OceanStWx Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 16 minutes ago, LSC97wxnut said: If tornadic, at least EF-1 per the Cape Sands Roof? Based on the EF-scale that's probably 95-100 mph-like expected damage. So solidly in the EF1 category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 22 minutes ago, sbos_wx said: I'm not convinced it was a tornado all the way through. It definitely touched down. Wouldn't doubt a lot of straight line damage too being perhaps majority of damage. Looks like tornado damage is limited to EF0 or EF1. I would agree based on the velocity. We already know there was a tornado but I think there certainly was significant straight line wind damage as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 37 minutes ago, sbos_wx said: He's having trouble with cell service. I asked him if trees fell in multiple directions. Sounded like he described straight line. But not sure if he's had chance to travel enough to tell (or if he would understand) Surveys are tough, especially when basing it off tree damage alone. Weak trees (think stronger tornado) relative to an inflow dominant tornado tend to fall before the tornado arrives, so they will actually fall opposite the tornado direction of motion. As the tornado weakens this type of tornado shows a broadening confluent damage path but all roughly in the same direction. As there become more rotation relative to inflow (less convergent) with tornadoes the damage pattern gets even more convoluted. The stronger a tornado gets the more the tree pattern will look unidirectional (but the key is it falls across track). And the stronger and more convergent a tornado gets, the more the confluent zone of damage shifts to the left of track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 in front of my parents cottage in North Falmouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 So this is confirmed via media.. Sounds like NWS will investigate if there were two separate tornadoes. Tim Kelley has video of two separate locations, 1-2 minutes apart, both spinning. So it's plausible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: Surveys are tough, especially when basing it off tree damage alone. Weak trees (think stronger tornado) relative to an inflow dominant tornado tend to fall before the tornado arrives, so they will actually fall opposite the tornado direction of motion. As the tornado weakens this type of tornado shows a broadening confluent damage path but all roughly in the same direction. As there become more rotation relative to inflow (less convergent) with tornadoes the damage pattern gets even more convoluted. The stronger a tornado gets the more the tree pattern will look unidirectional (but the key is it falls across track). And the stronger and more convergent a tornado gets, the more the confluent zone of damage shifts to the left of track. I am having a twister hit my brain after reading this lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wxeyeNH Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 33 minutes ago, LSC97wxnut said: If tornadic, at least EF-1 per the Cape Sands Roof? Lots of conjecture on my part. I looked up the Cape Sands Inn. So per this picture, it was a west wind that took off the roof. Maybe RFD from the departing circulation. That Inn seems a bit far NW of where the ground circulation would have been? How wide would a small tornado be on the ground? Maybe 500 feet? Wind at the Inn could have gotton under the roof and pulled the whole thing off. We will have to see what the NWS says because much of this damage could just be straight line winds around a broad center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Just now, sbos_wx said: I am having a twister hit my brain after reading this lol Yeah try doing this in the field when all you have is a bunch of trees broken like match sticks! That's why the surveys take so long. The wind speed is usually the easy part, determining if it was a tornado and the track is much harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 minute ago, sbos_wx said: @BruschiTeddy! No! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 It's crazy to see rt 6 like this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 13 minutes ago, sbos_wx said: He works in a post office? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torch Tiger Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Awesome storm. My parents properties in E Fal., one that sits on green pond by the marina, had tree damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Looks like fun on the Cape. Nothing but business suits up here. 77/51 and scattered Cu over the peaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 https://www.boston.com/weather/weather/2019/07/23/live-weather-updates-as-severe-storms-hit-the-cape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSC97wxnut Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 22 minutes ago, Dr. Dews said: Awesome storm. My parents properties in E Fal., one that sits on green pond by the marina, had tree damage Ouch... We're supposed to stay at a place hear Menauhant Beach next month. Hope it's OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Nice vid. That wind got into that porch area and peeled that roof off like a lid on a can of cat food. Almost looked like it came off a little too easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Highlight of the day was James attempting to take responsibility for pic of the tor on twitter 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 minute ago, sbos_wx said: Highlight of the day was James attempting to take responsibility for pic of the tor on twitter link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 minute ago, sbos_wx said: Highlight of the day was James attempting to take responsibility for pic of the tor on twitter Wtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torch Tiger Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, dendrite said: Nice vid. That wind got into that porch area and peeled that roof off like a lid on a can of cat food. Almost looked like it came off a little too easily. That roof was ready to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, dendrite said: Nice vid. That wind got into that porch area and peeled that roof off like a lid on a can of cat food. Almost looked like it came off a little too easily. That's what it looked to me. Strong straight line wind got under old, crappy construction. Although I don't blame the guy filming it's too bad we didn't see another 30 seconds to see if any kind of wind switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 I'm dying 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 55 pics from my dad. Minor shingle damage. Tree on house behind us though. Fence is gone and blown over. The side streets behind me have more trees, they are in worse shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Check out this moron out on his boat https://twitter.com/boston25/status/1153788743980990465?s=09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Cold Miser > Heat Miser Extreme heat weenie, 2 weeks in July, Extreme winter storm weenie. Nov to April Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 hour ago, dendrite said: Nice vid. That wind got into that porch area and peeled that roof off like a lid on a can of cat food. Almost looked like it came off a little too easily. Reminded me of a Ginsu thru a tin can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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