powderfreak Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 On 7/16/2019 at 5:37 PM, CoastalWx said: Right, better to be at 1000ft and have a higher relative elevation or prominence vs being at 1000ft and surrounded by terrain like a fishbowl. Expand Yeah you can see it in the diurnal changes... ORH has like a 16F swing as opposed to 30+ degree swings at 1,000ft but in a valley. Hell, ORH can be cooler during the day than SLK at 1,600ft because it’s surrounded by 4-5kft peaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 On 7/16/2019 at 5:50 PM, Damage In Tolland said: KTOL same idea. Which is why Herb in the valley there in Stafford, under the hilltops , but still not at a real low elevation can radiate fake cold so well , Expand Yeah...just like how you are the first to hit the warm sector in winter too whereas 1k valleys hug the cold CAD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Or put MWN against Denver. Same elevation, no comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 On 7/16/2019 at 5:54 PM, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: Or put MWN against Denver. Same elevation, no comparison. Expand ACK upsloping in Furnace Creek? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 On 7/16/2019 at 5:42 PM, ORH_wxman said: Yep, that's why I said " Unless you have a downslope or compression aspect to the air " that its really hard to hit 95+ at 1,000 feet at this latitude. You need something to cook the air like the chinook out west in Montana/Wyoming or on a more local scale like HIE/BML off the presidentials. Expand There’s really nothing to get air sinking at ORH... you’ll never have that compressional warming there it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 On 7/16/2019 at 5:54 PM, dendrite said: Yeah...just like how you are the first to hit the warm sector in winter too whereas 1k valleys hug the cold CAD. Expand Not the first. That’s IJD/Ginx SE. But if it’s a screamer , yeah it’s going to warm at some point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 On 7/16/2019 at 5:53 PM, powderfreak said: Yeah you can see it in the diurnal changes... ORH has like a 16F swing as opposed to 30+ degree swings at 1,000ft but in a valley. Hell, ORH can be cooler during the day than SLK at 1,600ft because it’s surrounded by 4-5kft peaks. Expand Colder then SLK....hmmm rare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 On 7/16/2019 at 5:54 PM, dendrite said: Yeah...just like how you are the first to hit the warm sector in winter too whereas 1k valleys hug the cold CAD. Expand Pack intact at 700ft where it’s 30.3F while 1,000ft Davis is stuck at 33.3F as snow eating wind whistles through the trees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 On 7/16/2019 at 5:56 PM, STILL N OF PIKE said: Colder then SLK....hmmm Expand Maple Hollow is cooler on rad nights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Just to add an interesting note to this whole summer thing, it’s been pretty damn cool in the Hudson Bay area lately. So the cold air is there, just hasn’t really penetrated too far south. But, it’s worth noting Hudson Bay has been pretty damn cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 On 7/16/2019 at 5:59 PM, powderfreak said: Pack intact at 700ft where it’s 30.3F while 1,000ft Davis is stuck at 33.3F as snow eating wind whistles through the trees? Expand Shades closed at 990ft while people in West Hartford post about their ZR all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 On 7/16/2019 at 5:56 PM, STILL N OF PIKE said: Colder then SLK....hmmm rare Expand Not during the day/afternoon. I’ve seen it enough that it’s not rare. 79F SLK and 79F ORH right now. Of course by 9pm SLK is 15F colder, ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 On 7/16/2019 at 6:00 PM, CoastalWx said: Just to add an interesting note to this whole summer thing, it’s been pretty damn cool in the Hudson Bay area lately. So the cold air is there, just hasn’t really penetrated too far south. But, it’s worth noting Hudson Bay has been pretty damn cold. Expand I think I posted a couple weeks ago how the LR models had been keeping some relatively cold air in that region. Only problem is we haven't been able to tap into it like some of those lalaland runs did from time to time. Maybe we can tap into it briefly in between torches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoalaBeer Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Is the map of the US on NWS homepage to get to particular WFOs not clickable for anyone else in here? Right as I comment it starts working for me again... Also looks like remnants of Barry are causing more problems in Arkansas today then it did along the most of the gulf coast. Who would've thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 On 7/16/2019 at 6:00 PM, dendrite said: Shades closed at 990ft while people in West Hartford post about their ZR all day. Expand We here The highest point in Tolland, Bald Hill, is on this property at an elevation of 1,011 feet above sea level. The land is level in the northern section but then sharply drops 100 feet in elevation. There is an excellent view to the south from the ridge top, especially in winter. A bench is located there so that hikers may sit and enjoy the view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 On 7/16/2019 at 6:07 PM, Damage In Tolland said: We here The highest point in Tolland, Bald Hill, is on this property at an elevation of 1,011 feet above sea level. The land is level in the northern section but then sharply drops 100 feet in elevation. There is an excellent view to the south from the ridge top, especially in winter. A bench is located there so that hikers may sit and enjoy the view. Expand Pretty sure I've plugged your spot on your road into the topo maps and you were sub 1k by a hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 On 7/16/2019 at 6:11 PM, dendrite said: Pretty sure I've plugged your spot on your road into the topo maps and you were sub 1k by a hair. Expand Bald hill is fitting though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 On 7/16/2019 at 6:13 PM, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: Bald hill is fitting though. Expand I think it was called Robin Hill before he made Tolland famous on newscasts so they renamed it after him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 It’s too bad they downslope and take on ORH’s exhaust in the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 He's lower than I originally thought. I'll give him 955ft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan76 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 On 7/16/2019 at 6:06 PM, KoalaBeer said: Is the map of the US on NWS homepage to get to particular WFOs not clickable for anyone else in here? Right as I comment it starts working for me again... Also looks like remnants of Barry are causing more problems in Arkansas today then it did along the most of the gulf coast. Who would've thought. Expand Still not working here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 A lot of cloud contamination here this afternoon. 78F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Flash flooding is def a concern tomorrow. I'm honestly not even sure if there will be a ton of lightning tomorrow. Just slow-ish moving training downpours with a few CG's tickling the ground once in a while. I guess locally where an updraft can accelerate towards space some spitting CG's will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 On 7/16/2019 at 6:31 PM, weatherwiz said: Flash flooding is def a concern tomorrow. I'm honestly not even sure if there will be a ton of lightning tomorrow. Just slow-ish moving training downpours with a few CG's tickling the ground once in a while. I guess locally where an updraft can accelerate towards space some spitting CG's will happen. Expand Do you think this waits until after 5pm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 I was with Kevin once near his house and he showed me the elevation on his phone...it wasn't too terribly far from 1,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 On 7/16/2019 at 6:33 PM, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: Do you think this waits until after 5pm? Expand I think the majority will but I can see stuff beginning to develop as early as 2-3 PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 On 7/16/2019 at 6:33 PM, weatherwiz said: I was with Kevin once near his house and he showed me the elevation on his phone...it wasn't too terribly far from 1,000. Expand Yeah...he's only 40-50ft under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 On 7/16/2019 at 6:34 PM, dendrite said: Yeah...he's only 40-50ft under. Expand I could have swore his thing said like 980'....and his house was a bit higher up than where he picked me up. He was picking me up where Electric Blue is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 On 7/16/2019 at 6:33 PM, weatherwiz said: I was with Kevin once near his house and he showed me the elevation on his phone...it wasn't too terribly far from 1,000. Expand So 955' then, Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 On 7/16/2019 at 6:36 PM, weatherwiz said: I could have swore his thing said like 980'....and his house was a bit higher up than where he picked me up. He was picking me up where Electric Blue is Expand Were you two playing on his roof peak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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