that way I wonder what happened in the past ...what similar set up doink BDL from winning against your every day MHT's... wow. Hopefully, it was when Kevin was trophy foisting - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: ha ha... you dope. oh man - that's funny... well, with any luck, it'll be the third floor up a non-ventilated stairwell like you see in a '70s gritty ghetto film, and the actual living space is a converted attic with all the associated thermodynamics of the typical urban tripleplex - Reminds me of moving my sister into Manhattan on June 1st several years ago... 4th floor, no elevator, no AC in any public spaces... dripping sweat lugging furniture up a hot stairwell on the East Side of Manhattan.... I was all set with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, weathafella said: Actually feels cool today. No sweat on the mid day walk. My grandfather would have a sweater on today... get older get colder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 18, 2019 Author Share Posted July 18, 2019 Just now, powderfreak said: Reminds me of moving my sister into Manhattan on June 1st several years ago... 4th floor, no elevator, no AC in any public spaces... dripping sweat lugging furniture up a hot stairwell on the East Side of Manhattan.... I was all set with that. Bingo! That's ...basically what I hope Hoth encounters for having the audacity of actually helping someone with a good deed - 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Anyway...850s look pretty uniform in that 21-23C range. So those who mix out more (up here) probably verify hotter on Saturday by a couple of degrees. So again...pick your poison. 100/68 at MHT or 98/74 at BDL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 The Green Mountains may become the Green Fields Saturday night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: ha ha... you dope. oh man - that's funny... well, with any luck, it'll be the third floor up a non-ventilated stairwell like you see in a '70s gritty ghetto film, and the actual living space is a converted attic with all the associated thermodynamics of the typical urban tripleplex - hopefully ...there's that one piece of furniture that can get around the corners so you have to stall and wait it out while someone dinks around with with a screw driver taking foot pegs off ... "oh - shit. flat- heads" You joke, but it is exactly that. Third floor, steep narrow stairs, crap ventilation. Thankfully the destination has an elevator, but it's still gonna be a nightmare worthy of Kafka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 hours ago, CoastalWx said: Some just can’t accept it. It’s just warmer in the summer lately. Partly seasonal, partly GW. This is true, but the local long-term co-op is doing it all with minima, and not even super-high minima. Using only the data gathered since July 1966 by the current observer, who is 1.3 miles north of town center while all obs 1893-1966 were taken in town, annual frequency of 90+ days is shown below: 1960s 3.4 1970s 3.5 1980s 3.1 1990s 3.0 2000s 3.8 2010s 2.6 (Does not include 2019 to date. I don't think they've touched 90 yet, but don't have July temps to prove it. June max was 85.) Not much trend there. And the highest temp 2011-on is 93, in May 2017. Last time they got above 95 was in 1995. They've recorded just 38 minima of 70+, with 10 coming 1966-on. Smaller sample size is 72+, with only 11 and just one (7/22/1977) in the past 69 years. However, the co-op has notched 229 minima 67-69, including 61 since 7/66 (thus 71 at 67+), and there's a real trend for those, average annual by decades: 1960s 0.9 1970s 1.3 1980s 0.6 1990s 0.6 2000s 1.7 2010s 2.9 Could probably extend the data to 65+, or even 60+, and see the same trend, only with a much bigger sample thus lots more work given some quirks in my Excel performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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